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byates
byates
20. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Feb 12 2010, 7:00 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 12 2010, 7:00 PM EST
"One other idea i was throwing around was some type of hammer and pick. i know how to make a good hammer head, but the spike will be a little tricky. not to mention i wanna make it have a waterproof seal, for the screw on end cap."
I have seen a small garden pick with a small handle. Might be able to use the pick and reshape the flat side. They were cast steel from the looks.
Here is a link to a better quality one, it has a square hole for the handle, the one I saw had a round one
http://www.thejapanwoodworker.com/product.asp?mimid=20287B6E2GJERANBKCCT2WSUV0ZK9DRW&pf_id=18.065.55&dept_id=13204
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Akerris
Akerris
21. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Feb 13 2010, 7:51 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 13 2010, 7:51 AM EST
"I'm very sorry about my English skills, I like to figure my descent knowledge of physics and metal works, should at least make my opinion semi-viable.

This is just a prototype I have made to demonstrate my point.

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/photos/album/157733/Mecamouser

The design I used for the striking head of the weapon demonstrates my point. The thick cut washers will create a 360 degree striking surface, as well as concentrate the force over a smaller area of impact. Transferring a higher amount of energy into a small space. This design is designed to concentrate the force on impact, making the impact more devastating.

But I am still open to new designs and input.

Lol, and yes I have tested it out, and yes it does work!"
It looks good against a living person, but not against the living dead. Of course it works, it's a blunt object, but can it cause terminal brain damage every single strike? There's an English expression, "If it ain't broke don't fix it." I think it applies to the warhammer which needed few changes or improvements from 1400-World War I.

@Panzieman
THe maul has more in common with a battle axe than it does with a warhammer. Swinging a 6lb maul vs a 2lb warhammer is worlds apart.
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mecamouser
mecamouser
22. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Feb 16 2010, 2:45 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 16 2010, 2:45 PM EST
"It looks good against a living person, but not against the living dead. Of course it works, it's a blunt object, but can it cause terminal brain damage every single strike? There's an English expression, "If it ain't broke don't fix it." I think it applies to the warhammer which needed few changes or improvements from 1400-World War I.

@Panzieman
THe maul has more in common with a battle axe than it does with a warhammer. Swinging a 6lb maul vs a 2lb warhammer is worlds apart."
When i made this weapon, made the entire neck out of threaded steal Rod. The 3/4 inch nuts are made of galvanized steel, the cut washers on the head work to transfer the force over a smaller surface. i designed the whole weapon based on the idea of caving in someone's skull.

But before i can claim this, I am going to test the weapon out first. what can i used to simulate a zombie head? what makes this zombie killing certified?

@Panzieman
He has a very good point. If you ever wanna see what he means, just head to a large home depot and check out the gardening section, or ask for a 6lb head sledge hammer.
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thepanzieman
thepanzieman
23. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Feb 16 2010, 2:58 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 16 2010, 2:58 PM EST
"It looks good against a living person, but not against the living dead. Of course it works, it's a blunt object, but can it cause terminal brain damage every single strike? There's an English expression, "If it ain't broke don't fix it." I think it applies to the warhammer which needed few changes or improvements from 1400-World War I.

@Panzieman
THe maul has more in common with a battle axe than it does with a warhammer. Swinging a 6lb maul vs a 2lb warhammer is worlds apart."
i concede to your all mighty wisdom....
i don't really care to lose an argument about a weapon i will never use.

interesting find i discovered. we all know the standard pickax is a horrible weapon.
but recently i found one that is easily handled in one hand. the "pick" part of the weapon only extends about 3-4 inches from the top and the entire weapon cant be any longer than two feet.(also discovered the point is noticeably wider and flatter than a standard "mini-pick")if you can find the name of this i would greatly appreciate it.
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Akerris
Akerris
24. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Feb 17 2010, 7:54 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 17 2010, 7:54 AM EST
"When i made this weapon, made the entire neck out of threaded steal Rod. The 3/4 inch nuts are made of galvanized steel, the cut washers on the head work to transfer the force over a smaller surface. i designed the whole weapon based on the idea of caving in someone's skull.

But before i can claim this, I am going to test the weapon out first. what can i used to simulate a zombie head? what makes this zombie killing certified?

@Panzieman
He has a very good point. If you ever wanna see what he means, just head to a large home depot and check out the gardening section, or ask for a 6lb head sledge hammer."
Start with a melon and go from there.
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CyprusBill
CyprusBill
25. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Feb 17 2010, 9:49 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 17 2010, 9:49 PM EST
"Cold Steel Makes a fantastic warhammer for $65 bucks and its only 2.5 lbs

http://www.coldsteel.com/warhammer.html

watch the tail end of the video."
I happen to have the C.S. warhammer. It's not that heavy. The handle is ash, so it's light but strong. And the head isn't that heavy either. Not a bad weapon. I agree with everyone about the spike though. Too easy to maybe get stuck..
Look up the Cold Steel Mace. Now that's a mean, sexy beast! I'll have to post some picks of both.
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Akerris
Akerris
26. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Feb 18 2010, 7:54 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 18 2010, 7:54 AM EST
"I happen to have the C.S. warhammer. It's not that heavy. The handle is ash, so it's light but strong. And the head isn't that heavy either. Not a bad weapon. I agree with everyone about the spike though. Too easy to maybe get stuck..
Look up the Cold Steel Mace. Now that's a mean, sexy beast! I'll have to post some picks of both."
Sigh... The spike is supposed to get stuck! That's how it causes damage. If you can't figure out when to use the hammer vs the spike then you have bigger problems than the weapon you're carrying. By the way, maces usually are heavier and shorter than a warhammer. In fact the warhammer was designed to replace the mace, read the article.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
27. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
May 28 2010, 4:04 PM EDT | Post edited: May 28 2010, 4:04 PM EDT
Dang I missed a good conversation on one of my favorite subjects.... :-( Do you find this valuable?    
WILLINGGandABLE
WILLINGGandABLE
28. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Jun 8 2010, 6:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 8 2010, 6:00 PM EDT
I'm bugging out quickly and although I have all the food and water provisions in my bag (plus enough ammo) I haven't organised my melee weapons

I take the spear head off (it's practical because I can hold it and use it like a knife and in the future it will offer me a pole weapon) and put in my bug. Then I grab my hatchet and hang it from my belt. Both of these are gonna be usefull tools and weapons.

My medium sized sword is in its sheath and I hang it horrizontaly from my bag. I take my gun (lets say an AK) and head for the door.

Next to the door I see my warhammer

What do I do?
Where do I put it?
I can't carry it neither vertically nor horizontally because I have to pass through a quite small corridor
It is not an indispensabble tool
It could get stuck in a skull, even with a blunt strike, so I might be forced to leave it anyway while I'm fleeing
I wont be able to use it in close quarters

What do I do?

What do I do?
I leave the warhammer behind
Simple
What would you do ?
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
29. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Jun 9 2010, 12:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 9 2010, 12:59 PM EDT
"I'm bugging out quickly and although I have all the food and water provisions in my bag (plus enough ammo) I haven't organised my melee weapons

I take the spear head off (it's practical because I can hold it and use it like a knife and in the future it will offer me a pole weapon) and put in my bug. Then I grab my hatchet and hang it from my belt. Both of these are gonna be usefull tools and weapons.

My medium sized sword is in its sheath and I hang it horrizontaly from my bag. I take my gun (lets say an AK) and head for the door.

Next to the door I see my warhammer

What do I do?
Where do I put it?
I can't carry it neither vertically nor horizontally because I have to pass through a quite small corridor
It is not an indispensabble tool
It could get stuck in a skull, even with a blunt strike, so I might be forced to leave it anyway while I'm fleeing
I wont be able to use it in close quarters

What do I do?

What do I do?
I leave the warhammer behind
Simple
What would you do ?"
Personally... I would put it through a belt loop, like it was designed to be carried.

Also just for the record, using a melee weapon in a tight space is always an issue. If the space is small enough to impede a warhammer for someone who has trained with it( you do train don't you?) then it's too small for anything but a knife or firearm. If you want to be able to fight in tight quarters, you have to train... period. There is no miracle weapon that is better than every other weapon. Katana's were great because of the warriors wielding them, same for the gladius, longbow, shaolin spade, long spear, halberd, etc.

You don't like the warhammer, then fine. Good luck keeping your blade sharp for all those perfect beheading strokes you plan on dealing, or keeping your crowbar from sticking in a skull.
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WILLINGGandABLE
WILLINGGandABLE
30. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Jun 10 2010, 5:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2010, 5:15 PM EDT
You can put it in a belt loop only if it is an one-handed warhammer
An one handed warhammer is a waste of time. The only difference it has from a claw hammer is that it has a bigger spike making it easier to get stuck. And that is something you don't want when you are already at 67cm and the next zombie comes at you.

Now you may know more than me about warhammers but what you said means you dont know that much about swords. Modern blades are easy to mantain and I can easily use a 80cm blade at corridor 1m wide. Can you do that with a 2handed warhammer?
Also you dont need perfect beheadings: just cut enough through the skull or sever the spinal cord. Just a good thrust can cut the connection between two discs in more than one ways.
Lastly I wont use a crowbar to penetrate a skull. A boar spear can do that without getting stuck
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Ninjakatana98
31. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Jun 30 2010, 1:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 30 2010, 1:17 PM EDT
I am actually making one sometime soon. I take a 7 inch long nail point (0.4 in diameter) and hammer it through a 2 by 4 thats been cut shorter and a little bit thinner. I then get one of those kitchen mallets and attach the head to the top. then i carve it a comfy handle, wrap it in rope, then duct tape ( or a better sub if i can find one. Ex: baseball bat handle) There is my homemade warhammer. I'll post some tests when i get it done. Do you find this valuable?    
zachy_vengeance
zachy_vengeance
32. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Jun 30 2010, 3:11 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 30 2010, 3:11 PM EDT
I wouldn't trust my life to a 2x4 with nails and kitchenware attached to it that was made by a 12 year old with the username "Ninjakatana98." Do you find this valuable?    

Ninjakatana98
33. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Jul 3 2010, 2:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 3 2010, 2:13 AM EDT
You dont have to. And nice logic/guess on the age. Do you find this valuable?    
Akerris
Akerris
34. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Jul 3 2010, 6:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Jul 3 2010, 6:42 AM EDT
"You can put it in a belt loop only if it is an one-handed warhammer
An one handed warhammer is a waste of time. The only difference it has from a claw hammer is that it has a bigger spike making it easier to get stuck. And that is something you don't want when you are already at 67cm and the next zombie comes at you.

Now you may know more than me about warhammers but what you said means you dont know that much about swords. Modern blades are easy to mantain and I can easily use a 80cm blade at corridor 1m wide. Can you do that with a 2handed warhammer?
Also you dont need perfect beheadings: just cut enough through the skull or sever the spinal cord. Just a good thrust can cut the connection between two discs in more than one ways.
Lastly I wont use a crowbar to penetrate a skull. A boar spear can do that without getting stuck"
.......At least in Beacon the noobs shut up and take direction.....
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WILLINGGandABLE
WILLINGGandABLE
35. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Jul 13 2010, 2:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Jul 13 2010, 2:37 PM EDT
".......At least in Beacon the noobs shut up and take direction....."
I am terribly sorry but I am not sure I understood your comment. Am I supposed to be the noob? Could you please rephrase so that I can be sure I didn't misunderstand?
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Ready_For_Z-Day
Ready_For_Z-Day
36. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Nov 15 2010, 8:48 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 15 2010, 8:48 PM EST
Aren't mauls very heavy and harder to carry around for said reason? Do you find this valuable?    
White76Knight
White76Knight
37. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Apr 18 2011, 11:41 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 18 2011, 11:53 AM EDT
"The only design flaws i see with a "spike" type weapon of some sort is this, the Spike it self is only effective so long as the spike is swung out front, now on the other hand a weapon designed like a baseball bat/mace, has a universal angle of atack. Plus idk if u have ever used a spike, but the spike end can get stuck, and wastes precious seconds that may mean your life!

now on the warhammer style of weapon, yes the hammer will be devistasting, as well as the maul. But it still is a directional weapon. all be it, u can use ether side while swinging ether direction, it still has only two striking surfaces."
My apologies for the necro-post, but I've only just stumbled on this thread.

@Mecamouser - I think you may be overstating the difficulty in using a directional weapon. Yes something like a warhammer only has two striking surfaces, the hammer and the spike, but in most such weapons the contour of the handle causes one or the other of these surfaces to be oriented in the right direction automatically. Just look at any ordinary household hammer, the handle is not perfectly round, it is oblong in cross section with the long axis of the oblong lined up with the long axis of the striking head.

Should you have a weapon with a round handle it should be fairly easy to reshape it. If it is one inch or less in outer diameter, just run filler material up the front and back edge of the handle (thin strips of wood, leather, whatever) then cordwrap or hockey tape to keep it in place. If it is more than an inch you may be able to carve/sand/file/grind down the sides until you get the right shape, which should be 3/4" to 1" across the short axis, and 1" to 1-1/4" along the long axis. Hope that made sense.

And besides, its not like the "flat" of the hammerhead is padded for safety or anything. Even striking something with less than perfect orientation is still gonna leave a hell of a dent.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
38. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Apr 18 2011, 2:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 18 2011, 2:18 PM EDT
"Now you may know more than me about warhammers but what you said means you dont know that much about swords. Modern blades are easy to mantain and I can easily use a 80cm blade at corridor 1m wide. Can you do that with a 2handed warhammer?
Also you dont need perfect beheadings: just cut enough through the skull or sever the spinal cord. Just a good thrust can cut the connection between two discs in more than one ways.
Lastly I wont use a crowbar to penetrate a skull. A boar spear can do that without getting stuck"
Actually I tutor sword combat and own/use several.
I can use a two-handed hammer in a 1m corridor, I can also use it one handed if needed. When I said any weapon needs practice to be used in tight spaces, it was from personal experience and training.

So, you are saying that it doesn't matter of you can't behead as long as you can make an even more difficult strike between the vertebrae with the tip of the weapon?
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trophykiller
trophykiller
39. RE: MMM...i love the warhammer
Apr 18 2011, 6:49 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 18 2011, 6:49 PM EDT
1. Warhammer = win.

2. Any opinions on my home made warhammer(actually a morningstar)?

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/photos/album/180395/TK%27s+album/photo/10890012/TK%27s+warhammer+4

3. I would also like thoughts on the jackhawk.

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/photos/album/180395/TK%27s+album/photo/11998116/TK%27s+jackhawk.
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