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Kervaroff
Kervaroff
Caveman Vs Modern Man
Jul 31 2009, 1:33 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 31 2009, 1:33 AM EDT
I was wondering who would be better off in a ZDay situation- us, or our Cave-dwelling ancestors?

They were (overall, anyways) in better shape, more self-sufficient, better at 'killing', used to there being very few people (they were very isolated, the global population was smaller, less psychological strain), and just as intelligent as us.

We are more knowledgeable, better prepared, and better equipped.

Who is/would've been better off?
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JasonRedfield
JasonRedfield
1. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Jul 31 2009, 1:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 31 2009, 1:35 AM EDT
Good question.

I can't readily discount the thousands of years worth of knowledge we've amassed over time, which is definitely a perk. Although, I suppose it would depend on the individual.
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Kervaroff
Kervaroff
2. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Jul 31 2009, 1:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 31 2009, 1:40 AM EDT
"I can't readily discount the thousands of years worth of knowledge we've amassed over time, which is definitely a perk. Although, I suppose it would depend on the individual."
The plains Indians (not cavemen, but whatever) used bladders to carry water and drink out of. I would have never thought to do that (or have known to if it wasn't for my obsession with history), and I don't know that I would be able to do it in practice, let alone bring myself to go through with it.
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Littlejon126
Littlejon126
3. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Jul 31 2009, 2:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 31 2009, 2:43 AM EDT
I think cavemen would probably fare much better against zombies than we would simply because they wouldn't have to deal with the same number of them.

Neanderthal's strength was very impressive; the average Neanderthal would probably give an exceptionally gifted body builder a run for their money. Their bone structure was more dense and much stronger, so they were probably much more durable than we are today. Neanderthal were apex predators, not omnivores like us - studies have shown that they were almost exclusively carnivorous.

Ancient humans were probably not very different than we are today; likely much better suited to living in the wilderness but not because of any biological differences. They were probably not overweight, and likely much better at making do with little - you get pretty sharp when you have to chase down dinner with a spear and gut it with a handmade knife.

Would they do better? IMO, without a doubt.
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Kervaroff
Kervaroff
4. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Jul 31 2009, 2:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 31 2009, 2:48 AM EDT
"Neanderthal's strength was very impressive; the average Neanderthal would probably give an exceptionally gifted body builder a run for their money.
...
Ancient humans were probably not very different than we are today; likely much better suited to living in the wilderness but not because of any biological differences."
I was referring to Ancient man, not proto-humans (neanderthals, etc).

Just for clarity.
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Akerris
Akerris
5. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Jul 31 2009, 7:44 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 31 2009, 7:44 AM EDT
"I was referring to Ancient man, not proto-humans (neanderthals, etc).

Just for clarity.
"
Actually hunter-gatherers lived a healthier lifestyle than us! They could simply leave their waste where they made it, and ate a much more human friendly diet. While agrarian societies provided more consistent food, human health suffered.
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Littlejon126
Littlejon126
6. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Jul 31 2009, 9:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 31 2009, 9:42 AM EDT
"I was referring to Ancient man, not proto-humans (neanderthals, etc).

Just for clarity.
"
Well, you said "cave dwelling ancestors" so naturally I assumed that they were included. My bad.

Exactly what time period are we referring to?
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Kervaroff
Kervaroff
7. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Jul 31 2009, 11:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 31 2009, 11:41 AM EDT
"Well, you said "cave dwelling ancestors" so naturally I assumed that they were included. My bad.

Exactly what time period are we referring to?"
something in the Cro-Magnon era.
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Birdman44
Birdman44
8. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 2 2009, 11:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 2 2009, 11:31 PM EDT
A modern human with out a doubt would be better during a zombie crisis. Theres a reason why we're still around and older neanderthals aren't. If you mean ancient human as in still homo sapien, just thousands of years ago, then it may be more equal. Being that all homo sapiens have a nice gift, we can think for the future. Earlier forms of man like homo habilis and neanderthal, unfortunately, could not. Although they were stronger than us and much more pain resistant, they did not have the mental capacity to store their food for emergencies, they simply hunted food and ate it.
Some may say these more instintctive qualities of older human species gives them advantages, however this is also what gives them the fatal flaw. Once they figure out that zombie bites are deadly, they will react instinctly to it (fight or flight system) and will not be able to make a plan and stay calm about the best way to eliminate the threat without getting bit themselves.
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MitchellJohnston
MitchellJohnston
9. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 3 2009, 1:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2009, 1:32 AM EDT
the reason why we are her today is because we made machines to do our work....while we get weaker...in a survival situation caveman wins they survived everyday with practically nothing...i have a feeling humans in the future are going to adapt in a horrible way... our senses have already been dulled...im sure cavemen had incredible smell and hearing because they had to 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Littlejon126
Littlejon126
10. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 3 2009, 3:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2009, 3:08 AM EDT
"A modern human with out a doubt would be better during a zombie crisis. Theres a reason why we're still around and older neanderthals aren't. If you mean ancient human as in still homo sapien, just thousands of years ago, then it may be more equal. Being that all homo sapiens have a nice gift, we can think for the future. Earlier forms of man like homo habilis and neanderthal, unfortunately, could not. Although they were stronger than us and much more pain resistant, they did not have the mental capacity to store their food for emergencies, they simply hunted food and ate it.
Some may say these more instintctive qualities of older human species gives them advantages, however this is also what gives them the fatal flaw. Once they figure out that zombie bites are deadly, they will react instinctly to it (fight or flight system) and will not be able to make a plan and stay calm about the best way to eliminate the threat without getting bit themselves."
I'm sure they'd figure out pretty quickly that bites equal death...
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Akerris
Akerris
11. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 3 2009, 7:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2009, 7:20 AM EDT
"I'm sure they'd figure out pretty quickly that bites equal death..."
Stone age man was just as intelligent as we are today. They may have lacked in knowledge but they still had the same capability of innovation and learning.
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Birdman44
Birdman44
12. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 3 2009, 12:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 3 2009, 12:45 PM EDT
"Stone age man was just as intelligent as we are today. They may have lacked in knowledge but they still had the same capability of innovation and learning."
I agree, homo sapien, back in the day have the same ability to learn as we do. Which is why we are still here today. When you talk about homo habilis who first started using tools, and homo erectus who found fire, they could not comprehend that they needed to store food just in case an emergency would happen. On the other hand, homo sapien would realize that while living in Africa that they might run out of water, they would store water using various methods including burying it underground, and marking it with some form of marker. I'm not going to write an essay about why we're better as a species than older hominids, but we do have more advantages, such as better communication, more brain capacity, and a larger skeletal structure than the older hominids (Homo Habilis was an average of 5' tall and 100 pounds).
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kyallroad
kyallroad
13. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 4 2009, 12:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 4 2009, 12:27 AM EDT
As a culture we have done wonders with our thousands of years of knowledge. On the other hand, you're a modern man, I challenge you to go out into the woods and build me a radio or a toaster, and a power supply to run it.
Modern man is hugely powerful given our industrial might and collective knowledge but individually we flounder pretty badly, overspecialization may be our ultimat undoing.
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bamoh
bamoh
14. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 4 2009, 12:49 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 4 2009, 12:49 AM EDT
"A modern human with out a doubt would be better during a zombie crisis. Theres a reason why we're still around and older neanderthals aren't. If you mean ancient human as in still homo sapien, just thousands of years ago, then it may be more equal. Being that all homo sapiens have a nice gift, we can think for the future. Earlier forms of man like homo habilis and neanderthal, unfortunately, could not. Although they were stronger than us and much more pain resistant, they did not have the mental capacity to store their food for emergencies, they simply hunted food and ate it.
Some may say these more instintctive qualities of older human species gives them advantages, however this is also what gives them the fatal flaw. Once they figure out that zombie bites are deadly, they will react instinctly to it (fight or flight system) and will not be able to make a plan and stay calm about the best way to eliminate the threat without getting bit themselves."
you said that Neanderthals were an earlier form of humans. this however is completely wrong. Neanderthals are a completely different species that is quite similar. Cro-Magnon's were around at the same time as Neanderthals and scientists believe that Cro-magnons may have killed them. just thought you may want to know.
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VBDE
15. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 6 2009, 8:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 8:09 AM EDT
"I was wondering who would be better off in a ZDay situation- us, or our Cave-dwelling ancestors?

They were (overall, anyways) in better shape, more self-sufficient, better at 'killing', used to there being very few people (they were very isolated, the global population was smaller, less psychological strain), and just as intelligent as us.

We are more knowledgeable, better prepared, and better equipped.

Who is/would've been better off?"
They may have the strength to break the head of a zombie, but we have the brain to make tools to break the head of several zombies.
Brains > Brawn.
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Akerris
Akerris
16. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 6 2009, 3:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 6 2009, 3:49 PM EDT
"you said that Neanderthals were an earlier form of humans. this however is completely wrong. Neanderthals are a completely different species that is quite similar. Cro-Magnon's were around at the same time as Neanderthals and scientists believe that Cro-magnons may have killed them. just thought you may want to know. "
It would be more correct to say that neanderthals and other bipedal primates are hominids. Saying early form of 'humans' is misleading.
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IngerAlHaosului
17. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Aug 10 2009, 6:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 10 2009, 6:59 AM EDT
Well ancient human (early bronze age) and modern human are mentally and physiologically identical, only set apart by knowledge and technology.As for earlier hominids given = survival experience modern humans will have the upper hand in the long run because of better ability to think abstractly and ability to plan for the future. 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
dyezbell
dyezbell
18. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Apr 16 2011, 6:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 6:18 AM EDT
The world's first gay caveman was rumored to have been discovered recently, though scientists are not amused with that label. A dig in the Czech Republic found male remains, buried in the manner of females from the time and place he was from. Some assumed this naturally meant he was a homosexual. The scientific group has insisted the reason for this was not likely because the subject was a homosexual. 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

FoxTatics
19. RE: Caveman Vs Modern Man
Apr 16 2011, 6:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 16 2011, 6:36 AM EDT
Since I believe it'll be our achievements that'll be our downfall...

Cavemen would win. They wouldn't produce zombies in the first place.

But if they did...

They'd win again because some idiot bureaucrat would some how manage to cover it up until its to late. While Cavemen will probably take the, its dangerous, kill now.
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