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JamesHowe	What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 5 2009, 9:49 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 5 2009, 9:49 PM EDT Well, since i live close to both a walmart, and my friends house (With which he has guns, a lot of them :P) I would go to his house, either on foot or bike, since it's not too far, and Bike is so much quieter than a car. Take him, some guns, and one, possibly two cars to the walmart, which is down the road from us. Since it closes early, no one would be there should the infection spread early through the day. Make a way to get to the roof from either the trucks in the back with ladders, or bust through the doors, then barricade them in the front, And everywhere else. Since it has a green house area, where we can grow crops like tomatoes, we can block the edges around the green house with bags of sand and wood we find laying around. It's a good idea, but long term survival will be a problem, since we would run out of supplies, new members would be coming, possibly, And, we would still have to find a way around it if it was airborne, but since we would survive that long, i would think that we were immune. We would also have to deal with people who would possibly lie about being infected, we've all seen it in movies, and there is ALWAYS one person that says they're not, but actually is. If something like this were to happen, i would be the first person you'd see fighting for my life. It's basically been the main thing on my mind since forever ago, back when i first saw video games like resident evil. It's a possibility that could very well happen, and when it does. All i can say is, Count your Blessings. JamesHowe. Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: walmart greenhouse
StrykerPez	1. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 5 2009, 10:00 PM EDT Why Wal-Mart is a bad idea: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Panic Post reply Do you find this valuable?
deathseekrakodo	2. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 5 2009, 10:16 PM EDT "Why Wal-Mart is a bad idea: http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Panic" lol ooohhhhssss nooooossss walmart again! dont worry though jamie boy alot of people think of wal mart first, thats called brand association (i belive) its the most common of super stores so its an obvious first choice. that's what makes it so bad, the choice of wally world not your plan! you did think about your buddies and grabbing supplies and even growing some food all of which are excellent ideas! ask pedro or esteorites if you need some pointers on growing things Post reply Do you find this valuable?
StrykerPez	3. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 5 2009, 10:22 PM EDT Your initial plan is well written (albeit a little Wall O' Text, but it has complete and thought out sentences, so I don't mind). You obviously have at least some brain inside your skull. Don't worry, we aren't attacking you, just trying to be helpful. Trust me... if we didn't like you, you'd know by now :P Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Freelancer47	4. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 3:08 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 3:08 AM EDT "Your initial plan is well written (albeit a little Wall O' Text, but it has complete and thought out sentences, so I don't mind). You obviously have at least some brain inside your skull. Don't worry, we aren't attacking you, just trying to be helpful. Trust me... if we didn't like you, you'd know by now :P" Yup. I think the best way to describe the attack on JamesHow would be "Wall o' Text is countered by WALL OF FLAME!!" Take StrykerP's advice. Visit "The Panic". Really REALLY well written. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
bamoh	5. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 9:20 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 9:20 AM EDT "Yup. I think the best way to describe the attack on JamesHow would be "Wall o' Text is countered by WALL OF FLAME!!" Take StrykerP's advice. Visit "The Panic". Really REALLY well written." I agree 100% on that last statement. I too at one point or another thought about going to a superstore at one point in my life. I then snapped back to reality when I realized many would flock there (plus it had a lot of glass on the front of it). To the OP- Try and find a better location to make your base (eg. your home, a relatives home or a cabin in the woods if you have one). It's great to see that you have taken as much as an interest in this subject as we have. Welcome to the site by the who. If theres anything you need in terms of help with something, just contact me or one of the administrators and I'd gladly help. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PedroAsani	6. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 9:44 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 9:44 AM EDT Don't take the WalMart thing to just mean that one chain store. It's every shop, everywhere. When The Panic hits, people will be going to grab supplies en masse, from every available location. You need to be ready beforehand. This site is about being prepared. That means stockpiling the necessities for survival. When everyone else is fighting over the last can of creamed corn, you should be at your BOL, putting up the last of the window bars, then heading inside to eat a meal, and sleep a little before the threats reach you. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
bamoh	7. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 9:49 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 9:49 AM EDT "Don't take the WalMart thing to just mean that one chain store. It's every shop, everywhere. When The Panic hits, people will be going to grab supplies en masse, from every available location. You need to be ready beforehand. This site is about being prepared. That means stockpiling the necessities for survival. When everyone else is fighting over the last can of creamed corn, you should be at your BOL, putting up the last of the window bars, then heading inside to eat a meal, and sleep a little before the threats reach you." Exactly! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JamesHowe	8. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 2:15 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 2:15 PM EDT I was reading another plan, which was a really well thought out plan, and it had pictures, details already planned out, and just a large amount of things that i hadn't taken into account. Right after i posted this i started to think about it, and Walmart would be a place that everyone would go, or at least try to go. I've done a lot of thinking, and i've come up with another plan, as long as i can fit in the details, i will post it up there, for tweeking and what not. The only reason i said the Walmart was because it's rather close to my house. If i had an aerial view of where i live, to where it was, you would see why i thought about it. I will read all that i can about it, but i think i would have a fairly level head on me when it does happen. But, like my friend had said, the initial shock of it would be one of terror, and fright. We don't really know how people would act during this situation, since it hasn't happened (As far as I know at least), The most common reaction would probably be mass suicide, rioters will be rioting (Even though they would get torn apart by the zombies), preachers will be talking about the end of days, and there would be a great uproar over what the leaders of the countries would be doing. But since it hasn't happened, I wouldn't know. Maybe it will end up like Dawn of the Dead, where there is no hope for survival, Or maybe it will be like Land of the Dead, Where we eventually rebuild and Survive. I just hope that if and when it does happen, people won't be afraid to put someone down that they loved. I know that if one of my parents would be bit, I wouldn't hesitate, and i know they would feel the same way for me. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
deathseekrakodo	9. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 2:27 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 2:27 PM EDT "I was reading another plan, which was a really well thought out plan, and it had pictures, details already planned out, and just a large amount of things that i hadn't taken into account. Right after i posted this i started to think about it, and Walmart would be a place that everyone would go, or at least try to go. I've done a lot of thinking, and i've come up with another plan, as long as i can fit in the details, i will post it up there, for tweeking and what not. The only reason i said the Walmart was because it's rather close to my house. If i had an aerial view of where i live, to where it was, you would see why i thought about it. I will read all that i can about it, but i think i would have a fairly level head on me when it does happen. But, like my friend had said, the initial shock of it would be one of terror, and fright. We don't really know how people would act during this situation, since it hasn't happened (As far as I know at least), The most common reaction would probably be mass suicide, rioters will be rioting (Even though they would get torn apart by the zombies), preachers will be talking about the end of days, and there would be a great uproar over what the leaders of the countries would be doing. But since it hasn't happened, I wouldn't know. Maybe it will end up like Dawn of the Dead, where there is no hope for survival, Or maybe it will be like Land of the Dead, Where we eventually rebuild and Survive. I just hope that if and when it does happen, people won't be afraid to put someone down that they loved. I know that if one of my parents would be bit, I wouldn't hesitate, and i know they would feel the same way for me." if you like detailed plans pedros is the siznit lol Post reply Do you find this valuable?
StrykerPez	10. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 2:33 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 2:33 PM EDT You know, if the Wal-Mart really is that close to his house, it might be worth some consideration. If he can basically jump his back wall and be in the parking lot, then there actually is a chance he can get in. get some stuff, and get out before SHTF. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
bamoh	11. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 2:37 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 2:37 PM EDT "You know, if the Wal-Mart really is that close to his house, it might be worth some consideration. If he can basically jump his back wall and be in the parking lot, then there actually is a chance he can get in. get some stuff, and get out before SHTF. " Very true. We shouldn't just be jumping at no at the first sign of the "w" word. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Whybother08	12. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 2:50 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 2:50 PM EDT "You know, if the Wal-Mart really is that close to his house, it might be worth some consideration. If he can basically jump his back wall and be in the parking lot, then there actually is a chance he can get in. get some stuff, and get out before SHTF. " Exactly. All the places people say to stay at 100 meter radius away from, I think would at least be worth a check. If he finds that the place is being torn apart, he can go right back to his house. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
StrykerPez	13. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 2:55 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 2:55 PM EDT My plan definitely includes Walmarts and Home Depots. Mostly just to drive by and be glad I didn't plan on using it to survive, but if it looks promising, sure I'll stop. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JamesHowe	14. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 3:05 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 3:05 PM EDT i live maybe, 2 minutes from the walmart, The walk is about 2 minutes. My friends house, i wouldn't really need to bother because he'd be on his way there most likely. The Walmart opens around 10, so no one would be there till around that time. It closes around 11 at night, and if i knew something like an outbreak were to happen, I'd be there, right as everyone leaves, with my friends and possible family members. The only thing that is bad about this is that my girlfriend lives in the town with the hospital, which means she'd be in the most danger. I hate to have the thought that she wouldn't be able to make it, what with her family and all. But, if i knew that she was gone, then i would move on. It would either be me being alive, or me being dead. Plus, there are two walmarts between my town and the town my girlfriend is in, which is a walmart supercenter. A lot of people would be going there, since it's bigger, more food, more defense, more everything. My walmart has a pharmacy, green house, a tire changing area (xD) and a storage area in the back. It has a ton of food, maybe 6 or 7 perishable food isles, 4 or 5 frozen food isles, and 1 isles with junk foods like candy. The sporting section in the back, has arrows, bows, a couple crossbows i think, guns, ammo, clothing and accessories for the every day zombie killer :D All in all, if i were to round up some friends, my family, and maybe a few strangers (They would need to prove themselves. By far) I could block all the areas and entrances to the store. If people were outside looking for help, they would be SOL, unless they check the back area, which has trucks that have ladders on the back of them. Use a rope ladder to traverse the top of the truck, to the roof of the building. and BAM! More survivors, ready to be searched for Cuts, bites, And any marks which could prove to be...undeadly :P Post reply Do you find this valuable?
VBDE	15. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 3:54 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 3:55 PM EDT And people will flock to Wal-mart once SHTF, they will want to grab as much **** they can, and if you've blocked it, they'll destroy the barricades, shoot you on sight etc. Wal-mart is a terrible idea, even if you're inside it with blocked entances once SHTF. It's a huge target for _everyone_ Hell, even if you do manage to shut down Wal-mart, even if nobody else goes there in the intial panic, you'll have to deal with raiders, large flocks of humans (most likely army-people too, or other humans with actual experience with guns and squad-tactics) who'll do _anything_ to break inside. It might seem like a good idea with all the supplies in the world, but what happens once the power goes out? All that food is going to rot, and the fans wont work, so the stench inside will be unbearable, and now we havent even mentioned the hazards to your health from rotten meat, rotten vegetables etc etc. Also, not to be rude, just trying to help, but what makes you think you'll be the one in charge? Unless you have experience in how to lead a small group of people (and trust me, it's hard to try to coordinate people who are in shock, who are panicking, who dont know you etc etc, even with said experience) you wont be the one in charge, especially not if you're young and the people you're trying to lead are older then you. People will follow themself first, authorities second, and they'll do _anything_ to survive or help their loved ones survive, and you're just one obstacle from doing that. Plus a small piece of advice ; Make sure to make the text readable, it's possible to do so now, but it's still a wall of text, cut it up a bit and it'll be alot easier to read. :) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JamesHowe	16. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 6 2009, 4:18 PM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 6 2009, 4:18 PM EDT I will do what i have to to show my dominance. I'm not going to back down for someone who thinks they're going to be able to run it better then either me, or people I know who can think on it. Just because I'm younger then them, doesn't mean I'm worse then them at coordinating people. If the person who was with us was some 50 year veteran of war, then yea, i'd step back, but really, people who don't normally think on it are stupid when it comes to surviving in it. Like i said, I will do whatever is necessary to show that I am not a person to be left out of the decisions. I'm not saying that i will be the Leader of the Whole Group, I know that it wouldn't work anyway. Things have shown that in the past. I've asked my parents what they think would be best in the situation, and believe me, They're Terrible Terrible decisions. I've Spent more than 7 or so years thinking of something like this happening. most likely, random people who come to the Group, Will not be a family, i can guarantee that by the time they reach our area, it'll either be another small group of people, who don't know each other, or 1 or 2 people, possibly husband and wife. children will not survive, elderly people who are too old won't survive, And anyone Who can Say "Hey, I know what we can do!, just listen and it'll work out" will be the leader. My age does not make me who I am. It's my ability to think on it, make it better, and overcome what it is i'm trying to do. I can be a very well thought out planner and Leader. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PedroAsani	17. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 7 2009, 5:40 AM EDT \| Post edited: Sep 7 2009, 5:40 AM EDT "I will do what i have to to show my dominance. I'm not going to back down for someone who thinks they're going to be able to run it better then either me, or people I know who can think on it. Just because I'm younger then them, doesn't mean I'm worse then them at coordinating people. If the person who was with us was some 50 year veteran of war, then yea, i'd step back, but really, people who don't normally think on it are stupid when it comes to surviving in it." Sorry, but WalMart and other common targets of the populace will always be a bad idea. http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Panic See the section on numbers. (Think I'm wrong?) The town I use has a population of 15,000. What is your town's population? Run the numbers against each of the scenarios. And it doesn't matter how old you are, or how well organised you are. It's going to be you and your group against hundreds or thousands of others. And within that mass are dozens of people who think they know best. Even if you were all to agree to fortify it together (unlikely) you would not be in charge. My advice is to forget the WalMart plan. At best, it's going to be messy, and at worst it will get you and yours killed. Instead, talk to your parents about disaster planning. You don't need to mention zombies. Just print out this http://www.areyouprepared.com/Download-Guidebook-s/158.htm and tell them you think they should have some basic supplies "just in case". If you are as persuasive as you say, they will back you. And with that you can start making a real plan. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JamesHowe	18. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 7 2009, 12:27 PM EDT Yes. I know WalMart was an unsuccessful endeavor, But let me ask you this. If and when it does happen, will the people stay in their houses, like what the radio will surely say. Or will they go completely insane like everyone is saying they would. The Riots on the videos from the other post were good. But the only problem with it was, that everyone was doing it for a reason. The stampede into the police men, was because of a PS3. I remember the news in my area saying that a local man was shot, because he bought the last PS3 available at Walmart. What i'm saying is, If someone advises you to "stay inside and lock all doors and windows", wouldn't you think the common sense people would listen to that? The riots started because they were already there. All the people were there to begin with. The initial shock would be that you have to follow what the news says, they're right. Which, they really only "help" a little, for the extra comfort of knowing someone else is still alive. It's hard to explain, considering that i can't find the words to describe what i'm saying. I guess what i'm trying to say is, People will follow the orders of the news. They've been taught to do so. If the news says to go panic. That's what they would do, If the news says stay in doors, See what i'm saying? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PedroAsani	19. RE: What i would do in a Zombie Attack Sep 7 2009, 12:39 PM EDT "If and when it does happen, will the people stay in their houses, like what the radio will surely say. Or will they go completely insane like everyone is saying they would. The Riots on the videos from the other post were good. But the only problem with it was, that everyone was doing it for a reason. The stampede into the police men, was because of a PS3. I remember the news in my area saying that a local man was shot, because he bought the last PS3 available at Walmart. What i'm saying is, If someone advises you to "stay inside and lock all doors and windows", wouldn't you think the common sense people would listen to that? The riots started because they were already there. All the people were there to begin with. The initial shock would be that you have to follow what the news says, they're right. Which, they really only "help" a little, for the extra comfort of knowing someone else is still alive. It's hard to explain, considering that i can't find the words to describe what i'm saying. " If the news says to stay indoors, people will try and get as much in the way of food and water BEFORE they batten down the hatches. They will realise that they are missing some "essential" item, maybe they will actually leave the house to buy protective gear, or things to fortify their home. They aren't being insane, at least not when they first arrive at the store. And they are there for a very good reason. The most important one, really. They are trying to get supplies so they will be able to survive. A sane, rational response. Trouble is, everyone is going to be doing that. And when demand far outstrips supply, the end result is chaos. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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