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s1creamer
s1creamer
comments on medications
Oct 28 2009, 2:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2009, 2:00 AM EDT
I realize there are different laws from the US to the UK, so I'm assuming the controlled substances you list are either legal for everyone over there, or you have some sort of professional access to them. Having said that I'm still gonna nitpick your list, cause I'm bored.
1 The electrolyte powder, wouldn't it be cheaper and maybe easier to go with a packet or two of sugar, good for diabetics as well.
2 Ibuprofen, I know you've got codeine for major pain, but if you run out its a lot harder on the system to load up massive doses of ibprofun than say naproxin. Do big enough doses of ibuprofen for very long you'll end up puking blood, but if you need to travel on broken/ badly sprained limbs, recomended dosages of otc pain meds won't work,(speak from experience).
I guess I really don't disagree with anything you've got, since its all personal preference and you've got something to treat all the major problems,, but I'm curious what your list would look like if you were limited to otc meds. Do you find this valuable?    
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s1creamer
s1creamer
1. RE: comments on medications
Oct 28 2009, 2:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 28 2009, 2:05 AM EDT
Almost forgot, AED's as distinguished from separate defibrillators are super easy to use. They've even got em now that give voice instructions instead of having to read the little instruction cartoon on the case. I'm guessing EFR is first responsder of some sort in the UK and you might have seen the bigger more versatile setups where the juice is from a separate machine by the diagnostics, but thats so cardiologists can do stuff, the little AED's the just work for V fib are super easy to use, and I recommend amature's at least give it a try, all kinds of safety features prevent it from doing harm, and they might do it right and save someone. Do you find this valuable?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
2. RE: comments on medications
Jun 10 2010, 7:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2010, 7:59 PM EDT
"I realize there are different laws from the US to the UK, so I'm assuming the controlled substances you list are either legal for everyone over there, or you have some sort of professional access to them. Having said that I'm still gonna nitpick your list, cause I'm bored.
1 The electrolyte powder, wouldn't it be cheaper and maybe easier to go with a packet or two of sugar, good for diabetics as well.
2 Ibuprofen, I know you've got codeine for major pain, but if you run out its a lot harder on the system to load up massive doses of ibprofun than say naproxin. Do big enough doses of ibuprofen for very long you'll end up puking blood, but if you need to travel on broken/ badly sprained limbs, recomended dosages of otc pain meds won't work,(speak from experience).
I guess I really don't disagree with anything you've got, since its all personal preference and you've got something to treat all the major problems,, but I'm curious what your list would look like if you were limited to otc meds."
Wow. Sorry I didn't reply before. I completely missed this thread.

Anyway.

1: electrolyte powder is more than just sugar. It's actually got various salts in it as well. Your idea is more tasty, but this is more effective.
2: naproxen was considered, but the incidences of side effects are slightly higher, so I went with the less severe ones. But rather than dose up one just one med, I would rotate the stack. So if you had Ibuprofen at noon, you could have the para/codeine at two. I have slightly different dosing tables than the back of the boxes, because of my pharmacy training. :)

Everything on the list is either GS (general sale, no pharmacy needed) or P (pharmacy, no prescription). The only "controlled substances" are going to be the Buccastem and Imigran 50. They are POM, prescription only medicine. Do you find this valuable?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
3. RE: comments on medications
Jun 10 2010, 8:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2010, 8:00 PM EDT
"Almost forgot, AED's as distinguished from separate defibrillators are super easy to use. They've even got em now that give voice instructions instead of having to read the little instruction cartoon on the case. I'm guessing EFR is first responsder of some sort in the UK and you might have seen the bigger more versatile setups where the juice is from a separate machine by the diagnostics, but thats so cardiologists can do stuff, the little AED's the just work for V fib are super easy to use, and I recommend amature's at least give it a try, all kinds of safety features prevent it from doing harm, and they might do it right and save someone."
EFR is the CPR/First Aid course run by PADI, the scuba diving association. The AED I am looking at is the all-in-one machine. I am not a cardiologist. :) Do you find this valuable?    
A_Don
A_Don
4. RE: comments on medications
Jun 10 2010, 9:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2010, 8:08 PM EDT
Most electrolytes you need are easily found in salt and other compounds, carrying around electrolyte packets to me sounds a bit silly but it might come in handy so I wouldn't rule it out.
 Do you find this valuable?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
5. RE: comments on medications
Jun 11 2010, 1:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2010, 1:00 PM EDT
"Most electrolytes you need are easily found in salt and other compounds, carrying around electrolyte packets to me sounds a bit silly but i might come in handy so I wouldn't rule it out.
"
The packets have everything in one place? Why so silly? Do you find this valuable?    
A_Don
A_Don
6. RE: comments on medications
Jun 11 2010, 8:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2010, 8:18 PM EDT
"The packets have everything in one place? Why so silly?"
Because you can get virtually all the electrolytes you need from ordinary water. Electrolytes are substances with free ions such as sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium. Unless you drink distilled water you get nearly all or all of the following above dissolved into the water. Do you find this valuable?    
Freelancer47
Freelancer47
7. RE: comments on medications
Jun 11 2010, 10:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 11 2010, 10:01 PM EDT
Unless the Nurse I know is wrong I was told that a thimble of Gatorade is all you need to replenish your electrolites.

Back when we had people falling over due to heat exhaustion (I was one once) we used to give them "Half & 1/2"

1/2 ice cold water mixed with 1/2 Gatorade/Power-Aid.

It seemed to work. Do you find this valuable?    
PedroAsani
PedroAsani
8. RE: comments on medications
Aug 15 2010, 11:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 15 2010, 11:42 AM EDT
"Unless the Nurse I know is wrong I was told that a thimble of Gatorade is all you need to replenish your electrolites.Back when we had people falling over due to heat exhaustion (I was one once) we used to give them "Half & 1/2"1/2 ice cold water mixed with 1/2 Gatorade/Power-Aid.It seemed to work."
Can't believe I missed this.I'm guessing the nurse was quoting the numbers that normal, healthy people need when they are on a balanced diet, etc.

Rehydration packs are for those suffering heatstroke, malnutrition, etc. Do you find this valuable?    

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