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John_234 |
1. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 7:39 PM EDT
It'd be prudent just to stay clear of such an area in the first place.
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CanadianSurvivor |
2. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 7:47 PM EDT
"The school is across the street from the hospital so your gonna have a shit load of zeds coming from there so a word of advice increase defences in the direction of the hospital"Actually, the hospital is a palative care unit, meaning the most of the people in it are age 70+. It has no emergency room, and therefore would not be taking any victims of diseases, zombie flu or no. It facilities are for long term care and physical therapy 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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John_234 |
3. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 7:51 PM EDT
"Actually, the hospital is a palative care unit, meaning the most of the people in it are age 70+. It has no emergency room, and therefore would not be taking any victims of diseases, zombie flu or no. It facilities are for long term care and physical therapy"That is different matter, although I'd expect it'd be a pretty grisly place once the apocalypse happens. Either staff panicking and fleeing, or the power/medicine, etc. running out... Probably a decent place for some of the rarer supplies, but not pretty. Do you find this valuable? |
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CanadianSurvivor |
4. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 8:06 PM EDT
Agreed. There will be some medical supplies, but the thought of grey-haired zombies stuck in their beds is rather sickening
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John_234 |
5. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 8:08 PM EDT
"Agreed. There will be some medical supplies, but the thought of grey-haired zombies stuck in their beds is rather sickening"Not just zombies......but all those sick and dying people when life support, medication, power, nurses run out. Do you find this valuable? |
zombiehunter14 |
6. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 8:40 PM EDT
If I was you after a month or so I would go over and fortifie the place and maybe setup a zip-line or something for quick traveling if over run.
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CanadianSurvivor |
7. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 9:01 PM EDT
"Not just zombies......but all those sick and dying people when life support, medication, power, nurses run out."Yeah....definately want to avoid it for a while Do you find this valuable? |
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CanadianSurvivor |
8. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 9:02 PM EDT
"If I was you after a month or so I would go over and fortifie the place and maybe setup a zip-line or something for quick traveling if over run."Quite possible. It's an old brick building, and a lot of the windows are over head-height. I'll look into it Do you find this valuable? |
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John_234 |
9. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 9:17 PM EDT
"Yeah....definately want to avoid it for a whileClearing it out eventually would be a massive hit on morale. Do you find this valuable? |
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CanadianSurvivor |
10. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 9:29 PM EDT
"Clearing it out eventually would be a massive hit on morale."I didn't consider that. Maybe best left alone Do you find this valuable? |
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John_234 |
11. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 2 2009, 9:44 PM EDT
"I didn't consider that. Maybe best left alone"I mean, sure, you'd find some valuable stuff, but seeing that many corpses would seriously have an effect on most people. Not to mention, even if you don't go there, just the fact that your fort is so close to a place that you know you can't help would put a weight on many people's consciences. Do you find this valuable? |
DevilNuts |
12. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 3 2009, 12:31 AM EDT
"I mean, sure, you'd find some valuable stuff, but seeing that many corpses would seriously have an effect on most people.""Most people" would not survive, and the ones that do will have no choice but to learn to deal with corpses everywhere. Welcome to the new world. Do you find this valuable? |
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CanadianSurvivor |
13. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 4 2009, 7:35 PM EDT
""Most people" would not survive, and the ones that do will have no choice but to learn to deal with corpses everywhere.Most people would not survive. And anyone who can't handle the world they have been thrust into will not survive. Only the toughest, mentally stable will survive Do you find this valuable? |
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Jaylea.Mamut |
14. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 4 2009, 8:15 PM EDT
You'd be surprised about the human instinct for survival. In my humble opinion, humans will not go quietly, accepting their gruesome fate. I agree only the ones who can handle it will survive, but that will be more than you think. Sure, there will be occasional weak ones who just can't handle it, but that's the exception, not the rule. People will turn tough, because they have to. However, that's just me, and I've been told multiple times that I have too much faith in humanity. Ironic.
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Drewblet |
15. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 4 2009, 9:08 PM EDT
""Most people" would not survive, and the ones that do will have no choice but to learn to deal with corpses everywhere.There's a huge difference between a bunch of corpses all over the street, and the roting remains of the elderly and helpless, who died what were most likely horrible deaths because they couldn't help themselves; they needed help, and their caretakers abandoned them. Unless one is diagnosable with psychopathy, that would get to "most people," regardless of their surviavability. What you said is very true, though. There are some people that the corpses strewn about the street wouldn't even get to at all. I'm hoping that I'll be one of them, or that I'll remain focused and objective, at the very least. Do you find this valuable? |
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CanadianSurvivor |
16. RE: one fatal flaw
Aug 9 2009, 2:15 AM EDT
"There's a huge difference between a bunch of corpses all over the street, and the roting remains of the elderly and helpless, who died what were most likely horrible deaths because they couldn't help themselves; they needed help, and their caretakers abandoned them.Amen Do you find this valuable? |
darthw |
17. RE: one fatal flaw
Sep 13 2010, 9:18 AM EDT
"Actually, the hospital is a palative care unit, meaning the most of the people in it are age 70+. It has no emergency room, and therefore would not be taking any victims of diseases, zombie flu or no. It facilities are for long term care and physical therapy"On a normal day the hospital would not be taking in emergency patients, but when SHTF they might, it is something you will need to take into consideration. Also I too thought of High Schools, until I realized they are a government building & would most likely be used as "Safehouses", which would only mean a higher population in the building(any & all supplies that might have been in the cafeteria would be gone, and more Zed's then are worth it) Do you find this valuable? |
shadowmancer |
18. RE: one fatal flaw
Jan 21 2012, 3:23 AM EST
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10 men not enough to fortify a school in 1 day. The construction does not allow for easy modification using the materials on hand - also the materials that school desks are made of degrade rapidly in mosture - the engine swap idea is problematic beyond getting the engine to fit - alcohol eats rubber- so you need to have them swapped out BEFORE the **** hits the fan - molotov cocktails (they were originally made by alcohol compaines in ww2 in Findland for their winter war against the soviet union) dissoved rubber in them to make them sticky - run alcohol in an unmodified engine and you'll ruin the engine - salvaged gas will be gunked up rapidly - modifying an engine to run on alochol is hard- the synthetic seals also need replacing - i've done it - public and large buildings are used as safe houses durring emergencies - check civil defence/ emergency plans in your area - it will be full of people if what i remember about Paris Ontario is correct the fact that its near medical facilities also means it is probably your disaster evacuation point. The "weapons factory" in kitchener (i've been inside there) is a fortress- you will not be able to raid that- its also really only a wearhouse and office space - the weapons storage area can withstand a bomb so the basic tools and torches you'll have won't do. Ethonol sold in canada is at most 10% ethonol - thats the max before you start doing some serious damage to unmodified engines a flex fuel vehicles can run with higher concentrations however - it CANT run on pure ethonol. Old tech is better - if i had to choose between a squad car and a model t i'd take the T in a second. Squad cars deterorate rapidly and need lots of maintence- the model t on the other hand - can be left in a barn for 50 years and start right up that and anyone can fix it - may need an oil change - i don't suggest you find a model t just to remember the simpler the machine the easier it is to fix.
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shadowmancer |
19. RE: one fatal flaw
Jan 21 2012, 5:39 AM EST
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"Not just zombies......but all those sick and dying people when life support, medication, power, nurses run out."doesn't matter still has doctors, nurses and drugs so it will be a draw once it hits and since its near a school it is like i said probably the evacuation point - will have civilians,army, police, and all that jazz. Do you find this valuable? |
