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headofaxes |
My Survival Plan
Sep 12 2009, 8:15 PM EDT
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New Plan - I currently own a Machete now and in addition to preparing for the "Zombie Apocalypse", I've become quite a prepper. My current stores consists of: 5x 100pills bottle of Vitamin C tablets 5x 100pills bottle of Vitamin A/D tablets 2x Panadol blister packs 1x Cold Steel Machete 1x Leatherman tool 1x ALICE pack/webbing 10x 1kg packs of Oatmeal (Not instant, oatmeal lasts 10yr's about) 10x 1/2 litre soda bottles which I have cleaned/filled with tap water. This gets rotated about once every month. 10x 2kg packets of generic brand milk powder 5x plastic bottles of honey 3x 1kg plain flour 3x 1kg self raising flour 1x 20kg white rice 1x First Aid Kit To do list: Non-hybrid seeds/soil/fertilizers More and better food preps (currently no protein, meat's are expensive) More permanent water storage/retention method More medical supplies A better plan in general :P 7 out of 12 found this valuable. Do you? |
timberrattler |
1. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 12 2009, 8:38 PM EDT
Welcome aboard headofaxes. Looks like you got it all figured out.
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PedroAsani |
2. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 13 2009, 3:32 AM EDT
Looting a shop.http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Panic It's not the best idea. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
Carnack |
3. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 13 2009, 3:45 AM EDT
"Since I live in Australia and I'm currently only 14 I can't own firearms. I'm currently in the AAC (Australian Army Cadets) though and I have shot a .22 caliber rifle several times. I also live in a unit and so can easily destroy the stairs to prevent invasions by zombies. As I live about 1 minute away from a police station I can easily raid it for firearms, I also live about 2 minutes away from Coles so I can then raid it for food, supplies, fuel and generators. I will then destroy the stairs and hold out. If I have to bug out for some reason then I can take my webbing and pack and leave.This is where Max Brooks got it right. When SHTF people will run to the cops for help...and drag possible infected persons with them. And Pedro mentioned raiding in the early days of the infection. Overall though it's better than the Wal-Marters. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
IrishHitman |
4. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 13 2009, 3:48 AM EDT
"Looting a shop.Other than that, you seem reasonably well prepared. However, I'd wait a bit before heading to a police station..... Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
5. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 13 2009, 5:22 PM EDT
"Other than that, you seem reasonably well prepared.About six weeks after the outbreak should be enough time for most of the zombies inside to have made their way out. Do you find this valuable? |
Whybother08 |
6. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 13 2009, 5:34 PM EDT
"About six weeks after the outbreak should be enough time for most of the zombies inside to have made their way out."I wouldn't expect, or rely, on anything being found there, though. There is a good chance that it would be cleaned out. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
7. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 13 2009, 5:46 PM EDT
"I wouldn't expect, or rely, on anything being found there, though. There is a good chance that it would be cleaned out."True, but then the same can be said of every commerical and industrial building. If you aren't going to prepare beforehand, then you will need to search everywhere, even if it looks empty. You are basing your survival on your scavenging ability. Since you don't use that every day (you have computer access, so you aren't a homeless guy) is this really the best way to prepare for your survival? Or should you actually...prepare? Do you find this valuable? |
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headofaxes |
8. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 14 2009, 5:31 AM EDT
I'm under 18 and firearm laws in Australia are CRAZY tight so the only way I can get hold of firearms is to loot the police station which is right next door from my unit.
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IrishHitman |
9. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 14 2009, 5:46 AM EDT
"I wouldn't expect, or rely, on anything being found there, though. There is a good chance that it would be cleaned out."At six weeks, I agree. Unless the place has been filled with the infected for that long, in which case, I doubt it would be empty anyway. If you're going to move on the police station, being aware of the police station's situation daily as the crisis progresses is key. Do you find this valuable? |
Freelancer47 |
10. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 14 2009, 5:53 AM EDT
"I'm under 18 and firearm laws in Australia are CRAZY tight so the only way I can get hold of firearms is to loot the police station which is right next door from my unit."Head of Axes: do realize that if something like that were to happen in ANY country that the police forces will be on high alert. Raiding a Police Station, even people with military experience, requires hours of countless planning, preparation, and preparedness. I had to do a "soft knock" on police stations in Iraq twice. "Soft Knock" means that we had the place cordoned off & had the target surrounded. Both times it was a tactical nightmare. I might suggest something else of a plan. Hit Google Earth around your location. If you don't have firearms on you in an outbreak, I might suggest that you look elsewhere. Nothing wrong with a Pick Axe & some machetes in your conundrum. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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IrishHitman |
11. RE: My Survival Plan
Sep 14 2009, 6:02 AM EDT
"Head of Axes: do realize that if something like that were to happen in ANY country that the police forces will be on high alert. Raiding a Police Station, even people with military experience, requires hours of countless planning, preparation, and preparedness.I think he plans on hitting it if the police lose, which they would. If they didn't, then it could hardly be called an apocalyptic situation, could it? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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headofaxes |
12. RE: My Survival Plan
Jan 8 2012, 9:33 PM EST
Yeah, I've got a machete now :PWill post a picture once I get back to Australia! 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Bigralph |
13. RE: My Survival Plan
Jan 13 2012, 2:31 PM EST
Not to mention your in australia damn near everything there can kill you.
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SGTGerman |
14. RE: My Survival Plan
Jan 13 2012, 3:07 PM EST
"New Plan -Are these supplies to keep you static or are they being carried with you? Why do you have 5L of water spready between 10 bottles? Most miltary ones carry 1L and are at good price (£5 - £6). You can also get civie bottles of water from the shops for like a quid. This will help you conserve the water purification tablets you should be carrying as most of designed to purify up to 1L worth. And how will you use the flour etc exactly? 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Bigralph |
15. RE: My Survival Plan
Jan 13 2012, 3:22 PM EST
I think having extra bottles is slightly better. If he can get stainless steel bottles hes got morecontainers. He could carry different liquids in each. Just get aluminum or stainless instead of plastic.
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SGTGerman |
16. RE: My Survival Plan
Jan 13 2012, 3:34 PM EST
"I think having extra bottles is slightly better. If he can get stainless steel bottles hes got morecontainers. He could carry different liquids in each. Just get aluminum or stainless instead of plastic. "Why exactly? Steel is a lot heavier than plastic, and when on the move every kg you can shed makes your life easier. As for the different liquids, what else does he need? Water is the only thing you need. Hot drinks should be stored in a flask anyway. Do you find this valuable? |
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Bigralph |
17. RE: My Survival Plan
Jan 13 2012, 3:52 PM EST
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People would be more willing to trade for a metal container over a plastic one He can boil with aluminum or stainless steel. Carry gas. Alcohol. Im jast saying being able to hand out metal drinking containers to your group is pretty awesome. Also if you have metal bottles and can start a fire you dont need to rely on water purification tablets 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SGTGerman |
18. RE: My Survival Plan
Jan 13 2012, 4:25 PM EST
"A container is a container. My water bottles are plastic and I have steel mugs to go with one of them. Starting a fire takes time, the right conditions and fuel. A tablet requires fithteen minutes and a good shake and you can loads of them. Gas is ok until you run out, which is ok when the camping store is open until the zed apoc hits. Then again I'm still not sure whether he is holding up with this stuff or carting it around. Do you find this valuable? |
Zee-Man |
19. RE: My Survival Plan
Jan 13 2012, 5:40 PM EST
"Why exactly?Plastic comes in a variety of formulas. High and Low density Polyethylene are very common. LDPE is not used for bottles, per se. It is used a a waterproof coating in backaging such a milk or juice cartons. Layered with aluminum foil, LDPE is used in packaging suc as used for granola bars and pop-tarts. HDPE has a food grade that is commonly used in milk bottles. PETE ( Polyethylene terephthalate ) is a food grade plastic commonly used in soda bottles. Polycarbonate is also used for durable bottles such as carboys for drinking water and baby bottles. Each palstic has its drawbacks. LDPE has low tensile strength thus is easily damaged and seldom used for bottles. HDPE has high tensile strength. Both LDPE and HDPE degrade when exposed to UV light. PETE when heated releases the element Antimony. Antimony ( atomic symbol Sb ) can be released in excessive levels. Polycarbonate when heated or exposed to detergents can release BPA in excessive levels. Summary: HDPE the most widely used plastic for bottles is fine so long as it is light (UV) protected. PETE is fine so long as washed with only cold water and mild detergent. Polycarbonate is fine so long as washed with cold water and possibly soap (soap and detergent are different items). Stainless steel and aluminum used for bottles is foil thin and therefor have little more mass than plastic. Soda cans are technically aluminum bottles. Stainless used in bottles is of the 300 Austenic series. Dr. Pepi claims that aluminum is poisonous, however, this a matter of build up in the body which is not considered a problem for a human with a normal excretion system. Do you find this valuable? |
