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Shawnzx	An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 8:51 PM EDT Alot of people on this site believe the bicycle to be the miracle machine for moving through and infested area. It is silent, needs no fuel, and is pretty fast. Although these things seem to be good, they are also a terrible downside. A bicycle offers no protection against anythibng. that includes bugs, water, bullets, falling debris, zombies, tempurature, and wind. Also, If you are in a car, you can sleep knowing that you are safe. If yoou have a Bicycle, You woud have to park in an area that is also acessable to zombies. Also, a bicycle is more prone to damage. I have had bike tires popped with stickers. Nails barbed wire, thorns, and many other obstacles would destroy the tires. And thenyu have a heavy piece of metal that you must carry with you. Whoever has anything important for or against the bike should say it here. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: Retarded spineless pansy
inu-dude25	1. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 9:15 PM EDT It depends on the bike. A good hybrid (shocks on the front, rear is hard-tail) would be good, an example would be the Trek 4500. And they come with Bontrager tires, which are extremely hard to puncture, and they work great. You could just carry a spare tube with you and you could keep a small pony bottle of compressed air, but for anything more than scouting or exercise, a bike is pretty limited in a zombie infested world. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
womule2005	2. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 9:16 PM EDT "Alot of people on this site believe the bicycle to be the miracle machine for moving through and infested area. It is silent, needs no fuel, and is pretty fast. Although these things seem to be good, they are also a terrible downside. A bicycle offers no protection against anythibng. that includes bugs, water, bullets, falling debris, zombies, tempurature, and wind. Also, If you are in a car, you can sleep knowing that you are safe. If yoou have a Bicycle, You woud have to park in an area that is also acessable to zombies. Also, a bicycle is more prone to damage. I have had bike tires popped with stickers. Nails barbed wire, thorns, and many other obstacles would destroy the tires. And thenyu have a heavy piece of metal that you must carry with you. Whoever has anything important for or against the bike should say it here." not to mention that you get tired from riding one. and where are you going to carry the stuff you just raided? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Shawnzx	3. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 9:17 PM EDT "It depends on the bike. A good hybrid (shocks on the front, rear is hard-tail) would be good, an example would be the Trek 4500. And they come with Bontrager tires, which are extremely hard to puncture, and they work great. You could just carry a spare tube with you and you could keep a small pony bottle of compressed air, but for anything more than scouting or exercise, a bike is pretty limited in a zombie infested world." My bike is a trek 3000 Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Shawnzx	4. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 9:18 PM EDT "not to mention that you get tired from riding one. and where are you going to carry the stuff you just raided?" On deh moon! Post reply 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
inu-dude25	5. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 9:27 PM EDT "not to mention that you get tired from riding one. and where are you going to carry the stuff you just raided?" And who is going to use one for raiding? I mean, I think we need to start defining uses for vehicles post Z-Day. Obviously you wouldn't go raiding on your little sister's bike, and you wouldn't take an Abrams for scouting. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Dr.Miner	6. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 9:30 PM EDT " If you are in a car, you can sleep knowing that you are safe. " Elaborate. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
inu-dude25	7. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 9:33 PM EDT He means that a car offers you some protection, whereas a bike gives you none. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Shawnzx	8. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 9:43 PM EDT "Elaborate." If you are in a car, THen you have at least some protection against zombies. the banging on the window will alert you and allow you to get the hell out of there. with a bike, it would have been too late. also, with a car, wind, tempurature, and rain wouldn't be an issue. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
inu-dude25	9. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 9:46 PM EDT Temperature can be a problem at a certain point if you aren't running the car. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Littlejon126	10. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 11:32 PM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 29 2009, 11:34 PM EDT The primary advantage of a bicycle is that it doesn't rely on fuel, which would run out quickly after z-day as the stuff is delivered in. Remember, zombies are slow - outrunning them is not really a difficult task even on foot. However, a bicycle makes you much faster, even if you're going at a very slow pace. With a 10 speed, in your highest gear range you can travel it speeds that are difficult for an Olympic-level sprinter to match while consuming much less energy, which means it is sustainable. You can carry nearly as much stuff on a bike as you can walking. My Schwinn has a "saddle bag" set-up from when my father used to ride it back and forth on the base in Corpus Christi, and each side of the saddle bag is nearly the size of a large back pack. You can also ride a bike with a backpack on - I did it a lot when I was a kid. Riding hard on a bike with gear is easier than running with a backpack on because on a bike, there's less up and down motion (impact) so your backpack doesn't bounce up and down. Most commuter-class bikes have a special rail on the back so that saddle bags can be mounted. Sure, you can carry more in even a small car, but that small car requires fuel. Even if you were to find that oasis of gasoline, it won't last - gas goes bad after about 3 months - the alcohol starts to evaporate out. A car is only a short term means of transportation post Z-day. Bikes come in any variety of quality - I suggest the Schwinn World GS, which is going to be the next bike that I purchase after I join the Army. They're relatively decently priced and Schwinn bikes are great for getting around on. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Littlejon126	11. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 11:33 PM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 29 2009, 11:52 PM EDT Is a bike necessary - well, no. But it beats the hell out of walking. Schwinn also has a line of electrically assisted bikes that can be plugged in and charged, which (as advertised) provides 40 miles of assisted power on the pedals. They're not cheap - about $2K a bike, but if you're a hardcore bicyclist it might be something to consider. Noise? Almost non-existent with a well lubed bicycle - cars are audible for 200-300 yards, more so if they've got loud or aging exhaust. Maintenance? Tires is primary priority but punctures can be field-expedient repaired with duct tape. Needs gear oil, but you can use WD-40, gun oil or old motor oil to lube the chain. Sure, a car might provide more protection in the short term but you don't need it with a bike - put on a leather jacket, jeans and a jacket and you should be protected from most zombies. The only time a zombie would touch you is if you drive your bike into the center of a large group of them - and that means that you're a 'tard and you deserve to be touched by zombies. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
John_234	12. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 11:41 PM EDT "Is a bike necessary - well, no. But it beats the hell out of walking. Schwinn also has a line of electrically assisted bikes that can be plugged in and charged, which (as advertised) provides 40 miles of assisted power on the pedals. They're not cheap - about $2K a bike, but if you're a hardcore bicyclist it might be something to consider." Do they have any models that you can charge by running manually? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
WickedEternity	13. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 11:44 PM EDT The bike is definatly a necessity. I think that the topic has been covered by other authors...there is no perfect mode of transpotation in the event of a large zombie, or outbreak of any kind. Ideally, the resourceful and wealthy person would have a fully fueled RV, with a land rover (fully fueled) in tow, in addtion to 2 motor cross bikes as well as a off road and GT hybrid bycycle just in case. My point is no, one can be over prepared; I THINK WE HAVE ALL BEEN OVER THIS! As for me, yes, Ill take my offroad bike as a back-up any day considering is compactabiliy and overall rough physique. Are there anymore topics we need too go over? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Littlejon126	14. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 11:53 PM EDT "Do they have any models that you can charge by running manually?" I think so - there's a cable attached to the front wheel that may serve to power the lithium battery - but it might also be for the headlight. I think it'd be pretty easy to rig something up - splice some wiring to a charging adapter to that front cable and pedal like hell! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Littlejon126	15. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 29 2009, 11:58 PM EDT Let me get back to the obvious downsides of a car or truck as well... How many people here do their own oil changes? How long does it take you, counting gathering the supplies/tools needed? How about spark plugs, brakes, gas tank leaks, radiator servicing, fuel line replacement... injectors? Tires. Do you know how hard it is to mount a new tire to a rim? It's damn near impossible by hand - I know a lot about vehicle maintenance, and I've installed nitrous oxide kits and superchargers before - but putting rubber on rim is a PAIN IN THE ASS. There's a special machine that does this easily and correctly. Honestly, it would be easier to raid and steal whole rims/tires off other comparable vehicles. Talk about risky in a zombie filled world? Cars are a temporary thing - we all know this. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
timberrattler	16. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 30 2009, 6:08 AM EDT A bicycle would be a necesity in an urban enviroment. When the SHTF there are going to be abandoned cars everywhere locking up roads. Vehicles are going to be short term, there is no other way to see it in my eyes. You can keep them going for a year tops even with fuel stabilizer. If anyone has proof that you can use gasoline for longer than 12 months let me see the proof and I'll change my opinion. Bikes are a must have for people in an urban enviroment. I live in a rural setting and my horses are what I'll count on when the gasoline goes bad or runs out. Horses have thier downside too but when my vehicles are worthless they might be the difference between life and death. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
UndeadHunter	17. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 30 2009, 8:57 AM EDT Timber Rattler is correct, although the bicycle is not a miracle-mode of transport it may be the only way to travel across certain types of terrain. These include: 1. Gridlocked roads/streets, where cars have been abandoned following the panic of a class 4 outbreak (or halted by government check-points/quarantines) 2. Narrow alleys or pedestrian areas 3. Severly rough terrain (a suitable mountain-bike would be required for this) Of course, there are motorized vehicles which exist to cope with the 3 scenarios above. However, motorcycles, scooters, ATVs, cars, buses and trucks all run on a dwindling supply of gasoline, and even the most modern vehicles still make a large amount of noise when compared to the near-silent bicycle. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
inu-dude25	18. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 30 2009, 9:19 AM EDT "Let me get back to the obvious downsides of a car or truck as well... How many people here do their own oil changes? How long does it take you, counting gathering the supplies/tools needed? How about spark plugs, brakes, gas tank leaks, radiator servicing, fuel line replacement... injectors? Tires. Do you know how hard it is to mount a new tire to a rim? It's damn near impossible by hand - I know a lot about vehicle maintenance, and I've installed nitrous oxide kits and superchargers before - but putting rubber on rim is a PAIN IN THE ASS. There's a special machine that does this easily and correctly. Honestly, it would be easier to raid and steal whole rims/tires off other comparable vehicles. Talk about risky in a zombie filled world? Cars are a temporary thing - we all know this." Ugh, an oil change takes about fifteen minutes start to finish. Spark plugs aren't thta hard either, and in new cars they never go bad. Seriously, the car will be long gone before most new spark plugs are worn out. Brake pads aren't a major job if you a bit of space to work in, and again, radiators,fuel lines, and injectors are far more reliable than in the past. While changing a radiator would be necessary info if you have an older Ford Econoline van, most new cars aren't going to need one unless it's punctured by something hitting the front end. And if you get the machine for it, mounting a tire doesn't take that long. And you can do it by manually, though it is far more work. And in a zombie filled world, how many of us will even outlast cars? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Littlejon126	19. RE: An Issue With The Bicycle Apr 30 2009, 6:19 PM EDT I'm aware of this - but apparently you didn't read it - And collect the tools and supplies necessary. Joe the 15 year old doesn't even know what tools he needs to do the oil change.... Drain plug means nothing to him, much less the little tricks to the change that make it a lot easier next time, like lubing the rubber gasket. The point is that you and I know how to do these things - most of the members here do not. Think back to your first oil change - now put zombies in it. Oh, and no help from someone else... Yeah - does climbing up under that jacked-up hoopty sound like a good idea? Please read my post again, word for word. You seem to have missed the key points I was making - though I agree with you, think average member here - 15 with no driver's license and little/no repair experience or tools. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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