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Xevelous
Xevelous
Mkay
May 22 2009, 1:46 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 1:46 PM EDT
The name might need work, but I can't really think of anything to cover that.

But anyway, a good martial art that I practice regularly would be judo. Now, it probably sounds odd to start promoting a martial art which's name literally translates out to 'the gentle way' for a time a violent as Z-day, but the concept of the art has many practical uses in the event of an attack

Here's the lowdown.

Standing sparring: Most of the moves in Judo involve throwing someone down as quickly, as hard , and ans efficiently as possible. There is no punching involved, and tripping is essential. Most of the time if you're going to be in hand to hand combat with a zombie you are trying to get farther away so that you may use your gun or wahtever weapon you are too close for. Not to harm, but as an effecient way to lead to the initial punsihment. Not to mention, instead of killing the zombie, you have thrown it at least five feet away from you, and have time to run. Of course, there are some throws that are practical suicide in a zombie fight, such as http://judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/ogoshi.htm but if you take a different move i nthe same direction and you can grab the zombies arms this move is perfect for when you get knocked down from the front as long as you are at least moderately fast http://judoinfo.com/images/animations/blue/tomoenage.htm. Granted, standing judo has some good uses, but most of the moves involve pulling the enemy to you in order to throw. So great care must be exersized. and as I said before, some of them are pure suicide. It's a matter of elimination and efficiency.
Another martial art that is helpful is boxing. This is a surprising effecint way to emmaciate a zombie. Put on a metal cuff and punch a zombie in the jaw. ANs since he's probably not a trained boxer with the knowledge of pulling his head back or side to side, he's likely to take all the force
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
1. RE: Mkay
May 22 2009, 1:51 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 2:24 PM EDT
Absolutely, for trips, throws, judo is the first thought. Any moves in particular that you think would be particularly helpful?

Boxing, for breaking the jaw, would not be my first choice, simply because you run the risk of breaking the bones in your hand. An elbow, knee or foot strike would be safer from a damage limitation standpoint, even if they are shorter range than a punch.
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Xevelous
Xevelous
2. RE: Mkay
May 22 2009, 2:58 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 2:58 PM EDT
good point on the broken hand. so, are we saying then taht attemtping to damage a zombie through h2h combat without weaponry is suicide, then? so what if we colaberated weaponry with a sort of crouching technique. When the zombie tries to jump on us, we're already low enough to throw them off and run. if you're in a mass of zombies, we might be able to take a few tips from football and parkor (probably spelled that wrong) mix the two and you can have rolling and shoving techniques for getting out of a zombie hoarde sucessfully. As for hand to hand weaponry, some design might be a good idea for later development. Do you find this valuable?    
Xevelous
Xevelous
3. RE: Mkay
May 22 2009, 3:17 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 3:17 PM EDT
also, I made an interesting observation of human anatomy before, the abdomen in responsible for much of the trunk movement, which seems to be a lot of zombie movement relation. here's a quote form another website "The rectus abdominis muscle is the most superficial of the 6 abdominal muscles. It extends from the front of the ribs to the front of the pelvis at the pubis symphysis. Its main job is to flex the spine forward." if you cut this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/95/Rectus_abdominis.png/250px-Rectus_abdominis.png, the zombie cannot lunge forward. Voila, useless zombie soldier. Do you find this valuable?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
4. RE: Mkay
May 22 2009, 4:09 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 4:10 PM EDT
H2H is going to be statistically the worst way to fight zombies, other than hummus.

But we can increase the chances of success by looking at the best holds, throws, escapes and attacks on offer. Maybe designing new ones. I would say start out completely unarmed, and develop those first. Then we can look at adding in common weapons, such as knives, sticks, bars, etc.

I'm not looking to make some kind of Anti-zombie ninja, with an array of specialist tools. But I would say that yes, taking from any source is perfectly acceptable, and in keeping with the spirit of this page and thread. Football for example, can offer things as simple but effective as the Stiff Arm. A lot of that is technique on centre of gravity, balance and footwork.
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DevilNuts
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5. RE: Mkay
May 22 2009, 4:22 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 4:22 PM EDT
I've had alot of success with hummus PA, dunno what you're talking about.

Judo is good to go in my opinion. It is simple, effective, and dumps the Z to the ground, providing you a few needed seconds to get away.
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PedroAsani
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6. RE: Mkay
May 22 2009, 4:35 PM EDT | Post edited: May 22 2009, 4:35 PM EDT
See, for a normal human attacker, the loss of balance and the disorientation would be enough to phase them. I'm not so sure for a zombie. I think that they would continue to try and bite even as they are thrown. How successful they are would depend on the throw, and that's the point I yield to anyone with an extensive knowledge of judo throws. Do you find this valuable?