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Kadski
Kadski
Save or kill the carrier?
Oct 9 2009, 2:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 2:13 AM EDT
What is your opinion, should you save or kill them? Do you find this valuable?    
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Conmiro
Conmiro
1. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Oct 9 2009, 2:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 2:17 AM EDT
"What is your opinion, should you save or kill them?"
Ummm kill them. You kinda sound like that ZombieVirus guy.
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survivortype
survivortype
2. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Oct 9 2009, 3:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 3:01 AM EDT
Let's just say for the sake of argument that you have a base, a lab, and people who know how to use the lab.
Wouldn't it be prudent to quarantine and study that person? What if (and I know this is a stretch) you could make
a vaccine for the disease? Hordes would still tear you apart, but a single bite wouldn't make you a candidate for
the instant extreme makeover from your buddy's pistol. If they're cooperative, universal precautions should suffice.
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Kadski
Kadski
3. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Oct 9 2009, 5:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 5:18 AM EDT
"Let's just say for the sake of argument that you have a base, a lab, and people who know how to use the lab.
Wouldn't it be prudent to quarantine and study that person? What if (and I know this is a stretch) you could make
a vaccine for the disease? Hordes would still tear you apart, but a single bite wouldn't make you a candidate for
the instant extreme makeover from your buddy's pistol. If they're cooperative, universal precautions should suffice."
By todays medical standards, I completely agree. Sadly in a post-zombie world we wouldn't be able to take such precautions, I admit it would be a pain, but I would kill them, out of honor though I would bury their body if time allowed.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
4. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Oct 9 2009, 6:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 6:11 PM EDT
Psychologically speaking, it's probably one of the hardest things for a person (without specialized training) to kill someone who does not pose a significant threat to them.

Murder is not how the average person is built, and I would suppose that 99% of the people here who say they would be able to just smoke their neighbor in cold blood, would not in fact be able to accomplish that task.
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spamanninen
spamanninen
5. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Oct 9 2009, 8:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 8:15 PM EDT
"Psychologically speaking, it's probably one of the hardest things for a person (without specialized training) to kill someone who does not pose a significant threat to them.

Murder is not how the average person is built, and I would suppose that 99% of the people here who say they would be able to just smoke their neighbor in cold blood, would not in fact be able to accomplish that task. "
You don't know how much my neighbor pisses me off...
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Legion12
6. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Oct 9 2009, 8:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 9 2009, 8:25 PM EDT
Murder in cold blood is one thing, fighting to stay alive is another.

Shooting someone for taking your last beer is completely different than thowing someone out of an over crowded life boat.

I agree that without a lab, and the know how to run all the test keeoing the virus alive is a bad idea. I hate to say a bullet is the best answer, but with out the proper supplies you put everyone one at great risk for a hope of a cure.
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pichu9000(expert)
pichu9000(expert)
7. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 1 2009, 5:30 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 1 2009, 5:30 PM EST
"Murder in cold blood is one thing, fighting to stay alive is another.

Shooting someone for taking your last beer is completely different than thowing someone out of an over crowded life boat.

I agree that without a lab, and the know how to run all the test keeoing the virus alive is a bad idea. I hate to say a bullet is the best answer, but with out the proper supplies you put everyone one at great risk for a hope of a cure."
I would just kill him. Not because I'm just cruel, but it's for the sake of everyone else. What if the virus was finaly killed off and this guy married someone and they all got the virus? It would strike again! No one would ever want this. So the task would be for justice, not just wasting the guy. So yes, the bullet IS indeed the best answer
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livingdeadman
livingdeadman
8. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 3:13 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 3:13 AM EST
Save him. Worring about him getting married could easily be stopped with a simple tatoo across his face saying 'infected carrier'. No one would ever touch him. But what if he marries a blind woman? I'm sure someone will tell her that her boy friend has that tatoo.

What does honor have to do with anything? If you tell me you will burry me after you kill me that's not going to make me feel better about you and make it ok in my book for you to shoot me.

So long as the guy isn't hostile and so long as you don't treat him like crap to make him become that way there should be no reason to kill him.
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pichu9000(expert)
pichu9000(expert)
9. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 1:42 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 1:42 PM EST
"Save him. Worring about him getting married could easily be stopped with a simple tatoo across his face saying 'infected carrier'. No one would ever touch him. But what if he marries a blind woman? I'm sure someone will tell her that her boy friend has that tatoo.

What does honor have to do with anything? If you tell me you will burry me after you kill me that's not going to make me feel better about you and make it ok in my book for you to shoot me.

So long as the guy isn't hostile and so long as you don't treat him like crap to make him become that way there should be no reason to kill him."
remember, the goal of this whole zombie thing is to finish off the disease. If that isnt accomplished then the disease is just as deadly as it was before. He might even get you infected while you make that tatoo... you should really consider some more thought
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Bipp
10. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 4:01 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 4:01 PM EST
Save the carrier and contain him or her and sell it to the highest bidder. I am sure many governments, and terrorist organizations would love to have that bio-weapon.

$$$$$$ MONEY, MONEY, MONEY$$$$$$$

Evil and sick is how I roll.
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livingdeadman
livingdeadman
11. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 4:22 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 4:22 PM EST
"remember, the goal of this whole zombie thing is to finish off the disease. If that isnt accomplished then the disease is just as deadly as it was before. He might even get you infected while you make that tatoo... you should really consider some more thought"
There are lots of infectious diseases people get all the time. We don't tend to shoot them as a general rule. Have you ever seen a tattoo artist? They tend to wear gloves to make sure they aren't infected by other peoples blood. And exactly how would you know they are a carrier in the first place? If I have sex with a woman who has an STD it doesn't mean that I've got it for sure. I'm not the only one who should give it more thought.
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mudroll
mudroll
12. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 4:27 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 4:27 PM EST
"Save the carrier and contain him or her and sell it to the highest bidder. I am sure many governments, and terrorist organizations would love to have that bio-weapon.

$$$ MONEY, MONEY, MONEY$$$$

Evil and sick is how I roll. "
The government and terrorist organizations will be wiped out, or in hiding.
Yeah they'll all just come together for an auction............
Think before you post.
And what would you do with the money? Take a bath in it?
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Vivalamacster
Vivalamacster
13. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 4:43 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 4:43 PM EST
"Save him. Worring about him getting married could easily be stopped with a simple tatoo across his face saying 'infected carrier'. No one would ever touch him. But what if he marries a blind woman? I'm sure someone will tell her that her boy friend has that tatoo.

What does honor have to do with anything? If you tell me you will burry me after you kill me that's not going to make me feel better about you and make it ok in my book for you to shoot me.

So long as the guy isn't hostile and so long as you don't treat him like crap to make him become that way there should be no reason to kill him."
I disagree with the first part and agree with the second.
Wether he has a tattoo or not, what happens if he sneezes on you? Or Coughs on you? Or maybe he rapes someone? Then the infection starts again. The only way he would be able to live is locked in solitary which is no way to live at all. And I doubt the government would allow him to just live life. They would probably dissect him and try and make a cure out of him.
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livingdeadman
livingdeadman
14. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 5:11 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 5:11 PM EST
"I disagree with the first part and agree with the second.
Wether he has a tattoo or not, what happens if he sneezes on you? Or Coughs on you? Or maybe he rapes someone? Then the infection starts again. The only way he would be able to live is locked in solitary which is no way to live at all. And I doubt the government would allow him to just live life. They would probably dissect him and try and make a cure out of him. "
If given the choice between solitary confinement and being shot I'll take the solitary any day. Lock me in a house and board up the windows.

There are these little things you can get these days that fit on your face. They are white, (normally), light weight and cover your nose and mouth. Coughing and sneezing wouldn't be a problem.

Like I said before, how do you know he is a carrier in the first place? Are you going to shoot everyone you meet that has a scratch on them?

If the government still exists to the point of having medical facilities to take him apart and make a cure out of him then they have the resources to keep him alive as well.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
15. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 5:43 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 5:43 PM EST
If what you have is an honest to god naturally immune person, then you have just met the potential saviour of mankind.

Why the **** would you shoot him? (No jew jokes, you are not Cartman)

Even if you don't have a lab, they are still going to be intact. And once you have someone like this to rally around, it could mean a concerted push to retake that area of the country, bring in the scientists and put them to work on a cure/vaccine.

As for infecting others, he couldn't. If he is immune, then his immune system has killed off the infection. Be it virus, bacteria, parasite or prion, there is no halfway house. Once you are infected, you are infectious until you kill the damn thing off, or it kills you.
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mumatil
mumatil
16. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 5:51 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 5:54 PM EST
I'd probly keep him alive but keep him under quarantine and of course research him. Do you find this valuable?    
emovampire123
emovampire123
17. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Nov 2 2009, 7:12 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 7:19 PM EST
it rely all depends on the situation, if you have the ability and resources to keep it contained then go ahead, but if theres zombies roaming around everywhere i think itd be better to have them find new ways to get rid of the zombies until its not so much of a problem, but at the first sign of any problem id kill him. you could take some safety measures to make sure he doesnt spread it assuming its transmitted like other zombie diseases, like knocking out all of there teeth and blinding them if you have to, and pulling off there fingernails and toenails so they couldnt scratch you ether and putting them in chains, i know it may sound cruel to you but id rather be cruel and alive then dead knowing the human race is doomed because i wanted to be humane.... Do you find this valuable?    
Dills147
Dills147
18. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Dec 5 2009, 8:57 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 5 2009, 8:57 PM EST
if they are hostile to you then shoot them, if not leave them Do you find this valuable?    

36janice
19. RE: Save or kill the carrier?
Dec 19 2009, 4:38 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 19 2009, 4:38 PM EST
KILL!!!! u wouldnt stand a flicking chance if you coudnt/didnt know you had to. Do you find this valuable?    
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