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kinelta |
A Family Plan
Nov 25 2009, 8:31 PM EST
I finally got around to posting my plan.I would appreciate any holes that can be found and suggestions that can be made. I have kids that I want to survive to adulthood, and I don't want to have anything overlooked that can be corrected...or at least that I can be aware of. Have at it... 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you?
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timberrattler |
1. RE: A Family Plan
Nov 26 2009, 6:41 AM EST
Awesome kinelta! Just awesome.Let me start out by saying that the bravery that you convey in your plan is inspiring. No complaints or boo-hoos about the obvious hardships of transporting your children to your BOL. Let me tell everyone that my two children are 18 months apart and just a trip to Wal-Mart when they were still in diapers was a major undertaking. There are military veterans and tough guys galore here who would be reduced to tears if they had to deal with the stress an un-accompanied pregnant woman with three kids would have to endure. I'm sorry I don't have any critiques to dish out on this plan. Hell I learned a lot from it and was taking notes. You are a brave and resourceful woman kinelta. I am very much impressed. Do you find this valuable? |
spamanninen |
2. RE: A Family Plan
Nov 26 2009, 3:52 PM EST
Sounds pretty good. I also admire you I dont know how well my family would do without me but I would hope that my wife would be able to take the reigns as well as you plan on doing.Really the only problem I see is the long way to get to placed you plan on going. Hopefully you will be heading AWAY from highly populated areas and not going through any. Maybe you could look at some maps and plan a route using backwoods roads to get there before hand. Theres just too many variables that could go wrong for you on a 36 hour ride. The other thing I noticed was time to pray. I'm not mocking you I dont know what religion you are and I dont tell people that their religion is wrong. We wont really know who's right until death anyway. If you have certain times per day to pray it may have to be skipped sometimes till you get somewhere safe. Remember, living humans (well tolerant and non-ignorant ones) will give you your time and space to pray but I doubt zombies will wait till your done praying to attack. I only pray with my kids just before bedtime. Of course maybe whichever god you believe in will help you out if you stick to your schedule. I'm not sure but its just something that caught my eye. The good thing I see about trailers is that on most of them, they are high and you can disconnect the frong and back steps going into them. I live in a double wide on a foundation but have a permanent front and back porch. I wouldnt trust the doors to keep anyone out though. It's nice to see that you plan for the worst though and good luck Do you find this valuable? |
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kinelta |
3. RE: A Family Plan
Nov 26 2009, 11:32 PM EST
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Thanks Spananninen...I really, honestly don't want to travel at all, but I feel it's my best option for a sustainable life post z-day. We don't own any property in the state we are in now, and my first BOL is family-owned and ready to go, except fortification wise. I want my hands on it before it's lost to others outside of the family. Most likely I will be with other adult family members, I just have to plan for them not being around to help. I have a horrible problem with imagining the worst. And praying (I'm Muslim btw)...I'll be taking the special dispensation with this one, assuming my life is in danger (which it will be), and shorten and combine prayers, and pray in the car. I know I'll start praying for sure when I come across zeds and hostile people, just not in any formal way. I Do you find this valuable? |
PedroAsani |
4. RE: A Family Plan
Nov 27 2009, 8:05 PM EST
"I know I'll start praying for sure when I come across zeds and hostile people, just not in any formal way."You can use my all purpose patent-pending Desperate Plea to the God(s) if you like. "Sweet Merciful [Deity(ies)], I don't want to die like this!" Works just brilliantly in Chinese. Tián rén cí de shàng dì, wǒ bù xiǎng zhè yàng sǐ! Do you find this valuable? |
Knuxz |
5. RE: A Family Plan
Dec 31 2009, 4:58 PM EST
"You can use my all purpose patent-pending Desperate Plea to the God(s) if you like.Lawlzers.... Do you find this valuable? |
Nehh |
6. RE: A Family Plan
Jan 3 2010, 12:33 PM EST
Good, I'm glad you're thinking of the children. I'm actually a teenager, although I am good with computers and all the people in my survival plan are also teenagers (we did a bit of weapon training on a school trip, it was awesome). I also have a samurai sword my dad bought on a visit to Japan, and I'm very good with it.I'm just glad my dad has decided I'm old enough to live on my own so long as I'm with a responsible adult or a group of friends he judges sensible... If he was with us, his plan would probably be to just panic, drive off in a car and most likely get us all killed immediately. Do you find this valuable? |
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kinelta |
7. RE: A Family Plan
Jan 31 2010, 6:29 PM EST
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Some questions posed on another thread from LWJ2009:My other question is how much of your child's medicine do you have on hand? Why do you not know how to get to your BOL without a map? Why do you not have forumla for your infant, your not always going to be able to breast feed when the child is hungry? How long is it going to take you to pack the gear in your vehicle? She does not have the proper gear for the location and time of year, so that makes one not ready. Not knowing how to get to a meeting place without the aid of map is another hint, esp if you plan on using the backroads. Then try doing that in a Van, minus the aid of 4 wheel drive or people to plow the roads during winter. Do you find this valuable? |
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kinelta |
8. RE: A Family Plan
Jan 31 2010, 6:43 PM EST
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I have about a five month supply of medication for my daughter's diabetes. I don't have that many syringes if I use them once, but I can use them again should I need to.I do know how to get to all of the places that I need to go out-of-state via major highways, with the exception to the exact location in Tennessee (and it's one of my last back-up plans). For my desired BOL I can get there two different ways, as I have driven to that location several times in my life. I don't know how to get there with backroads, however, hence the need for maps. My in-state BOL: I know the backroads to where I want to go. A map would still be useful should I not be able to use those roads either. And I've got some for both my city and my state. I might consider formula as a back-up. I don't keep it around normally, and should the SHTF, it's unlikely I would be able to get any at that time anyway. If I do have other people going with me, and chances are I will, I would be able to feed the baby when hungry. But feeding an infant formula also requires keeping extra water on hand, and seeing as how my car will be filled to capacity (even without extra people), that might not be as feasible (exclusively breastfed infants do not require any supplementaion whatsoever, including water). To get everything I need in my car, I would guess about an hour and a half. Some of the things that I want to take with me are already prepared to go. If I have to go at shorter notice, the BOBs for all family members are ready, with the exception of my husband, as well as an emergency food supply for 72 hours. I still as yet don't have enough water. Do you find this valuable? |
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MajorDamage |
9. RE: A Family Plan
Jan 31 2010, 6:51 PM EST
While a small stockpile of bottle/filtered water is good to have on hand anytime, to save space a water purifying/filtering device found in camping supplies would suffice rather well.Then when you find water along the route, you just filter what you need and can store en route. Do you find this valuable? |
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kinelta |
10. RE: A Family Plan
Jan 31 2010, 6:54 PM EST
"Some questions posed on another thread from LWJ2009:No, I don't have all the gear I need to bug-out to the mountains, which is the reason that it is the option of last resort. Very last resort. And I did mention that should it be winter, there is no way that I could survive in that climate and I would not go at all. It is only there should it be late spring/early summer. It doesn't mean, however, that sometime in the future I should be able to get the gear I need, and then it might be a viable alternative for the winter months. It just isn't now. I mentioned the maps in the above posts. And as for not having four-wheel drive, it is a circumstance that cannot be helped at this time. I still rue the day we sold our suburban. And since you have done such a good job of finding holes, I'd appreciate more. And if you have suggestions on how to remedy the problems that I have listed, I'd like to hear them as well. Like I said, I want to keep my family alive Do you find this valuable? |
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kinelta |
11. RE: A Family Plan
Jan 31 2010, 6:58 PM EST
"While a small stockpile of bottle/filtered water is good to have on hand anytime, to save space a water purifying/filtering device found in camping supplies would suffice rather well.:) Thank you Major. It's a future plan. Carnack was actually on me about it, too. I'm trying to decide which part should take more priority at this point and divert the available funds there. Water might be it. And I want to get those straw for all the kids, too. That would be a relief to know should for some reason they end up on their own (one very small relief). 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
nate121 |
12. RE: A Family Plan
Jan 31 2010, 7:22 PM EST
great plan you've listed several back up locations and have a great first place chossenGood Job! and about poking holes i can't find to many that haven't already been mentioned, but i'm not that good at finding them anyway 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
ViolentKisses |
13. RE: A Family Plan
Mar 2 2010, 6:30 PM EST
Lol I hope those are reusable diapers or you will be out in 48 to 72 hours :DWipes won't last that long :D Try maybe 50 wipes and 25 diapers for a little more travel time :D Too bad diapers are so bulky D: Do you find this valuable? |
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kinelta |
14. RE: A Family Plan
Mar 3 2010, 12:05 AM EST
"Lol I hope those are reusable diapers or you will be out in 48 to 72 hours :DI've got cloth diapers, although disposable would be useful in a pinch. I've got cloth wipes, too, made from various old clothes that are no longer usable. I've got too many kids now to afford disposable. :) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
theghostnthedarkness |
15. RE: A Family Plan
Mar 15 2010, 4:58 AM EDT
you mentioned maybe getting machetes for your two oldest children. machetes could be difficult for you two children to use because they are younger. maybe you should look into getting them smaller hunting knives instead, something with maybe a 6" blade. your children would be able to handle them more easily then a large machete.and also if funds permited you should maybe look into a long gun of some sort. especially if you would have to hide out in the mountians for a while. walmart has small light .22 caribines for about 150 bucks out the door that would serve you well in that kind of situation. the ammo is light and so is the gun. you oldest child could even carry it without it being to much of a burdon while on the move. it would be ideal for hunting small game as opposed to your 92fs. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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ViolentKisses |
16. RE: A Family Plan
Mar 15 2010, 9:54 AM EDT
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How old are your children?Idk if they should be trying to fight off zombies with melee >.> Would be better to get them a 10 22 :) You could raid a small nearby clinic for syringes and other medical supplies. Unless of course people are rushing into clinics for whatever reason during the beginning of the outbreak. I'd avoid hospitals though... Oh and guess what the guy living right next to the clinic drives a H1 Hummer XD If there wasn't anyone around to chase me off and I had time I would be very likely to smash a window and hotwire the thing :) -_- And yes I've hotwired cars before this wouldn't be a amateur 20 min job. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Harley_Warren |
17. RE: A Family Plan
Jul 17 2010, 4:36 AM EDT
"I would appreciate any holes that can be found and suggestions that can be made. "Just awesome, one of the best plans i ever saw. No holes, but just some things to add (i'm new to this site, so please bear with me ^^). Maybe you want wedges with rubber on one side to block doors (at home or anywhere else). No need to make modifications on your home, and if you bug out you might be able to carry them with you. As for the tire changing thing (on a 15+ hours drive cross-country through accident sites with broken glass and stuff you will have one or more flat tires i'm afraid) - look for something like tire foam (at last that's what it is called here), you have a pressurized can with a hose and a tire valve so you can spray that stuff in the tire. It seals small leaks for hundreds of miles (tried that unintentionally, works. Works for motorbikes as well, come to that. Tried that too ^^). And you can get yourself a telescopic tire iron, making it fairly easy to loosen the screws. As for the syringes- an old glass syringe that you can sterilize in hot water might save you the risk to go foraging in a hospital. Do you find this valuable? |
Tyrantking |
18. RE: A Family Plan
Aug 23 2010, 12:07 PM EDT
Great plan. I can't find anything wrong, but I do have one suggestion. If you can't find any gas at gas stations there is this pump thing you can use to siphon gas out of gas tanks and you don't have to risk accidentally drinking gas.
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Sharpie41 |
19. RE: A Family Plan
Oct 4 2010, 10:46 PM EDT
I like it, but get a rifle/carbine of some kind, if I were you i'd get a Beretta CX4 Storm
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