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z_warrior
lowes/home depot
Apr 26 2009, 7:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2009, 7:20 PM EDT
although lacking immediate food, lowes/home depot can provide excelent fortresses on two conditions. first that you get there before the raiders and second that you construct a garden immediately. My personal idea would be to create your HQ off of the ground (but not on the roof because of the garden). what i would do is connect the aisles together to create a raised platform high enough to not be reachable on foot, and sturdy enough not to be knocked over. thats just my thoughts though. feel free to reply 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
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EdOfTheDead
EdOfTheDead
1. RE: lowes/home depot
Apr 26 2009, 7:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2009, 7:24 PM EDT
That is a very crafty idea. Is there going to be Miracle Grow there orrr do you have to bring your own? Do you find this valuable?    
inu-dude25
inu-dude25
2. RE: lowes/home depot
Apr 26 2009, 8:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2009, 8:00 PM EDT
It could work, but it would take a lot of work. So if you had a group, I'd say go for it.

Just make sure it's a Lowe's, because Home Depot will be out of everything you need to set this thing up, though they'll have an excess of all the shit that is absolutely useless to you surviving. Do you find this valuable?    
DevilNuts
DevilNuts
3. RE: lowes/home depot
Apr 26 2009, 8:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2009, 8:04 PM EDT
"...lowes/home depot can provide excelent fortresses on two conditions. first that you get there before the raiders..."
This is impossible, because you are the raider. Which means you show up at the same time. WHOA Do you find this valuable?    
livingdeadman
livingdeadman
4. RE: lowes/home depot
Apr 26 2009, 8:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2009, 8:05 PM EDT
Can the roof hold the weight of many tons of soil? Ad a few extra tons to that weight when it rains. Do you find this valuable?    
inu-dude25
inu-dude25
5. RE: lowes/home depot
Apr 26 2009, 8:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 26 2009, 8:32 PM EDT
"This is impossible, because you are the raider. Which means you show up at the same time. WHOA"
Whoa, trippy, man. :P Do you find this valuable?    

z_warrior
6. RE: lowes/home depot
Apr 28 2009, 8:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 28 2009, 8:36 AM EDT
"This is impossible, because you are the raider. Which means you show up at the same time. WHOA"
I define raider as someone who attacks a location with the inent of taking all possible resources and then moving on shortly after. I would not fit into my definition of a raider because instead of a short scavaging trip, i would use the location as my fortress. you can't be a raider until you leave. Do you find this valuable?    
WickedEternity
WickedEternity
7. RE: lowes/home depot
Apr 28 2009, 9:15 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 28 2009, 9:15 AM EDT
Think about conditions around the area. How many HD or Lowes are sorrounded by a concrete jungle? All of them are. Some may acclaim that this just makes for a wider shooting gallery, I would contend that this would be a "rally point" for the undead. As others have said, there is no perfect hold-out-point. I would suggest double-laid chicken wire with reinforcment poles sunk at least 4 feet into the ground at 3 meter intervals for optimal zombie protection. If possible, road flares sunk into the ground or incindary rounds should work for carving out a good groundworks. The availability of seed-stock, water retention barrels and plethora of defensive tools make your option of HD as fortress-royal an exelent idea. My only question is once you fortify and sustain somthing of this magnitude, how do you keep the huddling masses from sinking the ship? Such a question should remind us all that the greatest danger from a zombie outbreak is not necesserly the virus that causes the symptoms, but the anarchy that propigates because of it. Do you find this valuable?    

z_warrior
8. RE: lowes/home depot
Jun 24 2009, 10:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 24 2009, 10:21 PM EDT
well once the fortress is secured, the only way in would be roof access which means the zeds form a ramp made of bodies to get up there. I hope to god i would check the perimiter often enough to keep that from happening, but if not then yes i concede to the fact that i would have one hell of a fight on my hands. zeds are rather dumb however, and hopefully my group and i can out think them. But I wouldn't kill them all. I would make my enemy my ally and use them as another layer of defense. to even get to my fortress you would have to kill all of the zombies around the building. this would deplete ammo and stamina of raiders while also dividing their efforts, some attacking me and some defending their backs from zeds.

If they reach the fortress, all (at least all that i've seen) have a stone/concrete exterior which will help with incindiary attacks. another idea i have is to have a wall on the perimiter of the roofthat is hollowed out with slits facing the outside. This creates a "dark room" effect in which my snipers can fire out without giving away their position and giving them the ability to move without being seen. add to that booby traps and the scores of undead between them and me; and the defenses are pretty good. Do you find this valuable?    
inu-dude25
inu-dude25
9. RE: lowes/home depot
Jun 25 2009, 1:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 25 2009, 1:42 AM EDT
It's the only way in until they break through one of the barricades. And then you find that the barricades that kept them out will also keep you in. Do you find this valuable?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
10. RE: lowes/home depot
Jun 25 2009, 3:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 25 2009, 3:08 AM EDT
In a parking lot by my house, there's a WalMart and a Lowes. They could be sister forts. Yay. Do you find this valuable?    

z_warrior
11. RE: lowes/home depot
Jul 2 2009, 5:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2009, 5:17 AM EDT
"It's the only way in until they break through one of the barricades. And then you find that the barricades that kept them out will also keep you in."
no. as isaid in my original post, everything would be built off the ground and with roof access. if they get in the store on ground level, we simply get off the ground, if they start to climb up there we go to the roof. and from there we go back down to ground level. there is always another move if you plan ahead. Do you find this valuable?    

gibgab555
12. RE: lowes/home depot
Jul 2 2009, 8:46 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2009, 8:46 AM EDT
"although lacking immediate food, lowes/home depot can provide excelent fortresses on two conditions. first that you get there before the raiders and second that you construct a garden immediately. My personal idea would be to create your HQ off of the ground (but not on the roof because of the garden). what i would do is connect the aisles together to create a raised platform high enough to not be reachable on foot, and sturdy enough not to be knocked over. thats just my thoughts though. feel free to reply"
that is a great idea! in the home building center you will have all the material required to brick up a building that big. then it is just a matter of how easily you can obtain enough fertilizer, seeds, & water to build a veggie patch. i suggest raiding the flower stores. they should have it. than you should raid local grocery stores for tinned food & 2 minute noodles, just in case the veggie patch doesn't work.( if it doesn't work, i suggest you go somewhere else.) Do you find this valuable?    

z_warrior
13. RE: lowes/home depot
Jul 2 2009, 2:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 2 2009, 2:59 PM EDT
Idk about the rest of the country, but all of the lowes/HD around me have a fairly large garden center inside. That means plenty of soil and seeds. I will have to raid nearby stores to get enough food to last until harvest, but once setup i think it would be hard to beat. Do you find this valuable?    
BigD93
BigD93
14. RE: lowes/home depot
Aug 10 2010, 10:55 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 10 2010, 10:55 PM EDT
yah this plan does seem to be more of a long term plan but then theirs also tending to the garden then making sure to and new fertilizerr to it ever spring, and wasting galons of valuable water that a home improvement store wouldn't have unless they have well water Do you find this valuable?    
brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
15. RE: lowes/home depot
Aug 10 2010, 11:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 10 2010, 11:14 PM EDT
I'm gonna comment on this simply because I spent 3 years working at the hell-hole that is home depot.

This plan is fairly viable, depending on the layout of the particular store. Most stores only have three major entrances and they would be simple enough to barricade. However the roof is not remotely strong enough to hold up a flower garden, and the back entrances would not stand up to a determined raiding party.

your main problems

1. Fortification against raiders
2. lack of food supplies
3. lack of water
4. lack of power.

Overcome those and it would be possible. Do you find this valuable?