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How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 8 2009, 11:31 PM EDT
http://www.slate.com/id/2223285/sidebar/2223286/1. Electromagnetic Pulse 2. Foreign Invasion 3. Russia Hits the Button 4. Loose Nukes 5. Dirty Bombs 6. Abandonment 7. Suicidal Tyrant 8. Internal Guerrilla Warfare 9. Mercenary Armies 10. Space Attacks Several could involve zombies 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?
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womule2005 |
1. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 9 2009, 12:23 AM EDT
"http://www.slate.com/id/2223285/sidebar/2223286/i dont think it will happen that way. Will Durrant said " A great nation isnt destroyed from without until it first destroys itself from within" 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Drewblet |
2. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 9 2009, 4:14 AM EDT
"i dont think it will happen that way. Will Durrant said " A great nation isnt destroyed from without until it first destroys itself from within"True. Note, however: 1. EMP (could plausibly be self-inflicted) 6. Abandonment. 7. Suicidal Tyrant. 8. Internal Guerrilla Warfare. 9. Mercenary Armies. I know what Durrant meant, but in all honesty, the average citizen experiences any of the top ten, even, and they'll just give up on the US of A, or the US will slip into anarchy. Whoever you are reading this may not give up or become an anarchist, but you're not the average citizen; you're probably a survivalist. Consider historical fact, though. Look at the behavior that occurred after Katrina, as just one example, multiply that by maybe five, and place it in any city you wish. That should give you an idea of what will happen, and I should think that would be the (at least temporary) end of the USA. Of course, that applies to the rest of the world; not just the US or Canada. It could plausibly get back on its feet, but that would take years to accomplish. In all likelihood, at least. Anyway, my point is that people are dumb, crowds are barbaric, widespread and colossal mobs of panicked, angry, desperate people are an absolute fucking nightmare. If a major catastrophe should occur, affecting the US as a whole, I should think that the citizenry would destroy the nation from within. Again, applies to most any country. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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MajorDamage |
3. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 9 2009, 9:14 AM EDT
I concur with the majority written thus far. I would like to add: in the previous and only Civil War, the urban North population was unscathed whereas the rural South population was for the most part completely 'in the fight' (war effort and war itself). I believe that the converse would be true if another civil war were to occur again: the urban pop would experience the brunt of the fighting and suffering while the rural pop would be on the lesser of the scale.Reasoning: the massive infrastructure allowing goods and services to rapidly transit across state lines and intrastate traffic allows the urban areas to be more completely dependant upon outside support in contrast to cities during the 1800s. Curtail that flow for an extended period of time (a month) and you will have chaos on a scale not seen to date. Just a thought. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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LWJ2009 |
4. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 9 2009, 12:01 PM EDT
"I concur with the majority written thus far. I would like to add: in the previous and only Civil War, the urban North population was unscathed whereas the rural South population was for the most part completely 'in the fight' (war effort and war itself). I believe that the converse would be true if another civil war were to occur again: the urban pop would experience the brunt of the fighting and suffering while the rural pop would be on the lesser of the scale.Lets try to expand upon that and use some of the members on the site. For those of you that live in big cities like LA, New York, Boston etc how long could you last if your city were sealed. Nothing got in, and getting out was a witch. How much food do you have stockpiled, water , ammo, etc? 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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byates |
5. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 9 2009, 12:46 PM EDT
"i dont think it will happen that way. Will Durrant said " A great nation isnt destroyed from without until it first destroys itself from within"I only listed the top 10, there are 134 more on the website. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Reaper37 |
6. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 9 2009, 2:00 PM EDT
"Lets try to expand upon that and use some of the members on the site. For those of you that live in big cities like LA, New York, Boston etc how long could you last if your city were sealed. Nothing got in, and getting out was a witch. How much food do you have stockpiled, water , ammo, etc? "Thats the truth, i live in Salt Lake City, which isnt as large as any you mentioned, but within the Salt Lake Valley there are almost two million people. Seal the city off and watch everyone fight for themselves. PD and security company/forces would be forced to basically walk off the job because it would be way to overwhelming for them/us to try and contain a situation like that. And here in Utah where you have so many religious fanatics, oh my god would it be hell!!!!................... 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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LWJ2009 |
7. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 9 2009, 3:12 PM EDT
"Thats the truth, i live in Salt Lake City, which isnt as large as any you mentioned, but within the Salt Lake Valley there are almost two million people. Seal the city off and watch everyone fight for themselves. PD and security company/forces would be forced to basically walk off the job because it would be way to overwhelming for them/us to try and contain a situation like that. And here in Utah where you have so many religious fanatics, oh my god would it be hell!!!!..................."Well I would give it about two weeks Mr. Reaper and then those places are up the creek. When the lights are turned off and there is no water, people are going to exhaust what the stores have in a few days if that. Given the fact that most of the city dwellers do not stock up on the basics as rural folks do, there would be mass panic and looting. Not to mention most cities are pretty strict when it comes to the 2nd Amendment, so it will be pretty nasty stuff indeed. If it happened in the summer it would be chaos, in the winter well that would be population control in the extreme. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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8. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 10 2009, 1:29 PM EDT
"Well I would give it about two weeks Mr. Reaper and then those places are up the creek. When the lights are turned off and there is no water, people are going to exhaust what the stores have in a few days if that. Given the fact that most of the city dwellers do not stock up on the basics as rural folks do, there would be mass panic and looting. Not to mention most cities are pretty strict when it comes to the 2nd Amendment, so it will be pretty nasty stuff indeed. If it happened in the summer it would be chaos, in the winter well that would be population control in the extreme."Oh ya no doubt, it would literaly be hell on earth. Which is why i am going to move to a place so much calmer, Vegas :).... That was obviously a joke, anyhow that is why i stock up on essentials and will be stepping it up more within the next couple months to be prepared for anything that is thrown my way. Do you find this valuable? |
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necroslaughter |
9. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 10 2009, 4:32 PM EDT
"True. Note, however:This is going to go over well-again just facts. Katrina was taken and compared to the last 10 ice storms in the three northern New England states-It took 10 events to equal the actual cost and number dead had to be weighted to make it even. Looting, violent crime, homicide, and rape were the dependent variables the storms independent variables. The time to return to functionality was defined as return of electricity, running water, and food to 80% of the affected area in sq miles. The results showed a 10x increase in violent crime when you compare those affected by Katrina to the 10 storms in northern New England. Again, the 10 storms in New England equaled financial cost of the damage but the death toll was weighted to make them equal. Some study held true for firearms deaths and a whole bunch of non-PC type of studies. Places may end but the majority of the nation will survive a natural disaster if the people work together. Do you find this valuable? |
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MajorDamage |
10. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 10 2009, 7:17 PM EDT
"This is going to go over well-again just facts. Katrina was taken and compared to the last 10 ice storms in the three northern New England states-It took 10 events to equal the actual cost and number dead had to be weighted to make it even. Looting, violent crime, homicide, and rape were the dependent variables the storms independent variables. The time to return to functionality was defined as return of electricity, running water, and food to 80% of the affected area in sq miles. The results showed a 10x increase in violent crime when you compare those affected by Katrina to the 10 storms in northern New England. Again, the 10 storms in New England equaled financial cost of the damage but the death toll was weighted to make them equal. Some study held true for firearms deaths and a whole bunch of non-PC type of studies. Places may end but the majority of the nation will survive a natural disaster if the people work together."The key to seeing into this: "help' has to come from somewhere. Not all of the US was affected by ice storms (at once), nor a hurricane or hurricanes (at once) or fires or power outage, floods, etc. 'Help' can surge from unaffected parts of the country but no one will release such help if needed locally. Therefore, consider that any/all of the 144 events occurs either simultaneously or in such close sequence that all emergency services are overwhelmed at the same time.NO ONE has power, no one has news (EBS down) and therefore no one knows beyond what they can see themselves. Do you find this valuable? |
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necroslaughter |
11. RE: How Is America Going To End? The top 144 scenarios.
Aug 10 2009, 10:18 PM EDT
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My point was that acts like looting in violence during disasters has been statistically linked to certain areas. How to say this without sounding racist it is statistically proven that given disasters of equal magnitude not all geographic areas will react the same way. Oh balls here goes. Lights go out in Maine for up to one month because of an ice storm-no looting none, lights flicker in S. Bronx and every TV is stolen from every store within 50 miles (exaggeration to make a point). I AM NOT BEING RACIST this has been proven using statistical analysis that I can explain and mathematical algorithms I can't even spell and everything in between. This is what cold hard numbers have proven time and time again and I apologize if anyone is offended but science is often uncomfortable.
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