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Zombie_bob |
A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:00 PM EDT
We all know the theory of once bitten we become infected and eventually die, thus becoming a zed to spread. But this argument of fast or slow is purely situational. It depends on the victim. Even if the Zombie has been dead he cant move with out blood, the blood will pump when signals emitted from the brain tell it to causing muscle contractions. So depending on the state of the Zed, the range of motion will very, if he was shot in the heart and bled, but but still turns then he will be slow mainly only neck and head movement. If, say, it was a person that was non fatally bitten (say the forearm) and then turned, the his circulation system is still intact. Giving you a fast Zombie. Now once they area Zombie they will inevitably decay. as the happens, lactic acid will build up in the muscles ensuring slower movement. but until that point there is an extreme possibility of facing a very fast Zombie. It all depends on the condition of the hosts body and the freshness of the Zed.I would add this to the Zombie 101 page in greater detail but it is locked, But I can go in great length about the Zombie anatomy on theory. If you want to know more message me with a email address and I can send what i got so far. Do you find this valuable?
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jugglaj |
1. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:06 PM EDT
this is exactly what ive been thinkingthe whole rigor stuff would slow them down and if they were only killed by infection then they would be fast until rigor sets in Do you find this valuable? |
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Zombie_bob |
2. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:12 PM EDT
exactly, regardless of the condition of mental awareness or infection to move they still need circulation so if they get the classic bite to the juggular then they wont have the blood to sufficently work the body once turned. but if it is intact you could have up to 3 days of fast zombies.
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jugglaj |
3. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:16 PM EDT
and then the occasional one that got recently changedlike a survivor or something i dont know there will be ALOT of runners at first just cuz people will try to protect themselves with arms and stuff preventing a neck bite simple plan for this hole up somewhere for like two weeks follow general shambler plans after that Do you find this valuable? |
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Zombie_bob |
4. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:21 PM EDT
generaly you want to be able to hole up with enough supplies for 3 months, after 3 months rigger mortise will take effect and those that died early will suffer enough brain decomposition that they will begin to not be able to sustain there movements and actions. plus muscle groups will also significantly deteriorate after that point sevearly reducing the risk of attack.
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jugglaj |
5. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:26 PM EDT
mehtwo weeks is a little slim but three months? im sure that most cant stock up that well i know i might be able to but its a challenge one month should suffice for enough to become simple shamblers Do you find this valuable? |
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Zombie_bob |
6. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:29 PM EDT
Newtons law will always be in effect, but its just a general rule of thumb that i look at when trying to plan.
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jugglaj |
7. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:34 PM EDT
Which law?i dont remember them well i think one was that things that are in motion remain in motion or somethin i never took actual physics Do you find this valuable? |
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Zombie_bob |
8. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:44 PM EDT
objects in motion will remain in motion until acted upon by an outside force. but what i ment to say, was "Murphies law" Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
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jugglaj |
9. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:47 PM EDT
oooooh okyeah that makes more sense but yeah one month should do it and then they are at least only shamblers so i think that unless you ran into a horde youd be relatively safe Do you find this valuable? |
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IHateEverybody |
10. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 7 2009, 11:57 PM EDT
Rigor mortus sets in a number of hours after death. So recently changed zombies will only run for a while at first. Unfortunately, rigor mortus has a tendency to go away after another twelve hours or so. I also honestly doubt a zombie that stays on the move from the moment of reanimation will, regardless of rigor mortus only be able to run for a little over a week due to the fact that muscles would deteriorate without the blood pumping oxygen to them. The decomposition process would take a varying amount of time to render a walking corpse immobile depending on where it is located.
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Zombie_bob |
11. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 8 2009, 6:49 AM EDT
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the scenarios you mention vary on a number of physical stimuli, such as temperature, and elevation. but who is to say that if a non-fatal victim is bitten and turns that there system actualy dies, as opposed to just turning in the instinctual urge, if that is a possibility it could remain a "runner" until the system its self dies and is running off of infection alone.
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jugglaj |
12. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 8 2009, 7:55 AM EDT
in otherwords they starve, creating a 28 days later scenario where they can starve, but instead of dying they just become shamblersmeh debatable at best just because of not having any information damn them z's they will keep us in the dark until they rise, and then we just go into permanent darkness Do you find this valuable? |
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13. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 8 2009, 2:44 PM EDT
Don't take death to mean death. It could be better described as a state of hibernation or a comatose state that so closely resembles death it is indescernible without specialist equipment. Granted, it doesn't roll off the tongue, but it is more accurate.Without delving into zombie physiology (for which we would need a pile of zombies), it is difficult to tell how these things will work. If we take it that the infection spreads through bites, then that needs saliva. If the infection does not kill, but induces the coma-state mentioned above, then rigor mortis does not necessarily come into play. It could simply be a condition of the infection that the motor skills are compromised. You are right that the state of the victim when he was alive will play a part in determining the speed of the zombie. Damaged legs would make them slower. I wouldn't expect a zombie-causing infection to heal a paraplegic and turn him into a marathon runner. As for bloodflow, if the infection radically alters human physiology, then it may not be necessary, and muscles would operate differently. Anaerobic respiration might not produce lactic acid. It could instead produce a byproduct that would allow continued movement, completely independent of oxygen. Each zombie type could manifest if the infection alters the physiology enough. Because of that, I would advise taking the worst (or best, depending on your viewpoint) aspects of each type and trying to counter them in your plans. So that would be a running zombie, with long infection times so it can spread across the world almost undetected, that will plague the earth forever unless it is killed by damage to the brain. Good luck, it will be needed. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Zombie_bob |
14. RE: A simple theory on zombie movment.
Jun 9 2009, 3:43 AM EDT
all are points to take into account, but the only time we will know the nature of the infection and the physiological effects is when and if it happens. Probs on the outward thought process though.
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