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Gloce
Gloce
Katana
Jul 5 2009, 11:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 5 2009, 11:57 PM EDT
If the zombie relies on the brain ( a viral or bacterial zombie) then the katana is a perfect close-range weapon for decapitation and/or severing of limbs. Due to the curve in the blade the main purpose of the katana is slicing. A good katana will last a good amount of time. A grade A katana will last even longer. Takezo Musashi Miyamoto didnt have a problem hacking over 80 people in one sitting, I don't think it will have much trouble hacking a few zombie heads off. Do you find this valuable?    
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Thorn_of_kabolis
Thorn_of_kabolis
1. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 12:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 12:01 AM EDT
you go ahead and find a perfect katana and the skills to use it.. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Gloce
Gloce
2. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 12:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 12:25 AM EDT
That's the thing. No skills are really required against zombies. They can't block with their own swords or dodge. All anyone needs to know how to do is swing a blade. EVERYONE knows how to swing a sword. And I didn't say perfect I said a good katana will suffice. I'm just trying to say not to buy a $20 katana at a swap meet and expect it to kill something. Do you find this valuable?    
John_234
John_234
3. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 12:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 12:40 AM EDT
"That's the thing. No skills are really required against zombies. They can't block with their own swords or dodge. All anyone needs to know how to do is swing a blade. EVERYONE knows how to swing a sword. And I didn't say perfect I said a good katana will suffice. I'm just trying to say not to buy a $20 katana at a swap meet and expect it to kill something."
Swinging a blade like an idiot is just a way to break a katana.
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Gloce
Gloce
4. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 3:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 3:11 AM EDT
Well aim for the neck or legs or head. I do not suspect that the zombie will break the katana. Now if you are dumb enough to miss the zombie...then Darwin says you should die anyway. The skull might break the katana, but that is a huge might. Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
5. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 3:15 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 3:15 AM EDT
"Well aim for the neck or legs or head. I do not suspect that the zombie will break the katana. Now if you are dumb enough to miss the zombie...then Darwin says you should die anyway. The skull might break the katana, but that is a huge might."
Try chopping off a head then tell us about it. Furthermore let's forget about the fact that close proximity to a Z is bad.
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Thorn_of_kabolis
Thorn_of_kabolis
6. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 4:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 4:39 AM EDT
just let him be it will provide some comic relief to see a guy trying his luck with a katana 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
andyroo89
andyroo89
7. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 5:03 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 5:03 AM EDT
"just let him be it will provide some comic relief to see a guy trying his luck with a katana"
This.

He is able to hit the Right click button on his xbox 360 controller or the X button on is ps2/ps3 controller to swing a katana. Shit watch out this guy is skillful.
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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
8. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 5:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 5:18 AM EDT
"If the zombie relies on the brain ( a viral or bacterial zombie) then the katana is a perfect close-range weapon for decapitation and/or severing of limbs...."
Gloce: I'm going to be fair here.

Do some research.

The "Katana" is an incredible weapon. Yes, it cuts through people like a hot knife through butter. But it requires SKILL and MAINTENANCE. Do you know how to sharpen a Katana? If so, are you skilled in doing so?

I can sharpen a Machete & a Ka-Bar pretty good, but do you realize that the Katana was made for the Japanese Elite & that there was OVER A DECADE of training involved for one to be a Samurai? If you did not know this, look it up. Wikipedia is a great site to get you started on this.

I take Personal Offense to your comment only because "I" REALLY WANTED TO KNOW HOW TO USE A KATANA a long time ago. I gave up when I realized several things:

A) It's impractical. To get a Katana where I live would require several $1000 dollars to purchase the weapon.
B) To get a "Field Grade" Katana to me would require the signature of over 10 persons between Japan & the U.S.
C) Even to get a "Custom" Katana from an individual Knife/Sword Smith, it would be about $2000 dollars before I knew I had a CHANCE of owning a good cutting instrument.
D) Training: Do YOU know of a qualified individual who can teach (let alone handle) a Katana? I received a book on "Iaido" (Sp might be incorrect) and I'll tell you...

Reading it was good fun. I understood intellectually how to handle the weapon. But my EFFECT in using the Katana... different story. I would have been successful in less then 1/4 of the attempts.

I would rather stick to "Numbchakoo", as that I learned to use that for REAL street defense when I was no older than 10.

Comments?
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Thorn_of_kabolis
Thorn_of_kabolis
9. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 5:34 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 5:34 AM EDT
i agree completly if you know how to use one and have been doing so for say at least a decade great for you also just try to get a good field katana in america you might literaly have to resaerch a maker in japan then fly there and convince him to make you one. ore find a guy here who can do it which unless he learned from a master he wont realy know because they made their swords by how the metal felt and looked so each was different.

good luck
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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
10. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 5:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 5:50 AM EDT
"i agree completly if you know how to use one and have been doing so for say at least a decade great for you also just try to get a good field katana in america you..."
Thank you Kabolis, Thorn Of.

Also Gloce, you should know that a TRUE Katana takes 5 people to make. Also, worth mentioning:

They learned for DECADES to learn their particular field in constructing (what many call) the ultimate sword.

1 to fold the blade
1 to sharpen the blade
1 to make the sheath
1 to make the grip (Handle, Griping, the part that you hold)
1 to oversee the making of the Katana in general.

{If anyone knows better, tell me. I KNOW I'm forgetting one of the steps}

And to reiterate: the primary effect of the Katana is the USER, not the weapon of war itself.
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Akerris
Akerris
11. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 6:37 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 6:37 AM EDT
While it can take a decade to learn proper kenjutsu it is not the only way to use the katana effectively. Any European swordsman, or Kung-Fu master could pick up a katana and use it effectively. This is especially true for the Kung Fu master, they can use just about anything a s a weapon, so a katana is not much of a stretch.

That being said, decapitation could be difficult for one simple fact.

Imagine trying to cut someone's head off with their arms extended towards you. If you can't effectively cut through their arms then you're in trouble.

If you can there's a good chance it's going to put some serious wear and tear on the blade.

Now this is just my opinion, but finding a blade or weapon that can do lethal brain damage as opposed to chopping off heads is much better tactically, and better for your budget. Besides, an overhead strike to the skull can be performed in tight quarters more accurately than a horizontal slash to the neck. I would recommend against diagonal cuts completely unless you have a backup katana.
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Akerris
Akerris
12. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 6:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 6:42 AM EDT
"That's the thing. No skills are really required against zombies. They can't block with their own swords or dodge. All anyone needs to know how to do is swing a blade. EVERYONE knows how to swing a sword. And I didn't say perfect I said a good katana will suffice. I'm just trying to say not to buy a $20 katana at a swap meet and expect it to kill something."
I can categorically say that not EVERYONE knows how to swing a sword. In fact, I can say that most people don't know how to swing a sword. I can even say that most people on this site don't know how to swing a sword!

What sort of experience do you have in this matter? If it's little to none, you might want to rethink your strategy.
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necroslaughter
necroslaughter
13. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 11:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 11:13 AM EDT
"That's the thing. No skills are really required against zombies. They can't block with their own swords or dodge. All anyone needs to know how to do is swing a blade. EVERYONE knows how to swing a sword. And I didn't say perfect I said a good katana will suffice. I'm just trying to say not to buy a $20 katana at a swap meet and expect it to kill something."
Everything requires skill. A timing pass in the corner of the end zone looks easy until you try.
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Gloce
Gloce
14. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 2:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 2:27 PM EDT
Well to clear anything up about myself. I take kendo and kenjustu at a dojo in Santa Barbara, CA so I am actually quite skilled. So no there will be no comic relief (sorry). Also I do know how much it takes to make a blade believe me I do. I went to Japan with friends last summer and saw most of the process and it takes time and skill, no argument there. But what I have been trying to say is that a Katana is a great close-combat weapon, and close-combat is a last resort, a very last resort. I would obviously use guns or long-range weapons before charging in with a Katana, that's just stupid. Not trying to argue or put myself up for your ridicule, just stating a method that I might use. Do you find this valuable?    
Gloce
Gloce
15. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 2:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 2:30 PM EDT
I'd also like to inquire the difference in swinging a machete and swinging a katana. Do you find this valuable?    
SkipNChurch
SkipNChurch
16. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 2:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 2:34 PM EDT
Most folks can't swing the hand axe, or better a timber cutter.. Hell most people can't use a double bitted timber faller without detailed instruction and then practical training.

I keep my faller sharp as a razor's edge on its happy side, and slightly dull on off side. Lets me have two tools to work with while chopping. Took some time and advise from old timers to learn that skill.

Practice several martial arts. Seen swordsman play with and dance in dojo with their assorted toys.

dayZed? I'll be hauling my big ass AWAY from any such "artiste"...

SnC
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Akerris
Akerris
17. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 2:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 2:40 PM EDT
"I'd also like to inquire the difference in swinging a machete and swinging a katana."
Length, technique, weight, overall cutting power. Huge difference. There's more similarity with a Dao and a machete than a Katana.
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Gloce
Gloce
18. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 4:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 4:18 PM EDT
I'd say a Katana has more cutting potential, but I would say the speed of a machete is greater due to its shorter length, but a wakizashi is about the same length. The katana also is larger and thus has a longer reach than a machete. The katana also weighs more. The basic motion, a swing, is basically the same in a katana and machete hold the difference in one-hand or two-hands. Plus, I am just trying to promote hacking weapons for decapitation which will stop a viral or bacterial zombie. Do you find this valuable?    
Akerris
Akerris
19. RE: Katana
Jul 6 2009, 4:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 6 2009, 4:46 PM EDT
"I'd say a Katana has more cutting potential, but I would say the speed of a machete is greater due to its shorter length, but a wakizashi is about the same length. The katana also is larger and thus has a longer reach than a machete. The katana also weighs more. The basic motion, a swing, is basically the same in a katana and machete hold the difference in one-hand or two-hands. Plus, I am just trying to promote hacking weapons for decapitation which will stop a viral or bacterial zombie."
One, you're telling me things I already know.

Two, I've been trained with several types of swords and must say that the weight and design affects the way it is used. Comparing a wakizashi to a machete doesn't really make a lot of sense since a follow-through stroke with a machete and a razor sharp wakizashi will get you two completely different results.
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