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PedroAsani	Comments for Akerris Aug 15 2009, 1:12 PM EDT This is focussing purely on the briefs you have for the Operations at the end. With the exception of Bounty and Costello, the others follow the path of relying on Goverment assistance in a crisis. That might not be wise or even possible if the outbreak is very large. That said, the use of waterways is one that seems to be frequently overlooked. Bounty: Do you have the seeds, tools and knowledge stockpiled to do this? And do you have enough canned/dry food to sustain you until the first crop comes in, potentially a full year? Do you know how to preserve a harvest by pickling, canning, etc, and do you know where to find enough jars and bottles to do so? Can you make vinegar, do you know where it comes from? (All these questions and more, I had to answer when making my plan, so I'm not attacking you with problems. The world is, I'm just pointing them out :) And feel free to pillage my plan for answers) Of all the plans, Bounty will be the hardest, the longest, and the most thorough plan you will make. Costello: Aside from the reliance on rescue, is a college campus the best place to go? Densely populated, with (in my opinion) unreliable, scared people. And the equipment, will you be able to access it? Will it have power? Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
MajorDamage	1. RE: Comments for Akerris Aug 15 2009, 5:33 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 15 2009, 5:34 PM EDT Well, going off of the summaries: the plans for using the waterways are good as long as the narrow ones are not blocked (derelicts, new 'pirates'), it's not winter (3-season plans) and your destinations are actually a good place to go. If you have a boat already, why not scout out some islands for potential stops or base camps? I'm suprised you didn't put down Ft McHenry or other low pop yet fortified spot. Why not use your wife's Coast Guard connections and make it to the little yard? If Fort Meade isn't already a 'bloodbath city' by the time you claw your way down 295, it will be so tightly secure, it might be suicide. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Akerris	2. RE: Comments for Akerris Aug 16 2009, 11:40 AM EDT "Well, going off of the summaries: the plans for using the waterways are good as long as the narrow ones are not blocked (derelicts, new 'pirates'), it's not winter (3-season plans) and your destinations are actually a good place to go. If you have a boat already, why not scout out some islands for potential stops or base camps? I'm suprised you didn't put down Ft McHenry or other low pop yet fortified spot. Why not use your wife's Coast Guard connections and make it to the little yard? If Fort Meade isn't already a 'bloodbath city' by the time you claw your way down 295, it will be so tightly secure, it might be suicide." A lot of these plans are contingent on where the outbreak is. Yes there are lots of plans for government assistance, but they will be discounted in many cases. I'm simply listing the variety of options if the government is still functional. In small outbreaks I feel that government extraction is still a viable option hence why these are listed. Bounty is the toughest and truly I will be hoping to run across certain people in order for it to work. I do know several people who have done a metric buttload of research on organic farming so they will be utilized if possible. Ft. McHenry is actually near Locust point which is still far too close to Baltimore's epicenter. I've considered the islands as options, however the people living on a lot of these islands are still very suspicious of outsiders. Smith Island is actually dry (no booze) and everyone's a member of the same church. The college campus radio is simply the most convenient radio transmitter, being one mile as the crow flies from my house. Hes there may be panicked people, but I will be a calm, trustworthy adult with a gun, which counts for something. Costello is the type of plan reserved for a localized outbreak Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Akerris	3. RE: Comments for Akerris Aug 16 2009, 11:42 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 16 2009, 11:46 AM EDT "This is focussing purely on the briefs you have for the Operations at the end. With the exception of Bounty and Costello, the others follow the path of relying on Goverment assistance in a crisis. That might not be wise or even possible if the outbreak is very large. That said, the use of waterways is one that seems to be frequently overlooked. Bounty: Do you have the seeds, tools and knowledge stockpiled to do this? And do you have enough canned/dry food to sustain you until the first crop comes in, potentially a full year? Do you know how to preserve a harvest by pickling, canning, etc, and do you know where to find enough jars and bottles to do so? Can you make vinegar, do you know where it comes from? (All these questions and more, I had to answer when making my plan, so I'm not attacking you with problems. The world is, I'm just pointing them out :) And feel free to pillage my plan for answers) Of all the plans, Bounty will be the hardest, the longest, and the most thorough plan you will make. Costello: Aside from the reliance on rescue, is a college campus the best place to go? Densely populated, with (in my opinion) unreliable, scared people. And the equipment, will you be able to access it? Will it have power?" Bounty is going to be a serious long term plan. Granted, there will be a lot of variables involved that cannot be predicted or measured, but I'm confident that it will shape up well. As far as stockpiling goes, this plan relies on mobility and therefore supplies will have to be gathered upon finding a suitable location. Thanks for your input guys!!! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ZombieVirus	4. RE: Comments for Akerris Sep 5 2009, 8:49 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 5 2009, 8:49 PM EDT I do like Akerris's idea but the scarf idea is bad becuse two or three zombies could grab you, strangal you and eat you alive. outside that its a really good plan Post reply Do you find this valuable?
deathseekrakodo	5. RE: Comments for Akerris Sep 5 2009, 9:54 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 5 2009, 9:54 PM EDT "I do like Akerris's idea but the scarf idea is bad becuse two or three zombies could grab you, strangal you and eat you alive. outside that its a really good plan" i feel as though your holding back zv you should give us some more of your ideas Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Akerris	6. RE: Comments for Akerris Sep 6 2009, 6:31 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 6:31 AM EDT "I do like Akerris's idea but the scarf idea is bad becuse two or three zombies could grab you, strangal you and eat you alive. outside that its a really good plan" Or you can tuck your scarf into you jacket like I usually do when I wear one. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Akerris	7. RE: Comments for Akerris Sep 6 2009, 6:34 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 6:34 AM EDT "i feel as though your holding back zv you should give us some more of your ideas" Keep in mind that I plan on elaborating on all of the operations when I find the time, which at the moment is at a premium. After the Massachusetts quarantine discussion I'm going to make a government quarantine plan. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Freelancer47	8. RE: Comments for Akerris Sep 6 2009, 7:06 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 7:06 AM EDT "Keep in mind that I plan on elaborating on all of the operations when I find the time, which at the moment is at a premium. After the Massachusetts quarantine discussion I'm going to make a government quarantine plan. " Did you see my reply on MajorDamages thread? I'm not fear mongering here, I'm just a little more worried than usual. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ZombieVirus	9. RE: Comments for Akerris Sep 6 2009, 8:44 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 8:44 AM EDT "Or you can tuck your scarf into you jacket like I usually do when I wear one." Good point Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Akerris	10. RE: Comments for Akerris Sep 7 2009, 6:21 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 7 2009, 6:33 AM EDT "Did you see my reply on MajorDamages thread? I'm not fear mongering here, I'm just a little more worried than usual." Look, I'm just not feeling that thread so I'm putting it out of sight and out of mind, lest things get ugly. I think people are seriously overreacting to H1N1 but I don't want to get nasty here. I'll keep an eye and ear out since you guys mentioned it, but I have seen at least half a dozen stories like this that have ended up as fake rabble rousing articles. Not that I'm saying this isn't credible, I just don't want to get sucked in to an obviously political argument with you guys. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Akerris	11. RE: Comments for Akerris Sep 29 2009, 7:46 AM EDT I've been shaping up some of my plans. I was wondering if you guys had any recommendations for Operation Bounty or Comet? These are my all hell breaks loose plans, so criticism is appreciated. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PedroAsani	12. RE: Comments for Akerris Sep 29 2009, 8:07 AM EDT Remind me to look this weekend. I'll have the time to eyeball your stuff then :) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PedroAsani	13. RE: Comments for Akerris Oct 2 2009, 4:48 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 2 2009, 4:48 PM EDT Ok, just read through the Bounty one. Your crop list is a good start, but look at the one Eostre and I put together. Feel free to steal the yield sizes etc. It should help with getting an idea of land size. With regards to animals, make sure your cattle are grass fed, not grain fed. That will keep your land size to a minimum. No pigs? They are garbage disposals, recyclers and when rooting around, can turn over the land for you. Ducks are a good one to have as well. And I'm sure that Timber would push to include rabbits. :) I like that you have though ahead enough to see that metals will form the basis for an economy. A fully self-sustaining base is the biggest task, you need to make sure you cover everything from water, food, perimeter (the obvious) to things like sanitation and medicine. Effluent runoff into your water supply will make everyone sick, possibly dead without good medical supplies. Comet needs more detail before a fair assessment can be made. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Akerris	14. RE: Comments for Akerris Oct 4 2009, 8:06 AM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 4 2009, 8:06 AM EDT "Ok, just read through the Bounty one. Your crop list is a good start, but look at the one Eostre and I put together. Feel free to steal the yield sizes etc. It should help with getting an idea of land size. With regards to animals, make sure your cattle are grass fed, not grain fed. That will keep your land size to a minimum. No pigs? They are garbage disposals, recyclers and when rooting around, can turn over the land for you. Ducks are a good one to have as well. And I'm sure that Timber would push to include rabbits. :) I like that you have though ahead enough to see that metals will form the basis for an economy. A fully self-sustaining base is the biggest task, you need to make sure you cover everything from water, food, perimeter (the obvious) to things like sanitation and medicine. Effluent runoff into your water supply will make everyone sick, possibly dead without good medical supplies. Comet needs more detail before a fair assessment can be made." Thanks for the input! As for Comet I merely wanted to demonstrate how different of a plan it was from Bounty while still being a long term plan. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
VagabondVance	15. RE: Comments for Akerris Feb 28 2010, 11:07 PM EST Went over the summaries and liked a lot of what I was seeing, the only thing causes concern is pirates, I have a feeling that a lot will be raiding in our fair bay. P.s glad to see another Marylander on here Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Akerris	16. RE: Comments for Akerris Mar 1 2010, 7:36 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 1 2010, 7:36 AM EST "Went over the summaries and liked a lot of what I was seeing, the only thing causes concern is pirates, I have a feeling that a lot will be raiding in our fair bay. P.s glad to see another Marylander on here " Pirates will be a problem. If the colony hires itself out as a protector, much like the Vikings in Kievian Rus they can protect colonies by water while adding to the stability of the region. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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