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Bipp
Bipp
Hazardous Materials
Oct 21 2009, 2:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2009, 2:28 PM EDT
I have began this page and will be adding more.

Suggestions for information, or thoughts are welcome in this thread.

The page is to assist in post Z-Day travel, and scavenging. So you can keep a look out of dangerous trains, semis, barrels, and containers.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
1. RE: Hazardous Materials
Oct 21 2009, 5:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 21 2009, 5:38 PM EDT
Any Haz-Mat in the united states Must By law be clearly marked. At least at a commercial level.

Most of the containers that store them are built to be very very durable, so as long as they aren't sitting in water most materials should be ok for a long time.
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ironhand
ironhand
2. RE: Hazardous Materials
Oct 24 2009, 7:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2009, 7:30 PM EDT
"Any Haz-Mat in the united states Must By law be clearly marked. At least at a commercial level.

Most of the containers that store them are built to be very very durable, so as long as they aren't sitting in water most materials should be ok for a long time."
I was thinking about what items that fall in this category that would be marked hazardous, but scroungers would still want.

example: cutting torch tanks, propane tanks, fuel, etc etc.

Tell your fellow scroungers WHAT hazardous goods they'd want and then tell them how it was marked : )

good start : ))
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
3. RE: Hazardous Materials
Oct 24 2009, 8:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2009, 8:49 PM EDT
For oxyfuel welding you want to find acetylene cylinders.

for oxyfuel cutting you can use a multitude of gases.

Acetylene
Propane
Propylene (propene)
Mapp
Natural Gas
Butane

For OxyFuel cutting i'd choose Propylene or propane over the more popular acetylene. Both Gases have a much higher BTU/Ft3 and are therefor more effective in cutting. An additional perk is both gases are stored as a liquid meaning that there is more gas per tank. Acetylene is very unstable and must be stabilized in acetone to prevent it from exploding past 15psi. Its worth noting that if you plan on using gases other than acetylene for cutting you need tips that have additional preheat holes (generally 7 instead of like 12 or 14)

Avoid Cryogenic tanks. These can be identified by being fatter than normal tanks and they have a series of pipes and valves on the top. The reason i say to avoid these tanks is that they are constantly bleeding off gas as they heat, so after a week or two they are toast.

All the tanks will be clearly labeled with their contents. Any Gas cylinder should be transported with a safety cap and should be held securely in the upright position.
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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
4. RE: Hazardous Materials
Oct 24 2009, 9:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2009, 9:29 PM EDT
Nice Idea Bipp!

Being that I work in a Hotel in the Security Department I would have to say that you might want to add a few things of what to avoid:

*Biohazard- clearly marked Red Bins (Here in the U.S., it might be another color in other countires). Many of these bins contain items that have Blood, Bodily Waste, or Sharps. Most likely you don't want anything from here.

*Anything I.D.-ing Poison Gas- if you still want to scroung this for some reason, it would be good to have info on what they are marked with.

EDIT= Content.
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
5. RE: Hazardous Materials
Oct 24 2009, 10:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2009, 10:03 PM EDT
Any place that has Haz Mat will have the MSDS (materials safety data sheet) on the substance. This sheet explains any potential hazards safety measures you should take. Do you find this valuable?    
ironhand
ironhand
6. RE: Hazardous Materials
Oct 24 2009, 10:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 24 2009, 10:30 PM EDT
"For oxyfuel welding you want to find acetylene cylinders.

for oxyfuel cutting you can use a multitude of gases.

Acetylene
Propane
Propylene (propene)
Mapp
Natural Gas
Butane

For OxyFuel cutting i'd choose Propylene or propane over the more popular acetylene. Both Gases have a much higher BTU/Ft3 and are therefor more effective in cutting. An additional perk is both gases are stored as a liquid meaning that there is more gas per tank. Acetylene is very unstable and must be stabilized in acetone to prevent it from exploding past 15psi. Its worth noting that if you plan on using gases other than acetylene for cutting you need tips that have additional preheat holes (generally 7 instead of like 12 or 14)

Avoid Cryogenic tanks. These can be identified by being fatter than normal tanks and they have a series of pipes and valves on the top. The reason i say to avoid these tanks is that they are constantly bleeding off gas as they heat, so after a week or two they are toast.

All the tanks will be clearly labeled with their contents. Any Gas cylinder should be transported with a safety cap and should be held securely in the upright position."
brandon,

thanks for the info, that's what I'm looking for : )

got any pics?
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
7. RE: Hazardous Materials
Oct 25 2009, 12:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 25 2009, 12:13 AM EDT
http://img.en.china.cn/0/0,0,241,16905,1179,1384,34324dc1.jpg
this is a typical portable cryogenic cylinder.

http://www.flogas.co.uk/i/product/8.jpg
this is a liquid propane cylinder

http://www.allproducts.com/manufacture98/cylinders/supplier1.jpg
acetylene cylinder.
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