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zombiekiller007
zombiekiller007
martial arts
Nov 25 2009, 2:05 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 25 2009, 2:05 PM EST
Altho i agree that martial arts prowess used agenst shamblers would be relitively futile; many weapons based arts would be benificial (ie. phillipine stick fighting, with a good set of eskrima sticks) would be lethal to uncle Zed. But one must not loose sight of the fact that, unfortunatly, it is human nature for our species to pray upon the week. Thus, you will need to be skilled enough to protect yourself from hostile humans as well as Zeds. Im 33, and have trained in several martial arts since i was 7 years old. I can tell you, nothing is full proof. iveseen grand masters get trounced by black belts, and black belts get trounced by boxers. It's all relative. Dont stop learning. Take a lot of different forms. Bruce lee and the MMA have the right idea, the more martial arts you know, and become profficant in, will make you more rounded, and thierfore better apt to servive a life or death encounter. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
SGTGerman
SGTGerman
1. RE: martial arts
Nov 25 2009, 2:16 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 25 2009, 2:16 PM EST
"Altho i agree that martial arts prowess used agenst shamblers would be relitively futile; many weapons based arts would be benificial (ie. phillipine stick fighting, with a good set of eskrima sticks) would be lethal to uncle Zed. But one must not loose sight of the fact that, unfortunatly, it is human nature for our species to pray upon the week. Thus, you will need to be skilled enough to protect yourself from hostile humans as well as Zeds. Im 33, and have trained in several martial arts since i was 7 years old. I can tell you, nothing is full proof. iveseen grand masters get trounced by black belts, and black belts get trounced by boxers. It's all relative. Dont stop learning. Take a lot of different forms. Bruce lee and the MMA have the right idea, the more martial arts you know, and become profficant in, will make you more rounded, and thierfore better apt to servive a life or death encounter."
Only I have with hand to hand combat and zeds - contact. If you accidently hit them in the jaw or scratch yourself your ******.

Good against human targets yes but still...
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Shieldmaster
Shieldmaster
2. RE: martial arts
Nov 25 2009, 9:50 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 25 2009, 9:50 PM EST
"Only I have with hand to hand combat and zeds - contact. If you accidently hit them in the jaw or scratch yourself your ******.

Good against human targets yes but still... "
That's where Gloves come in. There are biker gloves, like the ones I have, that are perfect for the job. They have very hard covering on the knuckles to protect from road abrasions when you slam into something or skid across the road.

Being pretty well rounded in martial arts myself I do agree with the OP. And yes Phillipino Stick/Knife Fighting is hard core, get ahold of any slender 2'-3' piece of anything and you have a weapon.
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wulfstahg
wulfstahg
3. RE: martial arts
Nov 26 2009, 8:49 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2009, 8:49 AM EST
I would recommend Krav Magau. Good for both people, weapons, and zeds. Basically a style to wreck anything what needs wrecking. Do you find this valuable?    
DevilNuts
DevilNuts
4. RE: martial arts
Nov 26 2009, 9:20 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2009, 9:24 AM EST
I studied Israeli Krav Maga for about a year in NJ. It is a very effective and easy system to learn.

Cool thing about Krav Maga is you can become proficient in a very short time, weeks even. But it is not a "traditional martial art." It is a system, not a discipline. If you are looking for inner peace or enlightenment, Krav Maga is not for you.

EDIT: Here is a link to the school I trained in. If you have a few minutes, check out the demo - it's pretty cool stuff. the guys in the video are mostly the instructors I trained under.

www.israelikrav.com

Enjoy!
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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
5. RE: martial arts
Nov 26 2009, 9:31 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2009, 9:33 AM EST
"I studied Israeli Krav Maga for about a year in NJ. It is a very effective and easy system to learn.

Cool thing about Krav Maga is you can become proficient in a very short time, weeks even. But it is not a "traditional martial art." It is a system, not a discipline. If you are looking for inner peace or enlightenment, Krav Maga is not for you.

EDIT: Here is a link to the school I trained in. If you have a few minutes, check out the demo - it's pretty cool stuff. the guys in the video are mostly the instructors I trained under.

www.israelikrav.com

Enjoy!
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Does Krav Maga allow for improvised weapons? I've heard different people say different things. I'll check the site.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
6. RE: martial arts
Nov 26 2009, 9:35 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2009, 9:35 AM EST
They train with all sorts of dummy weapons, if that's what you mean. Rubber firearms of every type imaginable, knives, umbrellas, batons, garrotes, and there are even techniques to defend against hand grenades or suicide bombers, although I never learned them.

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SasquatchJim
SasquatchJim
7. RE: martial arts
Nov 26 2009, 9:47 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2009, 9:50 AM EST
"They train with all sorts of dummy weapons, if that's what you mean. Rubber firearms of every type imaginable, knives, umbrellas, batons, garrotes, and there are even techniques to defend against hand grenades or suicide bombers, although I never learned them.

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Yeah, that's kinda what I meant. Thanks. 'Cause, I prefer a martial art that lets you use the world around you, not just your hands and feet (and elbow, head, knees, etc.)
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spamanninen
spamanninen
8. RE: martial arts
Nov 26 2009, 4:05 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2009, 4:05 PM EST
"I studied Israeli Krav Maga for about a year in NJ. It is a very effective and easy system to learn.

Cool thing about Krav Maga is you can become proficient in a very short time, weeks even. But it is not a "traditional martial art." It is a system, not a discipline. If you are looking for inner peace or enlightenment, Krav Maga is not for you.

EDIT: Here is a link to the school I trained in. If you have a few minutes, check out the demo - it's pretty cool stuff. the guys in the video are mostly the instructors I trained under.

www.israelikrav.com

Enjoy!
"
I thought about learning Krav Maga when I first got out of the Marines. I guess I kinda missed hurting my body a little. The only problem with Krav Maga I see is the lack of places that teach it. I couldnt find anywhere within 50 miles. The nearest place was almost75 miles away and working full time and having a family didnt allow that kind of drive time.

But of all the martial arts I looked at, Krav Maga is the one that caught my eye and definately something I would want to train in If it became more popular and spread out a little.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
9. RE: martial arts
Nov 26 2009, 5:01 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2009, 5:01 PM EST
It's growing. The reason you can hardly find it anywhere is because it has only been introduced in the US in the 1980's so there are not that many qualified instructors yet.

As it expands and more Kravists get instructor certified, you will see more gyms with Krav classes, and eventually Krav schools.
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Vivalamacster
Vivalamacster
10. RE: martial arts
Nov 26 2009, 5:17 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 26 2009, 5:17 PM EST
if you look on Youtube, Expert Village does some real basic lessons. Krav Maga is AWSOME! Do you find this valuable?    
CallsignPyro
CallsignPyro
11. RE: martial arts
Feb 16 2010, 11:48 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 16 2010, 11:48 AM EST
what i see is this this, zombie trys to get me & grabs my sleeve, i cross side kick him/her in the chest & send it flying across the room, then wind fall kick its head in, my sensi said that is the best way to do it if unarmed because you can get alot more power in your legs & alot more range Do you find this valuable?    
british_lion
british_lion
12. RE: martial arts
Mar 29 2010, 7:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2010, 7:15 PM EDT
I've been doing kali / FMA for a while. I've also done muay thai and some jujitsu, but predominatly kali. It has ity's limitations, but it would make an incredibly useful zombie fighting art. Stick fighting was used because the spanish forbade the fillipinos from fighting with swords - so many of the varied kali systems are sword oriented, whilst many others have become focused specifically on the sticks. You learn stick and knife drills first, then progress to unarmed and the more unusual weapons (improvised rolled up newspapers a la bourne), coins wrapped in handkerchiefs, throwing gravel and coins.

Traditionally, kali is trained with rattan sticks which have a slight springiness to them. The infamous 'deathmatches' used much harder wood which splinters a lot faster than rattan.

Advantages if you train regularly are the conditioning of muscles and joints used to swing, plus some serious coordination and balance. Balance you can learn in any martial art, but in kali you need to coordinate eg. a long range weapon in one hand, a short range weapon in the other, changing stance, moving, changing ranges etc. Sounds easy but it takes some getting used to!
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mudroll
mudroll
13. RE: martial arts
Mar 29 2010, 7:26 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2010, 7:26 PM EDT
"what i see is this this, zombie trys to get me & grabs my sleeve, i cross side kick him/her in the chest & send it flying across the room, then wind fall kick its head in, my sensi said that is the best way to do it if unarmed because you can get alot more power in your legs & alot more range"
Not to be pessimistic, but I highly doubt you could send a grown man flying across the room.
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CallsignPyro
CallsignPyro
14. RE: martial arts
Mar 30 2010, 12:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2010, 12:01 AM EDT
"Not to be pessimistic, but I highly doubt you could send a grown man flying across the room. "
ive already done it to my sensi, 10 feet from point of impact. its not that hard to do really.
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mudroll
mudroll
15. RE: martial arts
Mar 30 2010, 12:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2010, 12:09 AM EDT
"ive already done it to my sensi, 10 feet from point of impact. its not that hard to do really. "
Hmmm. Must be either I'm too weak, can't kick properly or the guys are too heavy.
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CallsignPyro
CallsignPyro
16. RE: martial arts
Mar 30 2010, 12:20 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2010, 12:20 AM EDT
"Hmmm. Must be either I'm too weak, can't kick properly or the guys are too heavy."
it took me awhile to get it right. where is your foot hitting when you kick, what part of the body
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brandon_a_boyer
brandon_a_boyer
17. RE: martial arts
Mar 30 2010, 1:35 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2010, 1:35 AM EDT
I'm sorry but you lost any legitimacy with the stun gun meditation comments. Kicking your "sensi" in the chest is not the same thing as attempting to kick a person who is intent on killing you.

Attempting to kick a person above waist level in a legitimate life or death fight is a farce. You leave yourself open and unbalanced, presenting opportunity for your opponent.

Stick with military martial arts, they are practical, and tested.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
18. RE: martial arts
Mar 30 2010, 4:13 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2010, 4:13 AM EDT
"ive already done it to my sensi, 10 feet from point of impact. its not that hard to do really. "
Sorry, I'm gonna need to see a video of that to believe it. Ten feet is far for a kick.
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british_lion
british_lion
19. RE: martial arts
Mar 30 2010, 12:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2010, 12:41 PM EDT
"...Attempting to kick a person above waist level in a legitimate life or death fight is a farce. You leave yourself open and unbalanced, presenting opportunity for your opponent...."
I'd agree with brandon. Kicks should never really be above the knee and if used then the muay thai style shin to knee is better than using your foot. Feet are more fragile than hands if barefoot or lightly clad. The art of savate makes use of a whipping motion and utilises heavy footwear - it was 'developed' by french dockworkers wearing steel toecapped boots who would protect ship cargos. I've not practiced it enough to know how effective it is, but a lot of feet strike kicks are predominantly for scoring points in competitions. A noteable exception is the use of capoeira style kicking for use when you're on the ground and kicking to clear the path, but generally you'd have two hands and the other foot on the ground for stability.
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