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Nikk_G.
Nikk_G.
Bow and Arrows
Nov 2 2009, 10:45 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 10:45 PM EST
Has noone ever considered using a Bow and Arrow; such as a Crossbow, Compact Bow, or even a Yew Bow? They have been used for hundreds of years, and still today. However, a bow will need occasional maintenance, and takes quite some difficulty and time to master. Despite this, many pros make this a fine-tuned long range weapon.
This weapon is very useful for many reasons:
-Provides a clean, straight shot (if fired correctly.)
-Silent, light, and easy to carry.
-Arrows can be retrieved multiple times after use.
Overall, a bow and a quiver of arrows could be the most efficiant weapon one could use in the long run. HOWEVER, this is a personal opinion, and many of you may not agree with me. I just thought of pointing out this unlisted weapon. Comments?
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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
1. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 2 2009, 11:08 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 11:08 PM EST
"Has noone ever considered using a Bow and Arrow; such as a Crossbow, Compact Bow, or even a Yew Bow? They have been used for hundreds of years, and still today. However..."
Yes, several.

First: I noticed you are new. Welcome to the ZSDW, the only interesting place for me to surf the web when I'm at work.

Second: search bar. Learn to use it. Here's a few links:

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/3203401/cross+bow

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/2568485/Bows+vs+Guns

There's your homework. Enjoy.

Hey ZSDW, anyone here an owner of a Recurve or Composite bow? Crossbow? Bolt Gun?
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inu-dude25
inu-dude25
2. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 2 2009, 11:16 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 11:16 PM EST
Couple issues with the OP's post besides its redundancy.

A) Arrows aren't a straight, smooth shot. They flex constantly and tend to follow an arc pattern, as does almost any projectile under the influence of physics.

B) A bow and quiver of arrows is no where near as easy to carry as a handgun and a couple of mags, or a machete, or a baseball bat, or your mind.

C) If you've got real arrows and they miss the target, then yes you could try retrieving them. However, if you have no qualms with going and digging one form a zombie's eye socket you may want to look into getting help.

D) As much as I like bows, they aren't nearly as easy to develop proficiency with, IMO, as a with gun or a baseball bat. Much like a real katana, if you have one and can handle it properly, then utilize it by all means. But, I think that applies to very few people, something that other weapons aren't hindered by.
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Sega_Rihdan
Sega_Rihdan
3. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 2 2009, 11:23 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 11:23 PM EST
Nikk, i know your new to the site so let me start by saying you should check out some of the older posts. the bow and arrow has come up in multiple cases and has been discounted as a effective weapon for a few simple reasons.

1. it takes years to be able to fire a bow and arrow with enough accuracy to hit the head of a moving target, and even more training to be able to do that with a bow with enough draw weight to be able to puncture the brain.

2. the crossbow, no matter what version you get is very bulky. usually being much bulkier then a rifle or gun of any kind, it will get in the way of movement, making stealth much more difficult. regular bows are rather bulky as well when strung, and when they aren't it's not very practical to be running around with an unstrung bow if that is your primary weapon.

3. if you have fired an arrow or crossbow bolt, it's not exactly recommended to use that same arrow or bolt again. using it again may cause stress on the bolt or arrow, possibly causing stress enough to destroy the arrow possibly causing injury to you or someone else.

the most effective weapon to use in the long run is your own brain. stop thinking about what the best weapon would be but how you can use any weapon you get a hold of. what happens if you become a master with a bow and arrow and you get caught in a zombie outbreak without one? you spent all your time practicing with a bow that you didn't get any firearms training, no hand to hand combat training, etc, etc.

"while an ace is great, a jack of all trades can deal with any s*%t coming his way."
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Sega_Rihdan
Sega_Rihdan
4. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 2 2009, 11:25 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 11:25 PM EST
"Hey ZSDW, anyone here an owner of a Recurve or Composite bow? Crossbow? Bolt Gun?"
i own a 35lb draw weight recurve bow as well as a 80lb draw weight crossbow. i have some training with them. why do you ask?
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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
5. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 2 2009, 11:44 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 2 2009, 11:44 PM EST
"i own a 35lb draw weight recurve bow as well as a 80lb draw weight crossbow. i have some training with them. why do you ask?"
Just wondering if anyone had hands on experience with them to help the OP...
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Nikk_G.
Nikk_G.
6. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 3 2009, 1:28 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2009, 1:28 AM EST
Thank you for correcting and notifying me of existing topics. Next time I will check the search bar before posting anything. Thank you for the support of my FNG status! Do you find this valuable?    

ChewingTobbaco
7. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 3 2009, 2:20 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2009, 2:20 AM EST
wow were running short on topic's I see....lol just like hollywood. Do you find this valuable?    
Freelancer47
Freelancer47
8. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 3 2009, 3:22 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2009, 3:22 AM EST
@Nikk: Hey, no problem. I'm here to help

@ChewingTobbaco: yes, true. You, Nikk, Me... there are several threads that get 'Newly Made' when there's already a thread that's not 2 weeks old that can get a fresh life with a fresh question.
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ChewingTobbaco
9. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 3 2009, 3:35 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2009, 3:35 AM EST
Yea maybe some better organization here or like a informational traing for new people could fix this. Do you find this valuable?    
ShotGunorBust
ShotGunorBust
10. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 3 2009, 3:39 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2009, 3:39 AM EST
err ahahaha ne one who hasnt tried to shoot an arrow should really pick one up! there hella cheap now on craigslist. u can find any bow for $80-800+. i own 2 bows now 1 recurve 20lbs, and a compound 70lbs with 35lb hold.
arrows are by far the most expensive thing ever! 60bucks for half dozen.
ammo is cheaper soo yaa u decide.BUT dun give up the bow and arrow for sake of space.think? what if you were on a route and u encounter 1 or 2 zombies who hasnt spotted you yet. u could takem out with silence.
ive been practicing ounce a week for the past whole summer. (im no olympic archer) but with the compound(huntingbow) 20-50yards i can hit a head size target EZ no prob. but 50+yards of course it gets harder.
with more power arrows fly straighter, farther, more accurate, even has enough force to fly in and out of a skull and continue another 40yards. soo retrieving your arrow is a dumb idea...
with a traditional style bow hitting a head size target would be a challenge.
all im saying is the new bows(compounds) is as easy as a gun seriously. point and shoot.


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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
11. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 3 2009, 3:42 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2009, 3:42 AM EST
Training for new people: Click the 'New to our site? Click here' button on the home page. It gives a very useful intro to the site. Don't worry, I didn't click on it until my first month here.

Organization: Yeah, it could be better. Fully agreed it's multiple things.
A) newcomers making new threads (see my previous post)
B) Mods & Admins. They're overworked & not paid on this site. It's stricktly voluntary to be either or, and this site has A LOT of threads.
C) Trolls. They like to visit the site often. There's a BOLO that Admins, Mods, and frequent contributors are aware of... that in of itself is a lot of work. For example, see some of the threads on the 'Hall of Shame' Category. That's just skimming the top.
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tooling
tooling
12. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 3 2009, 8:32 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 3 2009, 8:32 PM EST
"Yes, several.

First: I noticed you are new. Welcome to the ZSDW, the only interesting place for me to surf the web when I'm at work.

Second: search bar. Learn to use it. Here's a few links:

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/3203401/cross+bow

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/2568485/Bows+vs+Guns

There's your homework. Enjoy.

Hey ZSDW, anyone here an owner of a Recurve or Composite bow? Crossbow? Bolt Gun?"
I own both a compound and a recurve and have shot recurve, olympic (recurve with sights) and compound competitivly. Iv shot a recurve with pull anywhere from 10 to 50 and compound from around 20 to 70 with all types of sights, arrow rests and releases.
With that said i wouldnt use a bow. Even with shooting for years im going to say head size accuracy i would limit to around 30 yards with sights with a recurve unless you have A LOT of practice way less.
Also retrieving arrows a lot of times wont work. Anything with a decent pull to it 30 or 35 and above will burry arrows and if you hit anything solid smash the tips into the shafts or just bend or break them.
Also shooting a bow all day will kill your arms and chest, fingers and arms too if you dont know what youre doing.
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AvelC
13. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 5 2009, 8:56 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 8:56 AM EST
I also have compund bow which is really effective. If u can do your own arrows from wood and have place where zombies doesnt get, bow is VERY good choise, because you dont have to waste your ammo and its accuracy, Do you find this valuable?    
tooling
tooling
14. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 5 2009, 7:21 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 7:21 PM EST
"I also have compund bow which is really effective. If u can do your own arrows from wood and have place where zombies doesnt get, bow is VERY good choise, because you dont have to waste your ammo and its accuracy,"
Bad idea. You can not shoot wooden arrows out of a compound they break and shoot into your arm.have to use either aluminum or carbon arrows. For a compound you mu Making arrows with a recurve with high pull would probibly do the same im not sure. But making youre own arrows sure sounds like a good idea right? In reality it could kill you.
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inu-dude25
inu-dude25
15. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 5 2009, 7:29 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 7:29 PM EST
"I also have compund bow which is really effective. If u can do your own arrows from wood and have place where zombies doesnt get, bow is VERY good choise, because you dont have to waste your ammo and its accuracy,"
Ugh, not to be rude, but please know what you're talking about before posting. There are many great people on this site with tons of info, sometimes the most helpful thing you can do is just listen.

As Tooling mentioned, your suggestion could seriously injure people. Do you really want someone to go to the ER because you just put out an idea as fact without checking to see if it really works?

Remember, this site is not just for preparing against an improbable zombie apocalpyse, it's about any disaster. Misinformation on here could be used in real-life. If you mislead someone, intentionally or not, you could kill them!

If they'd taken such a suggestion and got shot in the arm, an infection from the wound could be fatal, especially in a disaster scenario.
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tooling
tooling
16. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 5 2009, 7:46 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 7:46 PM EST
"Ugh, not to be rude, but please know what you're talking about before posting. There are many great people on this site with tons of info, sometimes the most helpful thing you can do is just listen.

As Tooling mentioned, your suggestion could seriously injure people. Do you really want someone to go to the ER because you just put out an idea as fact without checking to see if it really works?

Remember, this site is not just for preparing against an improbable zombie apocalpyse, it's about any disaster. Misinformation on here could be used in real-life. If you mislead someone, intentionally or not, you could kill them!

If they'd taken such a suggestion and got shot in the arm, an infection from the wound could be fatal, especially in a disaster scenario. "
True although i guess most people dont realize you can make arrows like that they think if indians can i can i guess. Its not to put you down just be careful and try to think things all the way through.
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nate121
nate121
17. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 5 2009, 7:55 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 5 2009, 7:55 PM EST
most modren bows will turn a homemade arrow (or a wooden arrow for that matter) into a pile of spliters,dude

and i have hunting bow i can't think of using it for this reson (60-70 pound draw)
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tooling
tooling
18. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 6 2009, 1:26 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 1:26 AM EST
"most modren bows will turn a homemade arrow (or a wooden arrow for that matter) into a pile of spliters,dude

and i have hunting bow i can't think of using it for this reson (60-70 pound draw)"
exactly anyone who has spent a lot o time shooting bows realizes how tiring it is. It seems easy and it probibly wont get you winded but it will kill your arms and chest if you do it al day.
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AvelC
19. RE: Bow and Arrows
Nov 6 2009, 2:26 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 6 2009, 2:27 PM EST
"Ugh, not to be rude, but please know what you're talking about before posting. There are many great people on this site with tons of info, sometimes the most helpful thing you can do is just listen.

As Tooling mentioned, your suggestion could seriously injure people. Do you really want someone to go to the ER because you just put out an idea as fact without checking to see if it really works?

Remember, this site is not just for preparing against an improbable zombie apocalpyse, it's about any disaster. Misinformation on here could be used in real-life. If you mislead someone, intentionally or not, you could kill them!

If they'd taken such a suggestion and got shot in the arm, an infection from the wound could be fatal, especially in a disaster scenario. "
I have shooted wooden arrows bought from shop, and also have shooted my own made arrows. And usually hunting compund bows are 48lb like mine, i think.

It works well, and i havent said u have to try it. And why no one couldnt be able to do anything? I have got alot of comments that i cant do something etc... I live in countryside and have to be able to do lot of things and learned to use tools right way and so on. In this case you have to choose right wood and have to be able to use lathe, also when doing arrow heads.

But, do not use wooden arrows, happy now?
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