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Sandbagger	Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 17 2009, 10:00 PM EDT Heavy subject. Last summer my best friends gave birth to thier second child, an adorable little girl. We all love her, and her older brother to pieces. What bothers me is how the apocolypse would effect them, both physically and mentally. Because I'm still single, and have no one depending on me, I feel I can take care of myself rather well, but my friends, both from upper- class, professional families, don't have a larger understanding of the dangers of the world,either Real or Zombified. I have tried to impart some of the more practicle aspects of preparedness on them, and they have taken the lessons to heart. Still, it scares me as to how the future could deteoriate, and they will not be able to cope as well as others. As to having babies in the post-Zombie world. Humans will eventually begin to procreate, if not for the practical reason, but due to simple emotional need. Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
timberrattler	1. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 18 2009, 4:29 AM EDT As a father of two a zombie apocolypse is not a fantasy but my worst nightmare. Your outlook on life changes in the delivery room the moment your child is born. My Grandmother told me you never truly know fear until you've had your first child. As soon as my daughter was born I relized she was right. I always worry for my kids safety. The stress of raising a child in our world is hard to begin with. Doing it in a post z-apocolypse would be more than some could take. Getting out and making a run to Wal-Mart at two in the morning to pick up medicine for an ear infection can be rough. Doing it with thousands of zombies between you and a well guarded pharmacy would be an impossibility. You'd find out who your friends were if you were holed up in a fortress with a colicy baby who wouldn't stop crying too. I'd find a spot in my BOB for condoms and save the re-populating the world thing for if and when you find a true place of safety. Post reply 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
eman1997	2. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 18 2009, 7:54 AM EDT "As a father of two a zombie apocolypse is not a fantasy but my worst nightmare. Your outlook on life changes in the delivery room the moment your child is born. My Grandmother told me you never truly know fear until you've had your first child. As soon as my daughter was born I relized she was right. I always worry for my kids safety. The stress of raising a child in our world is hard to begin with. Doing it in a post z-apocolypse would be more than some could take. Getting out and making a run to Wal-Mart at two in the morning to pick up medicine for an ear infection can be rough. Doing it with thousands of zombies between you and a well guarded pharmacy would be an impossibility. You'd find out who your friends were if you were holed up in a fortress with a colicy baby who wouldn't stop crying too. I'd find a spot in my BOB for condoms and save the re-populating the world thing for if and when you find a true place of safety. " youre completely right. if you were on the move they would slow you down. they might eat all the rations, cry,(which will alert zombies in the surrounding area about you.) im not saying they are bad, but, why do you think spys dont use them apart from the movies? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sandbagger	3. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 18 2009, 12:37 PM EDT "As a father of two a zombie apocolypse is not a fantasy but my worst nightmare. Your outlook on life changes in the delivery room the moment your child is born. My Grandmother told me you never truly know fear until you've had your first child. As soon as my daughter was born I relized she was right. I always worry for my kids safety. The stress of raising a child in our world is hard to begin with. Doing it in a post z-apocolypse would be more than some could take. Getting out and making a run to Wal-Mart at two in the morning to pick up medicine for an ear infection can be rough. Doing it with thousands of zombies between you and a well guarded pharmacy would be an impossibility. You'd find out who your friends were if you were holed up in a fortress with a colicy baby who wouldn't stop crying too. I'd find a spot in my BOB for condoms and save the re-populating the world thing for if and when you find a true place of safety. " I hear you Bro. If you just watch the news, you'll begin asking yourself "how can you take care of your babies if everything breaks down". Just the fluxuating economy alone sends shivers down the spine. I know that if something really Bad does happen, if my friends dont make a bee line to my place in the country, I'll come looking for them. To some of those Rambo-types out there, this will sound stupid and suicidal. But my friends are the most important people in my life, and I feel it's an obligation to help them and their chidren survive the future calamity.I'll stop here, I'm getting too emotional right now. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
MajorDamage	4. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 18 2009, 11:33 PM EDT Let's all remember or better yet, take a glance at a page of our shared human history: nomadic bands had to move about (with kids in tow) in hunt 'n gather mode with up-teen amounts of dangers to face on a daily basis. That includes all of the predatory animals that are hard-wired (to this day) in taking out young prey. In order to preserve the next generation, EVERYONE had to pull their weight: the strong protected/fought/hunted, the smarter ones kept knowledge alive, and everyone else chipped in where they could. Same thing will apply. For the post Z-world purposes outlined by many on this site, it should be understood that once a band is formed, unity of effort will be paramount for ALL to survive. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
timberrattler	5. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 19 2009, 7:03 AM EDT "Let's all remember or better yet, take a glance at a page of our shared human history: nomadic bands had to move about (with kids in tow) in hunt 'n gather mode with up-teen amounts of dangers to face on a daily basis. That includes all of the predatory animals that are hard-wired (to this day) in taking out young prey. In order to preserve the next generation, EVERYONE had to pull their weight: the strong protected/fought/hunted, the smarter ones kept knowledge alive, and everyone else chipped in where they could. Same thing will apply. For the post Z-world purposes outlined by many on this site, it should be understood that once a band is formed, unity of effort will be paramount for ALL to survive." Your totally right. If you have a good group there would be no problem in having children or even babies along. Good friends and family would find a way to make life easier for you and the infant. You'd come up with ways to work your problems out and everyone would have a hand in raising and teaching the child. Thanks for helping me get a more optomistic outlook on the subject. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DevilNuts	6. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 19 2009, 8:31 AM EDT In the wild, some of the young will not survive. As it is with any other creature that lives in the wild, so too shall it be with us. Injury, infection and disease, coupled with a lack of sufficient medicine and healthcare will bring the American family right back into the dark ages. You will start to see more families having upwards of 6,7,8,10+ children as the need for it resurfaces. Gone will be the days of 2 1/2 children, the white collar and the minivan. You will need a large, strong and healthy clan to work the fields and take up arms in your defense. Contraceptive? What's that? Straight medieval, dawg. Welcome to the jungle reeeeareeeeeeeeei Post reply Do you find this valuable?
MajorDamage	7. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 19 2009, 10:14 AM EDT "In the wild, some of the young will not survive. As it is with any other creature that lives in the wild, so too shall it be with us. Injury, infection and disease, coupled with a lack of sufficient medicine and healthcare will bring the American family right back into the dark ages. You will start to see more families having upwards of 6,7,8,10+ children as the need for it resurfaces. Gone will be the days of 2 1/2 children, the white collar and the minivan. You will need a large, strong and healthy clan to work the fields and take up arms in your defense. Contraceptive? What's that? Straight medieval, dawg. Welcome to the jungle reeeeareeeeeeeeei" Correct. I never stated that there would not be casualties. Far from it, there will be losses but they can be mitigated through balanced effort: Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
timberrattler	8. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 19 2009, 10:49 AM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 19 2009, 10:51 AM EDT Unless my wife looks the other way and lets me take on a concubine more kids is out of the question for us. She had to have a C-section when she delivered both our kids and without fertility drugs we wouldn't have been able to have them. A pregnancy in this kind of a situation without modern medical equiptment would be a death sentence for her and the baby if we even managed to conceive. Pick yourself a big woman with child bearing hips (I like big butts and I cannot lie...) if you want the Brady Bunch. It would be the greatest excuse ever for cheating too, "But honey I have to help repopulate the world". Whap! Pow! Bang! I'll leave the big families to you younger guys and help out if I can with the raising of them. DN brought up a good point too, go at it like drunk monkeys if you want our species to survive. Forget the condoms I mentioned earlier. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Littlejon126	9. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 19 2009, 11:33 AM EDT Often in different cultures in history, there were special ceremonies or rituals for child birth to ensure that babies were born during certain times of the year. In northern european cultures its believed that births typically took place in winter because more people would be able to be present (off fields/hunting) to help out with the birth. In hot climates, the opposite (but same philosophy) was true, they tried to have babies born in summer as people were trying to stay out of the sun. Shaman were the first doctors, so they were likely present (along with elders) to help with births. In a post zombie world, there should be one or two "Birth specialists" in a given survival group, preferably those with more medical training! I second the big butts thing - healthier shaped women tend to survive childbirth. Look at examples of Greek/Roman women statues, these women were stacked! They were considered beautiful (despite current norms) because of their "motherly attributes." You will be more successful with women built like this. Also, black women are much more likely to have twins and triplets. That could be handy, a two for one or three for one deal! The woman usually doesn't survive that without a hospital though. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sandbagger	10. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 20 2009, 7:55 PM EDT "Let's all remember or better yet, take a glance at a page of our shared human history: nomadic bands had to move about (with kids in tow) in hunt 'n gather mode with up-teen amounts of dangers to face on a daily basis. That includes all of the predatory animals that are hard-wired (to this day) in taking out young prey. In order to preserve the next generation, EVERYONE had to pull their weight: the strong protected/fought/hunted, the smarter ones kept knowledge alive, and everyone else chipped in where they could. Same thing will apply. For the post Z-world purposes outlined by many on this site, it should be understood that once a band is formed, unity of effort will be paramount for ALL to survive." And that is why I will do whatever I can to get my friends to safety. Others who are like minded will seek out such communities, with everyone willing to do their part to preserve and protect the human race. Granted there will be prediators, both human and non-human. This is where the idea of community begins. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
inu-dude25	11. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 20 2009, 8:12 PM EDT "You will start to see more families having upwards of 6,7,8,10+ children as the need for it resurfaces. Gone will be the days of 2 1/2 children, the white collar and the minivan. You will need a large, strong and healthy clan to work the fields and take up arms in your defense. Contraceptive? What's that? Straight medieval, dawg. Welcome to the jungle reeeeareeeeeeeeei" Finally, at long last the dreaded minivan will no longer stalk the earth, and the left lane. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Sandbagger	12. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 21 2009, 9:46 PM EDT "Finally, at long last the dreaded minivan will no longer stalk the earth, and the left lane." Watch it, my friends drive a mini-van, as well as a bio-diesel VW Bug. Both could prove useful in a long-range escape. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
inu-dude25	13. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 21 2009, 9:51 PM EDT No, just no. Vans are boring, dull, unexciting, drab, gray, neutral, life-sucking vehicles that are driven by soccer moms and dads that have given up on having a sex life and for that matter fun. They're slow, bad to drive, and ninety-nine percent of them are leaning towards the ugly side. And they all drive in the left lane going five miles under the speed limit. A bio-diesel Bug is pretty cool though, in my engines class we're going to be making an old diesel Suburban run on it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
3DayAsylum	14. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 21 2009, 9:55 PM EDT So, if I said I lived in my van, as a van dweller, I would be a soccer dad who gave up on sex and fun. www.cheaprvliving.com Go inu, make more stereotypes each day. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
inu-dude25	15. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 21 2009, 10:04 PM EDT You have to admit, how often would you get laid living in a van? And MOST vans hog up the left lane and all of the really good backroads when all you want to do is go cruising along, and you get the fun of sitting behind a Caravan or Sienna for half an hour. Not a stereotype, its a war crime against car lovers. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	16. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 21 2009, 10:50 PM EDT "You have to admit, how often would you get laid living in a van? And MOST vans hog up the left lane and all of the really good backroads when all you want to do is go cruising along, and you get the fun of sitting behind a Caravan or Sienna for half an hour. Not a stereotype, its a war crime against car lovers." I don't know where you live but where I live they are the ones cruising along about ninety. Late for soccer practice and driving like a maniac to get there. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
inu-dude25	17. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 21 2009, 11:01 PM EDT They only drive fast when you're in front of them, if you're behind them, they drive like ninety year olds. It's like a hellish theory of relativity. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
livingdeadman	18. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 21 2009, 11:04 PM EDT We have a van. Strangely enough we also have a sex life that's pretty darn good. We removed the back seat so we can carry more cargo. It is a little on the ugly side since it's beat up and bent up. I've never tried the five MPH under the speed limit thing as my four speeding tickets will attest to. I've never watched a soccer game for more than thirty seconds. The back of our van currently contains a half dozen fishing poles and a couple of tackle boxes. I think there is still a sleeping bag back there as well. When the day comes that I finally get rid of it I'll likely buy another van. Unlike many people I tend to buy things that are actually useful instead of 'sporty'. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
3DayAsylum	19. RE: Pox-Eclipse Babies Apr 21 2009, 11:04 PM EDT The only reason that I live in my van is because I'm in college. And I can't afford dorm fees Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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