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felmity786
felmity786
full plate
Nov 15 2009, 6:10 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 15 2009, 6:10 PM EST
full plate armor is best because it is the most durable. also helmets can protect you from bites. 1  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
1. RE: full plate
Nov 15 2009, 6:16 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 15 2009, 6:16 PM EST
"full plate armor is best because it is the most durable. also helmets can protect you from bites."
I'm guessing you mean knights armour?

1. Have you got a set?
2. Do you know how heavy they are?
3. Do you have a squire to help you dress? You'll need one.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
2. RE: full plate
Nov 15 2009, 6:25 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 15 2009, 6:25 PM EST
"I'm guessing you mean knights armour?

1. Have you got a set?
2. Do you know how heavy they are?
3. Do you have a squire to help you dress? You'll need one. "
the sgt is right
He probably does means full plate, knights wore different sets depending on the purpose. Knight's armour could be any from the article.

Full plate weighs at least 65 lbs, and takes like 30 mins to don(put on), and 15 to remove with help. I've worn some to joust before, and I would never wear it on foot. PERIOD. It's hot, heavy, and hard to move in. It also has dozens of handy places to grab, making it aperfect way to package you as zed food.

Seriously I have a set, and I'll be leaving it behind on z-day.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
3. RE: full plate
Nov 15 2009, 6:33 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 15 2009, 6:33 PM EST
"the sgt is right
He probably does means full plate, knights wore different sets depending on the purpose. Knight's armour could be any from the article.

Full plate weighs at least 65 lbs, and takes like 30 mins to don(put on), and 15 to remove with help. I've worn some to joust before, and I would never wear it on foot. PERIOD. It's hot, heavy, and hard to move in. It also has dozens of handy places to grab, making it aperfect way to package you as zed food.

Seriously I have a set, and I'll be leaving it behind on z-day.
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You have a set? Thought they cost a fortune?
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
4. RE: full plate
Nov 15 2009, 6:34 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 15 2009, 6:34 PM EST
"Full plate weighs at least 65 lbs, and takes like 30 mins to don(put on), and 15 to remove with help. I've worn some to joust before"
I do feel that its worth pointing out that the armor worm in combat and the armor worn in sporting events are not the same monster.

Sporting armor is thicker to prevent accidental injury in combat games where mobility is not as big of a factor. Well made combat armor would have been around 45 to 50 lbs.

ponder on mobility though for a second and consider how much gear a modern solider has to lug into combat.. some modern load outs can get up to 80lbs. Food for thought.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
5. RE: full plate
Nov 15 2009, 6:36 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 15 2009, 6:36 PM EST
"I do feel that its worth pointing out that the armor worm in combat and the armor worn in sporting events are not the same monster.

Sporting armor is thicker to prevent accidental injury in combat games where mobility is not as big of a factor. Well made combat armor would have been around 45 to 50 lbs.

ponder on mobility though for a second and consider how much gear a modern solider has to lug into combat.. some modern load outs can get up to 80lbs. Food for thought."
Yes but you don't fight with your bergen on - if you get ambushed you just throw it off.

Besides - soldiers are fit and carrying all kinds of weaponary - things people like myself can't have.

*sniff*
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
6. RE: full plate
Nov 15 2009, 8:49 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 15 2009, 8:49 PM EST
"Yes but you don't fight with your bergen on - if you get ambushed you just throw it off.

Besides - soldiers are fit and carrying all kinds of weaponary - things people like myself can't have.

*sniff* "
Yeah it is nice being able to go to a store and just walk out with a pistol.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
7. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 9:36 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 9:39 AM EST
"You have a set? Thought they cost a fortune? "
Yes, I actually made and sold medieval armour online for a little while, But nobody wanted to pay the prices for combat ready armour. Especially when they could go to other websites and buy stuff that looked real even if it wasn't. So I moved on to other things.
.edit, spelling
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
8. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 9:39 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 9:39 AM EST
"Yeah it is nice being able to go to a store and just walk out with a pistol."
Yes it would...
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
9. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 9:42 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 9:42 AM EST
"Yes, I actually made and sold medieval armour online for a little while, But nobody wanted to pay the prices for combat ready armour. Especially when they could go to other websites and buy stuff that looked real even if it wasn't. So I moved on to other things.
.edit, spelling"
Well you know what people are like now - china.

The government pulled that **** on the bloody troops. Brought bloody ****** APC vehicles that were blown to pieces by the taliban bombs. But after public support, we soon made them buy some half decent kit.

But anyway sorry about your buisness mate but I still wouldn't wear it. Mobility and speed are the key here.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
10. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 9:54 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 9:54 AM EST
"I do feel that its worth pointing out that the armor worm in combat and the armor worn in sporting events are not the same monster.

Sporting armor is thicker to prevent accidental injury in combat games where mobility is not as big of a factor. Well made combat armor would have been around 45 to 50 lbs.

ponder on mobility though for a second and consider how much gear a modern solider has to lug into combat.. some modern load outs can get up to 80lbs. Food for thought."
Full plate and combat plate are two different animals. Full plate was usually only used in the sporting events and parades. Combat armour was just partial plate with a high quality suit of chain mail underneath. The reasoning behind this was so that a man that was un-horsed wasn't stuck, it was still manueverable enough to remount a horse, or fight on foot. Full plate restricts movement, and vision quite a bit. Even with practice it is kinda unweildy. I don't care for combat plate either, I still feel weighed down, even though I've practiced quite a bit for show tourneys, and foot events.
Of coure that is just how I feel, I have a friend who swears by combat plate, and can move just fine in it on foot.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
11. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 10:08 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 10:08 AM EST
"Full plate and combat plate are two different animals. Full plate was usually only used in the sporting events and parades. Combat armour was just partial plate with a high quality suit of chain mail underneath. The reasoning behind this was so that a man that was un-horsed wasn't stuck, it was still manueverable enough to remount a horse, or fight on foot. Full plate restricts movement, and vision quite a bit. Even with practice it is kinda unweildy. I don't care for combat plate either, I still feel weighed down, even though I've practiced quite a bit for show tourneys, and foot events.
Of coure that is just how I feel, I have a friend who swears by combat plate, and can move just fine in it on foot."
Yes but depends what scenario it is. If you are on foot I for one will not able to walk more than a mile in all that armour no matter how lighter it is. I you are trying to escape you will be ****** unless you are incredible fit. Then again, whatever makes you happy I suppose.

I'm just wearing my combats.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
12. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 10:18 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 10:18 AM EST
"Yes but depends what scenario it is. If you are on foot I for one will not able to walk more than a mile in all that armour no matter how lighter it is. I you are trying to escape you will be ****** unless you are incredible fit. Then again, whatever makes you happy I suppose.

I'm just wearing my combats. "
I have ring mail, It is only about 15lbs, is silent when you move, and still has the protection of metal. Nothing shy of a tiger is gonna bite through it. I have steel pauldrons(soulders) and braves that I've lined with leather to keep it silent. I also rigged all the pieces of armour that i'll wear on z-day to be easily released if I'm grabbed or it seems I might be overwhelmed. I've literally built a set for z-day.

The big thing here, like any other equipment you'll trust your life too, is practice. I've practiced breaking holds, and deflecting strikes. Deflecting is one of the most important things to learn, armour is not about being able to just take any strike. It's about being able to survive the errant strike you didn't see coming. Even the toughest plates can be ruined by a two handed strike from a pike, or even a sword.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
13. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 10:20 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 10:20 AM EST
"I have ring mail, It is only about 15lbs, is silent when you move, and still has the protection of metal. Nothing shy of a tiger is gonna bite through it. I have steel pauldrons(soulders) and braves that I've lined with leather to keep it silent. I also rigged all the pieces of armour that i'll wear on z-day to be easily released if I'm grabbed or it seems I might be overwhelmed. I've literally built a set for z-day.

The big thing here, like any other equipment you'll trust your life too, is practice. I've practiced breaking holds, and deflecting strikes. Deflecting is one of the most important things to learn, armour is not about being able to just take any strike. It's about being able to survive the errant strike you didn't see coming. Even the toughest plates can be ruined by a two handed strike from a pike, or even a sword. "
*Applause*
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
14. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 10:21 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 10:21 AM EST
"*Applause* "
Speech! Speech!
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
15. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 10:28 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 10:28 AM EST
"Speech! Speech! "
LOLZ.... What's left to say?
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timberrattler
timberrattler
16. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 10:50 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 10:50 AM EST
"full plate armor is best because it is the most durable. also helmets can protect you from bites."
Another fire and forget thread from felmity786.

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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
17. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 10:53 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 10:53 AM EST
"Another fire and forget thread from felmity786.

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Well its not too bad I suppose. I've learned a few things.
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DLOWTHEMAD
DLOWTHEMAD
18. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 11:15 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 11:15 AM EST
"Another fire and forget thread from felmity786.

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LOL still not a bad topic, people get all caught up in the "equipment makes the man" mentality. This is a good chance to re-iterate the need to do your homework, chose based on one's current abilities, and practice, practice, practice.

If you can't move in armour than your just canned zed chow.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
19. RE: full plate
Nov 17 2009, 11:17 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 17 2009, 11:17 AM EST
"LOL still not a bad topic, people get all caught up in the "equipment makes the man" mentality. This is a good chance to re-iterate the need to do your homework, chose based on one's current abilities, and practice, practice, practice.

If you can't move in armour than your just canned zed chow."
LOL!
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