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spiritbx
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Jun 7 2009, 7:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 7 2009, 7:22 PM EDT
the problem with the claymore is that, not only is it rare( you dont see many people with those anymore lol) but they are extremely heavy, in any type of situation, claymore are good for very strong people, or else you will have trouble even lifting it.

better start lifting those weights lol
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
1. RE: heavy
Jun 7 2009, 7:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 7 2009, 7:26 PM EDT
Scottish soldiers were monsters. They trained by throwing trees and giant rocks around. Do you find this valuable?    
ShinerBock
ShinerBock
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Jun 7 2009, 8:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 7 2009, 8:43 PM EDT
MEASUREMENTS: Blade length: 41“ Handle length: 14” Overall length: 59 3/4“ Weight: 4lb 14oz Thickness: .220

while, these are the measurements for a replica it is supposed to be a fully functional properly balanced weapon, and all the number i have heard for the real things are between 5-5.5 lbs.

source: http://www.replicaweaponry.com/sh2060.html
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TheUndivine
3. RE: heavy
Jun 17 2009, 6:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 17 2009, 6:27 PM EDT
I collect swords as a hobby. A battle ready scottish claymore is actually not that bad to handle. I also own an odochi sword which is larger than a standard claymore and I can swing it without much strain. Swinging any weapon for an extended period of time may get tiring to someone that hasn't had proper training or that isn't in decent shape. However, I would definitely pick a claymore over something like a sledgehammer (random example) since the hammer's weight is primarily located at the end opposite to where you're handling it. A claymore's weight is located slightly more in the handle than in the blade making for quicker swinging than a sledgehammer. And as mentioned by ShinerBock, the sword all together weights about 5lbs or so. If you can't lift it you have greater problems to worry about. Do you find this valuable?    
spamanninen
spamanninen
4. RE: heavy
Jun 17 2009, 6:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 17 2009, 6:30 PM EDT
i made a post in peasent weapons that i think would relate to this... spike has a show called "the deadliest warrior". most of the weapons they test are melee weapons. its some usefull info i think Do you find this valuable?    
spamanninen
spamanninen
5. RE: heavy
Jun 17 2009, 6:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 17 2009, 6:35 PM EDT
personally i dont now how "battle ready", battle ready swords and weapons really are. i dont think i'd wait till last minute to get one and find out. i think i'll stick with a crowbar. it will easily crush a skull and you can use it to break into houses and cars to find supplies Do you find this valuable?    

TheUndivine
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Jun 17 2009, 7:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 17 2009, 7:05 PM EDT
Most truly 'battle ready' swords you get are full tang, meaning the blade and handle are one solid piece of steel (usually 440). They're pretty durable, but no sword, or any melee weapon for that matter, will last forever. Also, most crowbars are kind of heavy for being so small. Half-life makes them seem like the weigh nothing at all. :-P Do you find this valuable?    
spamanninen
spamanninen
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Jun 17 2009, 7:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 17 2009, 7:09 PM EDT
oh you got me wrong... i dont play video games... well i play wii sports with my kids but thats it.... and i would never base one of my decisions on a video game anyway.... i use a crowbar pretty often at work and i thought "hey i could kill a zombie with this" Do you find this valuable?    

TheUndivine
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Jun 17 2009, 11:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 17 2009, 11:59 PM EDT
I suppose it all depends on the person and the crowbar. They're kind of uncomfortable for me. And some stuff that's even neater can be found here.
http://www.botachtactical.com/hooligantools.html
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Akerris
Akerris
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Jun 18 2009, 7:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Jun 18 2009, 7:44 AM EDT
"the problem with the claymore is that, not only is it rare( you dont see many people with those anymore lol) but they are extremely heavy, in any type of situation, claymore are good for very strong people, or else you will have trouble even lifting it.

better start lifting those weights lol"
Medieval Claymores were shock weapons used to break light infantry, dismount armored horsemen, shatter pikes, and generally scare some noobs to death. Most purely two handed swords were phased out because metal was expensive, and there were more tactically efficient weapons, like halberds which could be made for less and perform the same functions listed above.
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spiritbx
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Jun 19 2009, 6:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 19 2009, 6:58 PM EDT
"Medieval Claymores were shock weapons used to break light infantry, dismount armored horsemen, shatter pikes, and generally scare some noobs to death. Most purely two handed swords were phased out because metal was expensive, and there were more tactically efficient weapons, like halberds which could be made for less and perform the same functions listed above."
well what i mean isnt that a person couldnt use a claymoar, its that it was more inconveniant for most people, if you are trained with it and know how to use it fairly well the weight shouldnt be a problem, but lets say a 16 year old kid, normal strenght and all found one somewhere(or something lol) using it would be more of a danger than anything, to others and himself. the best weapon would proly be something sturdy that isnt too heavy and can easily be repaired or replaced. if you get a guy that has a hobby of training with swords, he will be very good with it, but someone holding one for the first time(like me) would swing it like harry potter in his second movie(like a noob swinging it with his eyes closed lol)
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