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Kam47
Kam47
My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:02 PM EDT
Well I am from southern California, but currently going to school in NY. Possibly the worst place to be when Z-day comes because of its high population due to being one of the largest cities in the world.

- If Z-day arrives while at school...

Well assuming i hear about this over the news and radio broadcasts and do not get intoroduced to the situation by a brain chomping ghoul face to face, swift gathering and planning is key. Im not gonna just be racinng against the zombie horde building up around me, but competing with others like me for food and supplies. First off I'll say that im gonna stay clear of other survivors because people may try and take advantage of the situation and lawlessness and loot you for your supplies. Unless i know them personally, i'll probably be sticking it alone or with one or two other people. Less people to feed, easier to maintain small groups.

Now there will probably be an increased millitary presence in the area meaning there will be many corpses of soldiers and police to loot, as well as their vehicles which im sure will be full of goodies. I've never operated a weapon before (an obvious setback) so i'm gonna need to take some time to learn, maybe look for a manual that may be lying around. Sport shops and police stations are the next place to look. I put the vehicles and bodies of soldiers frst because they will most likely be everywhere, like near your home, and easy to spot in the middle of the road. I think it would be a good idea to take weapons you dont have ammo for and vice versa in case you find the ammo or the weapon it goes with.

As for shelter. I'll be staying in one spot most of the time until the supplies in the surrounding area run low. I'm thinking maybe the top level of a 5 to 6 story apartment building. Zombies are dumb and can get lost in the labrynth below me, and i'll be able to hang signs or fire flares for passing helicopters. Do you find this valuable?    
Keyword tags: Escape Plan Survival Plan
Carnack
Carnack
1. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:07 PM EDT
Okay I see some issues.

Looting corpses can be viable...unless we're talking about zombies. Dies touching potentialy infected bodies appeal to you?

Stating an absolute (zombies are dumb) only works if there is absolute evidence. Is there?

Welcome to the site.

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killerZtime
killerZtime
2. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:10 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:10 PM EDT
I like this plan!The only thing that threw me off just a little was the going to the police station part ?Just remember other people we be swarming the police station as well an hospital's so try to stay clear of those.
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killerZtime
killerZtime
3. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:13 PM EDT
"Okay I see some issues.

Looting corpses can be viable...unless we're talking about zombies. Dies touching potentialy infected bodies appeal to you?

Stating an absolute (zombies are dumb) only works if there is absolute evidence. Is there?

Welcome to the site.

"
Yes I would have to say touching the already dead body's might be more harmful then helpful.Unless u had some thick leather glove's 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SGTGerman
SGTGerman
4. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:14 PM EDT
"I like this plan!The only thing that threw me off just a little was the going to the police station part ?Just remember other people we be swarming the police station as well an hospital's so try to stay clear of those.
"
Yeh good point. And Kam47 just wondering what if it happens when your not at school? Do you have a "reserve plan" mate? Do you find this valuable?    
nate121
nate121
5. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:17 PM EDT
qouting killerZtime "Yes I would have to say touching the already dead body's might be more harmful then helpful.Unless u had some thick leather glove's"


and a haz mat suit or at least a face mask (it might be blood born) Do you find this valuable?    
SGTGerman
SGTGerman
6. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:19 PM EDT
"qouting killerZtime "Yes I would have to say touching the already dead body's might be more harmful then helpful.Unless u had some thick leather glove's"


and a haz mat suit or at least a face mask (it might be blood born)"
Well as long as you don't go and roll in it whats the matter? If its airborne then Yeah your right get the old NBC gear on fast. Do you find this valuable?    
killerZtime
killerZtime
7. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:21 PM EDT
""Yes I would have to say touching the already dead body's might be more harmful then helpful.Unless u had some thick leather glove's"


and a haz mat suit or at least a face mask (it might be blood born)"
An if it is blood born the infection will definitely spread like a f(*&in wild fire.A'lot of people will die quick. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
inu-dude25
inu-dude25
8. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:21 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:21 PM EDT
A few big issues here:

A) There won't be 'manuals' lying in the street next to dropped weapons. My suggestion would be read up on the general intricasies of basic firearms.

You don't need to be able to figure out how to field strip an M16 blindfolded, but you should be able to find the magazine release, the safety, you should now how to chamber a round, lock the slide back, etc. Basic maintenance knowledge is also a must. Any experience handling them (firing range for example) is invaluable.

B) If there are bodies of trained police men and military members 'everywhere', an unarmed civilian with zero weapons experience doesn't have a great chance unfortunately. Not to say that you may get lucky (if you can call it that) and find a dropped weapon, but if you don't have it don't assume you'll find it. Try to find a weapon around you that can provide some protection.

C) Police stations are likely to be overrun with panicking civilians and rioters. Sporting goods stores will probably be overrun and stripped of their contents before you can blink. Again, don't assume you'll find anything at all. Try to make yourself as self-sufficient and well equipped as possible. If you find something, consider it a pleasant surprise and nothing else.

D) While you may not have a chance, fleeing the city is definitely advisable. The high population center means more potential zombies, more potential rioters, more drain on the resources. And of course, the compact environment means you have less chance to see the enemy coming. Do you find this valuable?    
Kam47
Kam47
9. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:22 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:22 PM EDT
"Yes I would have to say touching the already dead body's might be more harmful then helpful.Unless u had some thick leather glove's"
im fine with touching bodies. I mean i know its not easy to look at, but your not gonna pass up ammo or a beretta for your squemishness right? Do you find this valuable?    
Kam47
Kam47
10. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:25 PM EDT
well im here most of the time. back home the population is a lot smaller and the terrain is basically a desert. most of the concepts from here i'd use there Do you find this valuable?    
inu-dude25
inu-dude25
11. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:26 PM EDT
Not squeamishness but the risk of infection. If the bodies are still 'hot' or contagious, they could possibly infect you. Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
12. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:29 PM EDT
"im fine with touching bodies. I mean i know its not easy to look at, but your not gonna pass up ammo or a beretta for your squemishness right?"
Let's clarify. Would you plunge your hands into a body infected with AIDS? Do you find this valuable?    
SGTGerman
SGTGerman
13. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:32 PM EDT
"Let's clarify. Would you plunge your hands into a body infected with AIDS?"
Well hopefully not. But lets just say there was a dead infected soldier on the ground for whatever reason you wouldn't need to go rumaging insdie him. Just empty his ammo pouches extra. Then again I suppose if they covered in infected blood I don't thing I'd risk it. Do you find this valuable?    
Kam47
Kam47
14. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:33 PM EDT
"Let's clarify. Would you plunge your hands into a body infected with AIDS?"
i dont see why i would ever need to. Um, lets clarify further. r we talking infection through bites only or is any contact a possible form of infection? if it comes down to it, if you use caution i dont see the harm in looting a corpse if it's necesary. You might wanna hose down right after but like i said, with caution. (not that im claiming to be any kind of expert with bio-hazards). Do you find this valuable?    
Carnack
Carnack
15. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:35 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:35 PM EDT
"i dont see why i would ever need to. Um, lets clarify further. r we talking infection through bites only or is any contact a possible form of infection? if it comes down to it, if you use caution i dont see the harm in looting a corpse if it's necesary. You might wanna hose down right after but like i said, with caution. (not that im claiming to be any kind of expert with bio-hazards). "
We're talking about not knowing. There are these "cannables" around biting people and these people get back up and do the same to others. Do you want to risk getting that from touching infected blood, semen, excrement, saliva, mucus? Do you find this valuable?    
Kam47
Kam47
16. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:39 PM EDT
"We're talking about not knowing. There are these "cannables" around biting people and these people get back up and do the same to others. Do you want to risk getting that from touching infected blood, semen, excrement, saliva, mucus? "
ok well then i guess you have a point.....idk about the semen, but everything else. I guess further zombie biology knowledge is needed. Do you find this valuable?    
Kam47
Kam47
17. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:41 PM EDT
oh and let me clarify i kno how to load a magazine, a weapon and release a mag. i just thought further gun knowledge might be helpful in case of gun jams etc. Do you find this valuable?    
killerZtime
killerZtime
18. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:41 PM EDT
"Not squeamishness but the risk of infection. If the bodies are still 'hot' or contagious, they could possibly infect you."
As well any pore on your body is a microbial gaping hole.It would allow the flow of any kind of toxin into your body.That's why they have warning labels on the back of some household cleaner's. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Carnack
Carnack
19. RE: My Plan
Sep 30 2009, 9:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 30 2009, 9:41 PM EDT
"ok well then i guess you have a point.....idk about the semen, but everything else. I guess further zombie biology knowledge is needed. "
Generally speaking if a body is infected it's best to treat all fluids and by products of it as suspect until proven otherwise. Do you find this valuable?    
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