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FrenchLegion
FrenchLegion
Believability of "Rage" virus
Oct 27 2009, 10:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 27 2009, 10:25 AM EDT
I don't see how the Rage virus is any more realistic than other Z-viruses. There is no way a virus can take hold that fast without at least a minimal incubation period. Look at Morningstar, the virus that creates Sprinters and later Shamblers. The least amount of time it takes to take effect is 45 minutes, and that's if someone is traumatically introduced to the virus. Otherwise, it usually takes a week.

In fact, there is no zombie that is the most "realistic". Although I understand that living people "raging" infected by a virus is more believable than undead, nearly-indestructible zombies, the Rage virus is, to me, the LEAST unrealistic of any Z-virus.

If you really think that a virus like Rage can happen that fully infects people within 5-30 seconds, than I can say that undead zombies can happen.
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Iamz0rs
Iamz0rs
1. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Oct 28 2009, 5:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2009, 5:54 PM EDT
But you belive in viruses that can "magically" keep cells alive without nutriance and using supernatural contact (no nerve tissue) to move.


As for incubation time, we can't know. But for sure there is bacteria and virus that can make you sick within hours of infection. Keep in mind that these are usually eaten, surviving the sour stomach and then starting to come alive inside your intestines. And these are capable of infection you within hours.

Now I doubt a rage virus will make you rage in 10 seconds. But with a large dose injected directly into the bloodstream and then targeting something as sensetive as the brain you shouln't understimate their potency.
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medestroyer
2. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Dec 25 2009, 12:07 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2009, 12:07 PM EST
iv found a site u might be interested in reading. ita all about how some common viruses can easily morth,infect ppl, and become zombie like. if its real, i dont know. im not a scientist.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
3. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Dec 25 2009, 4:55 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2009, 4:55 PM EST
Cracked are not really the best people to get your science from. 3  out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?    
CyprusBill
CyprusBill
4. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Dec 25 2009, 6:29 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 25 2009, 6:29 PM EST
Given the flexibility of viruses and how easily they can mutate (the flu practically changes from person to person) it's not completely out of the question for a few diseases, say encephalitis (to cook the brain with fever), enfluenza (for rapid gestation and communicability) , rabies (for aggression), and ebola (for flavoring), to combine and make a disease that would give a strong presentation of a "zombie virus." That could become a pandemic FAST, especially if the flu made it airborne, or gave it the ability to jump species. Do you find this valuable?    

medestroyer
5. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Dec 26 2009, 4:08 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2009, 4:08 PM EST
"Cracked are not really the best people to get your science from."
i figured so, but it's still something to think about
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Eritsukukun
Eritsukukun
6. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Dec 26 2009, 4:36 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2009, 4:37 PM EST
"Cracked are not really the best people to get your science from."
especially when there are plenty
http://discovermagazine.com/photos/04-zombie-animals-and-the-parasites-that-control-them
of scientific
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090811161345.htm
sites to get information from.

Could someone PM me on how to make "word links"? It would be much appreciated.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
7. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Dec 26 2009, 6:04 PM EST | Post edited: Dec 26 2009, 6:05 PM EST
"Could someone PM me on how to make "word links"? It would be much appreciated."
Don't think you can do them in thread form.

Edit: Nope, you can't. Wetpaint can't process the html correctly in threads. Pages only.
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zombkilla
zombkilla
8. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Jan 25 2010, 3:20 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 25 2010, 3:20 PM EST
wow do you honestly believe zombies are really going to take over the world, come on. Be smart. I like learning about zombies and watching zombie movies but do you really believe this romero crap! 3  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
JPTank
JPTank
9. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Jan 25 2010, 3:35 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 25 2010, 3:35 PM EST
"wow do you honestly believe zombies are really going to take over the world, come on. Be smart. I like learning about zombies and watching zombie movies but do you really believe this romero crap!"
Lmao I wouldn't doubt it either.
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Eritsukukun
Eritsukukun
10. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Jan 25 2010, 4:31 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 25 2010, 4:31 PM EST
"wow do you honestly believe zombies are really going to take over the world, come on. Be smart. I like learning about zombies and watching zombie movies but do you really believe this romero crap!"
You see. There are people who like to delve deep into their hobbies. Trekkies invent even invent languages and build scale replicas of the Enterprise.
Train people have time tables for their miniature trains in the basement. The even have back stories for the little people in their imaginary town. Flight sims have vast networks where they fly imaginary plain as if it was a real airport with the complete sets of jobs needed.
That is what makes someone a nerd.
Most people here are zombie nerds and they are in no way different.
That is why you must realize what a complete troll you are being and if that is the smartest comment you have to display I suggest you sit far in the back by the window and shut up so that we can have our fun.
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Zroom
Zroom
11. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Jan 25 2010, 5:53 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 25 2010, 5:53 PM EST
Honestly, I think rage is the MOST likely. Sure it may take a few hours to infect, but the likelyness that a zombie's physical abilities haven't change much is most likely. A "normal" virus can't make you jump and higher or anything, unless of course it rushed the production of testosterone or adrenaline or even both. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
12. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Jan 25 2010, 8:45 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 25 2010, 8:45 PM EST
"wow do you honestly believe zombies are really going to take over the world, come on. Be smart. I like learning about zombies and watching zombie movies but do you really believe this romero crap!"
Depends. Some believe that the symptoms can be mimicked or adapted from nature. Others think that it would make a good bioweapon (imagine how quickly enemy troops would flee if they were being eaten by their own dead), whilst others use it as an allegory for civil unrest, riots, and similar apocalyptic nastiness.

Troll like this again and you get banned.
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Awesome_Lad
Awesome_Lad
13. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Feb 8 2010, 10:19 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2010, 10:19 PM EST
"Honestly, I think rage is the MOST likely. Sure it may take a few hours to infect, but the likelyness that a zombie's physical abilities haven't change much is most likely. A "normal" virus can't make you jump and higher or anything, unless of course it rushed the production of testosterone or adrenaline or even both."
Well, that's not entirely correct. We're a lot stronger then we think we are. Our body places inhibitors on our muscles, so we don't tear ourselves apart. It's entirely possible that a virus could remove these, and while it would make the zombies potentially faster and stronger it would only be for a short time, since the degradation of the muscle probably wouldn't get repaired as it normally would in a healthy individual. Still, most people aren't in great shape so even with those inhibitors removed a person of moderate fitness might be able to out run a small group of them.

I'm a two classes away from getting my BA in Biology, and...roughly 2 semesters from a degree in Anthropology.
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HamsterPigs
14. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Feb 8 2010, 10:32 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2010, 10:32 PM EST
"wow do you honestly believe zombies are really going to take over the world, come on. Be smart. I like learning about zombies and watching zombie movies but do you really believe this romero crap!"
I seriously would be shocked if zombies ever really did come back to life. But there is the scary possibility of Rabies mutating (viruses are always changing) and causing people to be very similar to zombies. Best to be prepared, either way. I've seen animals infected with Rabies, and it's freakin' scary. Then I watched Quarantine. Even scarier. If I had a choice between the two, I'd prefer slow, groaning zombies who can't figure out how to scale a fence, rather than Rabies infected people barrelling towards me screaming like banshees from hell.
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Maricely
Maricely
15. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Feb 8 2010, 10:40 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2010, 10:40 PM EST
"wow do you honestly believe zombies are really going to take over the world, come on. Be smart. I like learning about zombies and watching zombie movies but do you really believe this romero crap!"
I say you "be smart" and prepare for any disaster situation.
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MajorDamage
MajorDamage
16. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Feb 8 2010, 10:43 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2010, 10:43 PM EST
"I say you "be smart" and prepare for any disaster situation."
or you could at least shop smart
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Maricely
Maricely
17. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Feb 8 2010, 10:44 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2010, 10:44 PM EST
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Awesome_Lad
Awesome_Lad
18. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Feb 8 2010, 11:49 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2010, 11:49 PM EST
haha, exactly I'd rather prep for the fast zombies and not need it, then prep for slow zombies and end up with fast ones. Do you find this valuable?    

HamsterPigs
19. RE: Believability of "Rage" virus
Feb 8 2010, 11:55 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 8 2010, 11:55 PM EST
"haha, exactly I'd rather prep for the fast zombies and not need it, then prep for slow zombies and end up with fast ones."
I agree. That wouldn't be pleasant.
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