"Looks good but is it done? I mean we can add more stuff to it so we can get a estimate of full BOB."

"I thought about that, but I felt that being accurate was more important on this page.

So if you have a different multi-tool we could add it too OR if you don't want to weigh it, then you could use the SOG S60's weight for an approximate figure to work with."

"Under a pound.
A case of 24 MREs weighs 22 pounds.

I'd say to round it up to a pound anyway to compensate for variations among civilian MREs."

"No problem. Check out mreinfo.com sometime.

I want to try out those British Rat packs sometime, they sound pretty good."

"I heard somewhere (don't remember exactly) that a pack should weigh roughly half your body weight as a rule of thumb, but after reading Gurur's post, I think it would be more like a third. What are your suggestions?"

"Sounds about right. For me that means I should be aiming for about 17.5 lbs. If I had to walk over rough ground for several miles, I would prefer to keep it light.

My thoughts on BOB's are that they are only to keep you alive whilst you travel from one safe location to another. They don't need to sustain you indefinitely, just for as long as the journey takes, with some wiggle room for worst case scenarios.

If you really need to take 60 lbs of gear with you, perhaps your journey is too long, too difficult, or you are over-preparing.

All this is for journeys on foot. If you are driving you can up the maximum."