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VBDE
...Why?
Aug 23 2009, 6:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 23 2009, 6:32 PM EDT
"If your a man then it may be help build a house one the weekends or part time guard. for women it my be a nurse or doctor.."

So, a doctor that comes in must do the work the female carpenter has to do, and the female carpenter has to do the doctors work?
How about giving the people best fitted for the work the said job?
I mean I could see your point about giving men certain jobs and women certain jobs if you had to use your brute strength to accomplish the work (hint ; the only job would be lumberjack in this case or someone who has to _carry_ stone or logs), but since you would most likely have tools and knowledge of the job, that would not be necessary and you could give it to people who have past experience of said job instead.

"If you have a big family and you have to stay home to take care of them then you may get a house."

Wouldn't the people with a family being those that get a high priority on housing?
And they "may" get one, does that mean you would rather give a carpenter without a family a big luxorous house instead of the family of 8?

"Ps. Im to young and immature to lead a city. I may start it but I will not lead unless I am voted for.
I know this does sound impossible and it probably is but its just n idea.
so tell me what you think."

If you're too young and immature to lead a city, why would you think anyone would follow you to start said city anyways?

Also, I would highly reccomend that your new city is not started from scratch, you would fare off ALOT better if you would reoccupy a smaller town instead, since you would have houses to live in, instead of building new ones.
Especially if you have no people with any experience in how to build houses (and believe me, it's alot harder than just getting some logs together).
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timberrattler
timberrattler
1. RE: ...Why?
Aug 23 2009, 7:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 23 2009, 7:05 PM EDT
Oh boy! Once in a great while a little gem like this one comes along. I have to say of all the plans I've read lately this one makes me smile the most. I've got to say that this is a page that I will go back and read again and again. Thanks Sgt. Triploi! Mammoth City, remember the name. Do you find this valuable?    
Sgt.Tripoli
Sgt.Tripoli
2. RE: ...Why?
Aug 23 2009, 10:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 23 2009, 10:37 PM EDT
what I meant by "if your a man you may have to help build a house on the weekends" I mean at one point you must contribute not just live here and take food when you want just because you have a bigger family then the people that do help. and also i wouldn't want to live in a city more then 130 people since its harder to tell who is bit and you also need more water, food and homes

Nobody chooses you job you pick a job your good at I was just saying jobs that they may do. If your a carpenter then go ahead and help build houses, if you used to be a plumber help us get pumps connected to houses.


As for the "follow me to the city anyways." I really don't know maybe people won't I was just throwing out an idea.
I may start from a city I may not. You see If I start from a new city in the forest Im less likely to be found by people wandering the roads while zombies follow but ill also have to start from scratch so really they both have goods and bads.

And as for building I have friends and family that know how to build I I know a little.
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Human_Being
Human_Being
3. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 1:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 1:00 AM EDT
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StayInTheKitchen

"We can discuss sexism in survival situations when I get back."
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
4. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 1:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 1:04 AM EDT
What is this doctor and carpenter garbage? Women belong in the kitchen.


(kidding. Please don't hurt me.)
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Carnack
Carnack
5. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 1:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 1:08 AM EDT
To each their place. Women and men have roles to play and they must play them. That is a basic fact.

Our bodies have proven this to be so.
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Littlejon126
Littlejon126
6. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 1:57 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 1:57 AM EDT
"What is this doctor and carpenter garbage? Women belong in the kitchen.


(kidding. Please don't hurt me.)"
Right! And if she's out in the yard, her chain is much too long!
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Carnack
Carnack
7. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 2:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 2:25 AM EDT
"Right! And if she's out in the yard, her chain is much too long!"
Gotta anchor that stove or else she could drag it around.
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VBDE
8. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 5:19 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 5:19 AM EDT
"Gotta anchor that stove or else she could drag it around."
You would be a terrible man if you fed your woman enough so she would have the strength in the first place to drag it around.

Sgt. Tripoli ; Do you even know how to build a house?
It's alot more to it than chop down the wood and tie it together.

Already built houses got everything you need and more, just clean the place up, maybe board the windows and you're good to go and live a new and comfortable (well, more comfortable then living out in the wild).

Why are so many people eager to build new cities anyways? It takes a shitload of time and is a great waste of resources if you already got houses around with beds inside, and all the other stuff that makes it easier to live (like clothes).
They will also be sturdy and built by professionals, which will not be the case in your newbuilt city.
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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
9. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 5:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 5:32 AM EDT
"Why are so many people eager to build new cities anyways? It takes a shitload of time..."
I can build a house out of Legos, Silly Putty, and crazy glue... does this count?

VBDE: people want to build an entirely new city out of two things...

1) Imagination
2) wishful thinking

Imagination: think about it. You're mind is the worlds most AWESOME vector for movies. Think of a Scenario, and react according to what you want to happen. Shit, I'd make Dubrovnik the capital of the world in my dreams. It's Imagination dude, and sites like this cater to this as such.

Wishful thinking: Do you know of a way to make a City more efficient (energy wise), have the people happier, have (instead of a single downtown) several city centers that are accessable to everyone at anytime? How about a red light district? How about instead of 3 major hospitals in a single 1 kilometer area, you can have those hospitals spread out to help everyone in a 10 minute drive.

I ain't knocking anyone here (Sorry VBDE, you had the only response I felt the energy commenting on. Again.... Sorry).

SGT. Tripoli's idea of what to do for a major city lacks several things. I.E. how to manage a city sewer system, how to distribute labor properly, how to assign medical personnel, etc, etc... we could pick this apart for YEARS.

Sgt. Tripoli: please explain, in detail... why is this a good idea?
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VBDE
10. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 6:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 6:47 AM EDT
No offence taken Freelancer47, I was just trying to help the dude/dudette with his plan (since I believe this is a plan of his post z-day), and this site is for helping other people right?

Although I may sound angry in the way i response, it's just to make him think one or two times again of his plan, expand, learn more, and improvise.

But yeah, one can dream about making a new city, there is nothing wrong with that, but if you plan on making your dream come true you must start thinking realistic about it and make it even more complex, since sadly enough, one can not just say "i'll build a city np" since a city requires much more than just building it, you need a stable infrastructure, ways to handle waste and whatnot.

Also ; a house out of lego would be awesome, you should totally do that ;)
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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
11. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 6:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 6:59 AM EDT
"No offence taken Freelancer47, I was just trying to help the dude/dudette with his plan (since I believe this is a plan of his post z-day), and this site is for helping other people right?

Although I may sound angry in the way i response, it's just to make him think one or two times again of his plan, expand, learn more..."
Correct, and agreed. Yeah, some people just don't know how to handle a difficult scenario. Hell, trying to just keep 6-8 people calm is a fiasco in of itself... let alone a city of survivors.

As far as the Lego building goes.... I'm thinking "Blue Bricks".

It matches my eyes!
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Akerris
Akerris
12. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 7:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 7:36 AM EDT
"Correct, and agreed. Yeah, some people just don't know how to handle a difficult scenario. Hell, trying to just keep 6-8 people calm is a fiasco in of itself... let alone a city of survivors.

As far as the Lego building goes.... I'm thinking "Blue Bricks".

It matches my eyes!"
I just like the idea of building houses out of 'sturdy logs'. It's like a commercial!
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
13. RE: ...Why?
Aug 24 2009, 8:45 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 24 2009, 8:45 AM EDT
"I just like the idea of building houses out of 'sturdy logs'. It's like a commercial!"
Whilst log cabins are viable, they are quite a complex build. In order to make one that doesn't leak or fall over, you need to be able to select the right type of trees, the right thickness and length. Then you need to strip the branches, cut to length, and stack in a safe fashion. And good luck with the roof.

That is a tough job for those who know what they are doing. To the untrained, expect accidents, crushed fingers and feet, maybe a death.
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