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byates
byates
Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Aug 22 2009, 9:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 22 2009, 9:34 PM EDT
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NorCal_Survivors
NorCal_Survivors
1. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Aug 22 2009, 9:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 22 2009, 9:42 PM EDT
Nice article. Covered all the basics without getting bogged down in details. I'd suggest that PRACTICING such a scenario will go a long way towards actually being able to execute it in the real world. Do you find this valuable?    
Freelancer47
Freelancer47
2. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Aug 22 2009, 9:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 22 2009, 9:54 PM EDT
Well written & informative. It's a good starting point for someone who isn't military trained & will (Very likely) come across a scenario as such. This page has a place for Z-Day, Natural Disasters, and traveling in foreign countries... Can anyone say Chihuauah State in Mexico? Do you find this valuable?    
John_234
John_234
3. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Aug 22 2009, 9:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 22 2009, 9:57 PM EDT
When an ambush opens up on you, and you aren't prepared from it, you do one of two things:
Shoot, OR, Drive.

If you're going to make a stand and try to fight off the ambush, dismount. Take cover behind the engine block, or find separate cover altogether. Vehicles limit your field of view, and offer no ballistic protection. The only parts remotely bullet resistant are the engine block, and surprisingly, the tires.

If you're going to flee, then drive. Focus on getting out safely, and don't expect to return fire very effectively if you have passengers.

The rules may change if you have armored vehicles, but the general idea remains:
Vehicles are bullet magnets, and it is best not to fight from them.

Edit: Just to clarify, I'm not contradicting the article, which is pretty well written, but just adding onto it.
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LWJ2009
LWJ2009
4. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Aug 22 2009, 10:04 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 22 2009, 10:04 PM EDT
"Added an new page, any comments?"
What would your plan be if your avenue of approach and escape were blocked off and your convoy was trapped in terrain that restricted manuever like say a bridge or a mountain pass? What would you do then if the folks who ambushed you had another team waiting for you to pull of the road and then engaged your base of fire element?
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timberrattler
timberrattler
5. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Aug 22 2009, 11:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 23 2009, 12:01 AM EDT
Highwaymen are a serious threat. If you come up against a sniper or snipers with talent you could be in a world of hurt. A military sniper with a .50 cal. could take out your entire convoy by himself if you didn't have some way of countering him. Roadblocks could be avoided if you sent scouts ahead of the main party. Stomping the gas might be your first reaction but it very well may be your last if your attackers have set traps or mines.

For some strange reason I'm thinking the highwaymen might be hard to deal with. Just ask IrishHitman.

Good page BTW.
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byates
byates
6. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Aug 23 2009, 11:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 23 2009, 11:01 AM EDT
Some of the additional scenarios that are suggested take it beyond the gist of the article, expedient ambush roadblocks. There is a need for several more articles covering different types of ambushes and how to deal with them. Do you find this valuable?    
timberrattler
timberrattler
7. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Aug 23 2009, 11:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 23 2009, 11:27 AM EDT
This is a subject I have always thought needed a page and more discussion. The greatest threat to roadway travelers very well may be our fellow survivors instead of Zs. I can't tell you how happy I am that you took the time to research this and create a page.

"Know your enemy and know yourself and in a hundred battles you will never be defeated".-- Sun-Tzu.
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MajorDamage
8. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Aug 23 2009, 11:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 23 2009, 11:42 AM EDT
two factors will be paramount for these situations: the skill level, preparation and experience of the ambushers against the skill level, preparation, ability, foresight, experience and alertness of the convoy.

Each side will have advantages/strengths and weaknesses/disadvantages. Perhaps a table of comparision is in order.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
9. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 29 2009, 7:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 29 2009, 7:29 PM EDT
Depends if your on foot or on vechicle. never done vehicle ambushed before but I have done them whilst on foot.
Firstly I would fireback, take cover, and fire back. Then, if you have a "team" fallback to the nearest cover. If its behind you then have half giving fire and the other move. When they are in cover bring your other team in.

Otherwise go back out the way you came becasue thats the route you know better, Here you'll want to "peel off" one by one until you get to cover.

If your under heavy fire chances are you'll be killed off if the ambush is well planned. But those ideas were what I was taught.
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AgEnT_GrEEn
AgEnT_GrEEn
10. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 29 2009, 8:12 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 29 2009, 10:18 PM EDT
"Depends if your on foot or on vechicle. never done vehicle ambushed before but I have done them whilst on foot.
Firstly I would fireback, take cover, and fire back. Then, if you have a "team" fallback to the nearest cover. If its behind you then have half giving fire and the other move. When they are in cover bring your other team in.

Otherwise go back out the way you came becasue thats the route you know better, Here you'll want to "peel off" one by one until you get to cover.

If your under heavy fire chances are you'll be killed off if the ambush is well planned. But those ideas were what I was taught. "
As you were.
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LWJ2009
LWJ2009
11. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 29 2009, 10:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 29 2009, 10:56 PM EDT
"Depends if your on foot or on vechicle. never done vehicle ambushed before but I have done them whilst on foot.
Firstly I would fireback, take cover, and fire back. Then, if you have a "team" fallback to the nearest cover. If its behind you then have half giving fire and the other move. When they are in cover bring your other team in.

Otherwise go back out the way you came becasue thats the route you know better, Here you'll want to "peel off" one by one until you get to cover.

If your under heavy fire chances are you'll be killed off if the ambush is well planned. But those ideas were what I was taught. "
It also depends on what type of ambush your caught in. You would not react the same way in a near ambush as oposed to a far ambush.
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survivortype
survivortype
12. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 29 2009, 11:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 29 2009, 11:00 PM EDT
How about an advance team before the actual convoy, to scout out roadblocks, choke points, etc.? That way if they spring a trap, they can hunker down and wait for backup and extraction... Do you find this valuable?    
timberrattler
timberrattler
13. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 29 2009, 11:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 29 2009, 11:28 PM EDT
"Depends if your on foot or on vechicle. never done vehicle ambushed before but I have done them whilst on foot.


If your under heavy fire chances are you'll be killed off if the ambush is well planned. But those ideas were what I was taught. "
You are harder to understand than Sarah Palin. Another idividual who had no idea what she was talking about.

Taught by whom? May I ask? Who taught you "foot ambushed" and left out "vehicle ambushed"? *Sniff, sniff* Anybody else smell that?
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
14. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 30 2009, 8:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 8:04 AM EDT
"You are harder to understand than Sarah Palin. Another idividual who had no idea what she was talking about.

Taught by whom? May I ask? Who taught you "foot ambushed" and left out "vehicle ambushed"? *Sniff, sniff* Anybody else smell that?"
British Army and we didn't use vehicles in cadets so we never did vehicle ambushes indepth. I can only give you a simply idea but not the full works mate. Thats who and thats why.
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deathseekrakodo
deathseekrakodo
15. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 30 2009, 12:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 12:16 PM EDT
"British Army and we didn't use vehicles in cadets so we never did vehicle ambushes indepth. I can only give you a simply idea but not the full works mate. Thats who and thats why. "
*Sniff Sniff* hey timber....that smells gettin stronger...
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deathseekrakodo
deathseekrakodo
16. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 30 2009, 12:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 12:25 PM EDT
"Otherwise go back out the way you came becasue thats the route you know better, Here you'll want to "peel off" one by one until you get to cover."
I believe the term for that is "Fading cover" and its a U.S. special forces tactic )(seals and delta)( thats been used for a long time
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
17. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 30 2009, 12:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 12:28 PM EDT
"I believe the term for that is "Fading cover" and its a U.S. special forces tactic )(seals and delta)( thats been used for a long time"
Don't get? Can you explain a bit more?
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deathseekrakodo
deathseekrakodo
18. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 30 2009, 12:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 12:32 PM EDT
"Don't get? Can you explain a bit more?"
maby later...got some things going on right now
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killerZtime
killerZtime
19. RE: Surviving an ambush, any comments?
Sep 30 2009, 12:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 12:34 PM EDT
Whats the deal here fella's? I thought this page or this site ingeneral was to learn.Not to be subjected to !@#$ head's
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