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Truno
Truno
The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 19 2009, 7:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2009, 7:40 PM EDT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_TzIUlaQok&feature=related

I know it's from fox news but I read some good physics books by Machio Kaku and I respect what he has to say. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
1. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 19 2009, 7:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2009, 7:59 PM EDT
Eh... like I said... be prepared for everything. Fox news blows hard, but in this case the story is true. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
byates
byates
2. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 19 2009, 8:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 19 2009, 8:03 PM EDT
"I know it's from fox news but I read some good physics books by Machio Kaku and I respect what he has to say. "
At least it wasn't CNN, MSNBC, or one of the other Faux networks.

I have seen other predictions that the present low sunspot level will continue, possibly for another 20, 30 years or more. Little Ice Age anyone? 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
PointMan
PointMan
3. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 20 2009, 1:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 1:24 AM EDT
so is it a huge EMP blast? If it is just a lot of energy being released that over loads our grid not all electrical devices will be toast, but if it's EMP that's more serious. All non protected electrical devices are gone, mass hysteria! Do you find this valuable?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
4. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 20 2009, 2:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 2:07 AM EDT
Solar radiation / flares / whatever hit the Earth's magnetic field, a region about halfway between here and the moon known as the Van Allen belts, all the time. The belts are actually what keeps us all from dying of solar radiation. Problem is if a big enough burst of radiation because of a massive solar flare hits the magnetic field, it will create a huge EMP that blankets the globe. Do you find this valuable?    
Freelancer47
Freelancer47
5. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 20 2009, 3:08 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 3:08 AM EDT
All I gotta say if this happenes is this:

"Heh... I guess I don't have to worry about my bills now!" 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Carnack
Carnack
6. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 20 2009, 3:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 20 2009, 3:12 AM EDT
The one-up is that we know what can work and what won't. Do you find this valuable?    
John199312
John199312
7. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 22 2009, 4:40 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 4:40 AM EDT
Why am I a tag? Am I a popular search term? Do you find this valuable?    
StrykerPez
StrykerPez
8. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 22 2009, 4:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 4:41 AM EDT
There's something strange going on with the tag feature. Do you find this valuable?    
spamanninen
spamanninen
9. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 22 2009, 4:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 4:27 PM EDT
"There's something strange going on with the tag feature. "
There is.... I started a thread about a week ago and it automatically put in tags that the thread had nothing to do with Do you find this valuable?    
spamanninen
spamanninen
10. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 22 2009, 4:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 4:32 PM EDT
"Eh... like I said... be prepared for everything. Fox news blows hard, but in this case the story is true. "
I don't see the problem with Fox News. It's really just another view on what's going on. No matter what news channel you watch, there's somebody up top that decides what to report and at what angle to report it from....

I watch CNN, Fox News and other alternative media sources like noworldsystem.com which bashes on both democrats and republicans. Kind of a libertarian view of the news.

I then make my own decisions on what I would like to believe. However, saying that Fox is inaccurate, and the other news channels are dead-on, is just plain ignorant. I know that's not what you're saying but I hear a lot of people say stuff like that Do you find this valuable?    
spamanninen
spamanninen
11. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 22 2009, 4:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 4:34 PM EDT
"I don't see the problem with Fox News. It's really just another view on what's going on. No matter what news channel you watch, there's somebody up top that decides what to report and at what angle to report it from....

I watch CNN, Fox News and other alternative media sources like noworldsystem.com which bashes on both democrats and republicans. Kind of a libertarian view of the news.

I then make my own decisions on what I would like to believe. However, saying that Fox is inaccurate, and the other news channels are dead-on, is just plain ignorant. I know that's not what you're saying but I hear a lot of people say stuff like that"
I see it a lot on "The Family Guy"

What happened to that show anyway? 10 years ago, it was my favorite show. Now, it's kinda liberal propaganda. I think Seth McFarlane sold out.... douchebag Do you find this valuable?    
spamanninen
spamanninen
12. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 22 2009, 4:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 22 2009, 4:39 PM EDT
Now.... to respond to the actual thread....

I've heard of these types of disasters. to be honest with you, I doubt we would be thrown back 100 years if something like this happened. It would take time and there would be mass panic. I'd be out of a job. But I would give it 10 years before everything gets back to where it was. Do you find this valuable?    
Truno
Truno
13. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 23 2009, 4:11 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 4:11 AM EDT
"I don't see the problem with Fox News. It's really just another view on what's going on. No matter what news channel you watch, there's somebody up top that decides what to report and at what angle to report it from....

I watch CNN, Fox News and other alternative media sources like noworldsystem.com which bashes on both democrats and republicans. Kind of a libertarian view of the news.

I then make my own decisions on what I would like to believe. However, saying that Fox is inaccurate, and the other news channels are dead-on, is just plain ignorant. I know that's not what you're saying but I hear a lot of people say stuff like that"
I checked out that noworldsystem.com and I've got to say thanks. I've been looking for a good alternative news source. I was watching The Young Turks and there good but all they ever really do is make fun of people and other news shows.

From what I saw in noworldsystem.com I would think that you hat Fox News? Here's a Naomi Wolf video you might like, tell me what you think because it's hard to find someone who cares about these types of things as much as I do; even on the Internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qinPxSOBB5o Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
14. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 23 2009, 4:14 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 4:14 AM EDT
The young Turks used to be my GTGs too until they complained about Nazi Obama signs being disrespectful but never mentioned devil-horned Bush. Do you find this valuable?    
Truno
Truno
15. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 23 2009, 4:34 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 4:34 AM EDT
"Now.... to respond to the actual thread....

I've heard of these types of disasters. to be honest with you, I doubt we would be thrown back 100 years if something like this happened. It would take time and there would be mass panic. I'd be out of a job. But I would give it 10 years before everything gets back to where it was."
I beg to differ, I'm surprised no one has said this yet (although it is brought up around here allot) Katrina showed the US how chaotic things can get when a disaster happens.

I respect you because of that last post I commented on so I say this to you as an equal not just to disagree and be an AZZ.

I'm guessing that your a family man from your profile pic: that is unless you're one of the kids. From my experience people tend to look past such a blatantly ugly truth such as this one because of the fear it brings to mind, especially a family man.

I'm not saying go crazy and run to the hills, THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING! I'm not sceptical of this 2012 story but I'm cautiously guarded. I prepare for the worst while at the same time enjoying and living my life. Eather way I'm safe: if it's false I didn't wast 3 years worrying and I learned some cool stuff.

Ultimately that's what this web-sight is all about, we come together with like minded people and benefit from the combined power of the group. Make the best of what we have to offer, being prepared can only help you,

stay happy and stay safe! Do you find this valuable?    
Truno
Truno
16. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 23 2009, 4:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 4:59 AM EDT
Follow up to my last post,

I find it an unfortunate happenstance that many people don't realize how dependant their lives are on the modern conveniences of the industrialized world. Oil, water and sewage systems, electricity, and lastly the fact that you can go to the store and just pick food of the shelf.

You may disagree with me on this but I will have to stand my ground on this, WE ARE DOMESTICATED. Just like a domesticated cat or a dog that if left in the wild will die because it never learned to fend for itself.

This is one of the reasons why I'm so big on survival, it's the ultimate freedom, I can rely on me and me alone.

I've tried to explain this to many people and even though they agree I doubt they truly understand me. That's why I present a challenge: Next time you have 5 free days in a row go deep into the woods. The only thing's you can bring are a knife, the clothes on your back, a days worth of water and food, a lighter (because I'm not that mean), and a tarp. To be far you can bring one other item but it has to be small enough to fit in your pocket. I can already some people saying they will bring a hand gun and just like Mills Lane "I'll allow it" but on one condition you can have only the ammo that will fit in the gun. Personally I'd take some wire or rope.

Here's what you do you take the first of your 5 days to drive to a nice secluded spot, don't forget to tell people when to expect you back. You leave your car and walk into the woods for an hour, don't get lost. Stay for three days and on the forth make it back to your car and go home. You have a days worth of food and water and it's only three days so you won't die from lack of either. Do you find this valuable?    
Truno
Truno
17. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 23 2009, 5:10 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 5:10 AM EDT
I'm not joking about this, I encourage because it will be a valuable assessment of your survival skills... and proves my point... but lets not get caught up on that.

I'd like to see posts from those who will commit to do this, if I get 5 I'll go and do it to. Maybe if an admin sees this they can sweeten the deal to encourage others to do it. *wink*

As an added bonus if I get 10 people to commit I will share a few of my survival secrets with the group to make things easier.

When it's all said and done I'm certain that we will have fun posting our amazing stories for all of ZSDW to see.

I think this should get it's own new thread... Do you find this valuable?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
18. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 23 2009, 6:15 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 6:15 AM EDT
Truno, you are absolutely right that with oil, electricity, sewage, and convenience stores, we are dependant on a system that could break. We are surrounded by luxuries that would not be available in a disaster.

But rather than try and be Wild Man Of The Woods, I'm going a different way: Complete self-sufficiency. I will provide food, water, electricity, sewage, and all modern conveniences I can by myself. In fact, the only things I would really be unable to make on my own once my base is complete are car fuel, new television programmes, new movies, and the internet.

But in a disaster, I wouldn't need any of those. So when I get my base completed, I will be able to live in relatively similar conditions to now, which should minimise the psychological issues others might face when there is a radical shift in their daily routines. Do you find this valuable?    
spamanninen
spamanninen
19. RE: The world thrown back 100 years.
Sep 23 2009, 6:06 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 23 2009, 6:06 PM EDT
Truno,

Yes I am a family man... no I dont hate Fox News. Like I said its just a different side. Plus Fox seems to be Pro second amendment.

Now that that's out of the way.... With an EMP, we would be ******. The hardest part of it would be containing humans. However, I don't think it will be 100 years before we are back to normal. I may have went a bit overboard with the 10 year thing. However, the inventions are already there. People all ready know how to do things to get us back on track.

We've come so far in the last 100 years but most of that was discovered that we can do it. Now, we know we can do it. There's literature explaining how to do the things we do now.

I'm not challenging the mass panic. I, myself, am big on survival. I live in the country and try to do whatever I can by myself. I am challenging the amount of time it would take to get back to where we are now. Do you find this valuable?    
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