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Finnishsurvivor	Strenght or Endurance? Aug 28 2009, 6:40 AM EDT Your opinion? Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
VBDE	1. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Aug 28 2009, 8:26 AM EDT Obviously a mix of both is the best, but having great endurance will make it easier for you to go on for longer times, be able to fight longer and walk farther. I'd take endurance over strength nine out of ten times. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Littlejon126	2. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Aug 28 2009, 9:08 AM EDT Well, each has their own advantage. Those with strength wish they had better endurance (unless they're involved in competition that doesn't require as much) and vise versa. I'm extremely strong. My max bench is about 240, and I do 3 sets of 6 at 200 lbs. I curl the big 55 lb dumb bells, 3x6 sets. Military press using 60lb dumb bells, full sets. My leg press is astronomical, and I'm not going to list is because you'd expect me to back it up with video footage, and I don't have a digital camera. Not bragging, just giving a general idea where I'm at. Then again, 6 months ago I weighed in at 345 lbs, and currently I'm at 295 lbs, a full 50 lbs lighter than when I started. It takes a lot of muscle to move around 2 people's worth of weight. I can't jog an entire lap around a high school track without being seriously winded... I'm done after one full lap. Any sustained activity wears me out until I find my groove, which tends to be a lot slower than someone who's lighter than me. I am a shamefully bad runner, and I'm almost always the first person to start busting a sweat when we take a group walk. I also require more time to recover after working out at the gym than my friends - it takes me two days to let my muscles feel "right" again, but I gain pretty fast. My older brother Andy is my near polar opposite. We're both 6'2" but he weighs 165, is extremely fit and literally runs marathons. Every Sunday he runs 25 miles for fun. His jogging speed is as fast as my sprint, and he can sustain it forever. We work out together simply because we're so different - he pushes me on my cardio, I push him to get that last rep in. The greatest thing I have done to increase my stamina was to QUIT SMOKING. I'm also 6 months smoke free, and it's made life so much easier for me. CONT Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Littlejon126	3. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Aug 28 2009, 9:20 AM EDT Strength is great, but it's not as practical in daily life as endurance is, simple as that. I'd trade all of my strength to have my brother's stamina, but he often says he wishes he could trade shoes with me. Honestly, it's all for naught if you don't train your body - If you're a chronic couch potato you'll be lacking in both strength and stamina. Get a gym membership or start doing calisthenics in your basement, and walk daily. This is stuff that everyone can and should do. Despite the fact than I've lost 50 lbs, I've got a long way to go to get where I need and want to be. To those of you who are out of shape - 30 minutes a day (an hour is better) hoofing it around your block can make a huge difference, even for those who are fit. I'm stopping here before I start preaching about weight loss again. Seriously though - to those of you who are overweight, it's easy to fix and get started on it NOW. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
ak_fred	4. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Aug 28 2009, 3:17 PM EDT "Your opinion?" This is not a black and white concept. As long as you're not shooting for extreme ends of the spectrum. You tend to have both. Lately, I've been doing cardio at least 45 min before I touch a weight.. 4 mile bike, with a 1.5 mile run/jog on an incline. I still manage to lift for at least an 1.5 hours.. WIth the majority of my lifting focusing on compound movements.. like clean and jerks, deadlifts, military press.. etc.. And thats right after I do cardio.. I still manage to deadlift 400+ squat 300+ Clean and Jerk 150+. Max bench 305 (I was on a smith machine, so I kinda cheated). Lol and thats just the _first_ half of my day :) I still see if I can get a swim in or do my 75 flights on the stairmaster... So my opinion is..... dont train to either extreme and you'll have a little of both. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ak_fred	5. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Aug 28 2009, 3:27 PM EDT "Obviously a mix of both is the best, but having great endurance will make it easier for you to go on for longer times, be able to fight longer and walk farther. I'd take endurance over strength nine out of ten times." I strongly disagree. Lets put a power lifter and a marathon runner in the ring.. MMA style. Its going to be _ugly_ I'll have the ambulance on standby... I'll throw this in.. .bodybuilders have to drop bodyfat by doing LOTS of cardio You dont drop to 5% bodyfat by taking hydroxycut.. ;) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DevilNuts	6. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Aug 28 2009, 4:00 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 28 2009, 4:03 PM EDT " Lets put a power lifter and a marathon runner in the ring.. MMA style. Its going to be _ugly_ " Okay, lets put a powerlifter in front of a mob of zombies and see him try to run away :) won't be any prettier. Also, unless you are old, way overweight or just getting started, walking gets useless pretty quick. Running is the way to go for overall cardio fitness. Want to get in shape? Here you go: - Run fast, and run far. - Lift heavy, and EAT ALOT. Nutrition is equally important as cardio and weight training. You need a good balance of all three to be truly "fit." Post reply Do you find this valuable?
VBDE	7. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Aug 28 2009, 6:47 PM EDT "I strongly disagree. Lets put a power lifter and a marathon runner in the ring.. MMA style. Its going to be _ugly_ I'll have the ambulance on standby... I'll throw this in.. .bodybuilders have to drop bodyfat by doing LOTS of cardio You dont drop to 5% bodyfat by taking hydroxycut.. ;) " You probably wont fight it MMA style though when SHTF, chances are you'll have to stay on the move and run alot, and if you got high endurance ; you're going to make it. A really strong guy might have a harder time, but he'll be able to break some skulls while trying to survive. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ak_fred	8. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Aug 28 2009, 8:15 PM EDT "Okay, lets put a powerlifter in front of a mob of zombies and see him try to run away :) won't be any prettier. Also, unless you are old, way overweight or just getting started, walking gets useless pretty quick. Running is the way to go for overall cardio fitness. Want to get in shape? Here you go: - Run fast, and run far. - Lift heavy, and EAT ALOT. Nutrition is equally important as cardio and weight training. You need a good balance of all three to be truly "fit."" You are talking about sprinting not exactly an endurance activity. Sprint length is not built up by endlessly running. Outrun zombies?.. I'm talking about outrunning them over a few hundred yards after that I'm looking for a door, or something to climb onto.. Anyways, your statement is one sided.. what if you are cornered and you cant fight your way out.. ? I'm kinda going by what I'm seeing in real life.. I'm not making hypothetical scenarios to support my side. I discussed at great length with my cousin who is an Army Ranger Drill Instructor and he tells me to train using the following ideas. -Interval Training. (sprint, rest, sprint, rest. cycles.) -High Intensity, try to develop "explosive" power. Things like burpees as fast as you can in 5 min. or if you're on the bike like me.. hit the hills. Dont just try to make it up the hill .. literally ATTACK the hill. Anyways.. gotta agree with you on one point.. nutrition is about half the equation.. IF you train and dont change your diet to acheive an anabolic state, you just wont gain.. you'll just loose weight.. Anywho.. any attempt to get in shape is always a good thing. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Finnishsurvivor	9. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Sep 25 2009, 2:22 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 26 2009, 1:52 AM EDT Is sprinting easier if you´re short? Im very tall Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Drewblet	10. RE: Strenght or Endurance? Sep 25 2009, 8:41 PM EDT "Want to get in shape? Here you go: - Run fast, and run far. - Lift heavy, and EAT ALOT. Nutrition is equally important as cardio and weight training. You need a good balance of all three to be truly "fit."" Disagree with the second point, but the final paragraph is quite true. I'm on the Eat-Stop-Eat diet, myself, which includes periodic fasting. I'm healthier than most all of the folks who pig out on protein or anything else; being constantly in the "fed" state is generally bad for you. For one thing, it hugely inhibits the amount of growth hormone that makes an appearance, which isn't a good thing at all. Well. . . I'll not get into the science; the Eat-Stop-Eat eBook is available here: http://rapidshare.com/files/224455230/B._Pilon_-_EAT-STOP-EAT.pdf Don't worry; it's only illegal to upload these things, not to post links or to download them. And I didn't upload it. Finnishsurvivor: The act of sprinting isn't really easier whether you're tall or short, but how far you can go in what time is affected to a degree; taller people have longer legs. Otherwise, little difference between heights. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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