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womule2005 |
horses as tranportation post z-day
Nov 30 2009, 11:55 PM EST
once the zombies emerge, and civilization has past. horses will reemerge as the best mode of transportationcar/trucks/etc will become useless in a matter of years. fuel goes bad and/or runs out. batteries get FUBAR along with tires, brakes, belts, hoses to name a few. sure there are plenty of parts stores and abandoned cars, but car batteries inevitably go bad whether they are being used or not. what will you do then? you need a horse. horses have been the mode of tranportation for thousands of years. as long as you have grass and water you have a ride! 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
Troy_Redgrave |
2. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 12:47 AM EST
"i wouldnt get on a ******* horse for nothing. i hope you ass gets bit after that horse throws you off!"Not a horse-person, John? A horse would consume resources at an extreme rate. Add to that the fact that unless you have the know how to train what must essentially be a war horse (an extremely difficult task) and the inherent danger of riding horses in a world with little to no medical support, what you have is a recipe for disaster. Walking is much better. Or, better yet, a bicycle. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
deathseekrakodo |
3. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 12:48 AM EST
"once the zombies emerge, and civilization has past. horses will reemerge as the best mode of transportationhear hear, I'll second that. Make sure you get some riding lessons green horns (newbies), if you get a good teacher it will pay in folds later. Do you find this valuable? |
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deathseekrakodo |
4. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 12:49 AM EST
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PedroAsani |
5. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 12:55 AM EST
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"it seems to me like johns account is hacked, actually. "Not hacked. John-234 not John_234. Posts deleted. Do you find this valuable? |
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womule2005 |
6. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 1:03 AM EST
SOOOOOOOOO........anywayhorses do present problems. a thousand years ago horses were twarted by indian elephants because the horses were afraid of them. then everyone figured out to fix that is to expose the horses to elephants then they were never afraid again. and elephants were never used again. the same can be done with zombies. to address the bicycle thing. do you want to be tired when you get jumped by a zed? everyone gets tired riding bikes. where are you going to carry your gear? how about the gear you just looted? Do you find this valuable? |
Freelancer47 |
7. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 1:17 AM EST
Be advised: John-234 is NOT the same as John_234.John_234 doesn't treat you like Andering J Redding does... John_234 is far more intelectual & educated than an individual that treats you like a wayward f***up... Carry on... -Freelancer47/Mick *Battle Damage Control* Do you find this valuable? |
timberrattler |
8. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 6:42 AM EST
"I'm with you on a lot of things man. Just one thing, out of curiosity I went to a calorie counter website and checked on some facts that I was curious about and found something I was pretty sure of. You burn as many calories with general horseback riding as you do on a leisurely (10mph) bike ride. I figured that because when I was in my twenties and still competed in field trials I weighed a lot less. At the end of a long day of horseback riding even an experienced rider will feel beat up and tired. Do you find this valuable? |
Rgz175 |
9. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 9:37 AM EST
With most of the population gone, I dont think the handful survivors are going to run out of gas anytime soon, even if no new petroleum is extracted from the earth. There's always biofuel and several other concoctions which could serve as alternatives. Also, a lot of people can make basic repairs to cars. Maybe in a stable (no pun intended) survivors society, horses can be used as a very good alternative, but I doubt if cars would be as useless as you think. Do you find this valuable? |
SGTGerman |
10. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 9:56 AM EST
Yeah but don't horses need alot of looking after I mean wouldn't have to replace their "Shoes" and have the proper riding equipment?And besides, its nmot like you can just jump on horse and say "Ride like the wind," you have to know how to train them. Still, good idea though if you know what your doing. . Do you find this valuable? |
DLOWTHEMAD |
11. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 10:03 AM EST
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"With most of the population gone, I dont think the handful survivors are going to run out of gas anytime soon, even if no new petroleum is extracted from the earth. There's always biofuel and several other concoctions which could serve as alternatives. Also, a lot of people can make basic repairs to cars.Gasoline and deisel(actually almost all petroleum products) break down, for liquid fuels the shelf life is around a year depending on the formula, and storage conditions. There are additives to make it store for longer, but most of the fuel sitting around on z-day will be in convenience store tanks, untreted and unsealed. That fuel will be worthless quickly. That is why horses are kicked around so much. Diofuels(Holy Diver!!!11!!... sorry i meant biofuels, but that was too cool to take out.) don't have much bettrer shelf lives. Sure some people will still use cars,trucks,ATVs and the like, but most won't have the ability to produce new fuels. @SGT - in the 1800s just about everybody knew those skills who didn't live in a large settlement. Not that they are simple, just easy to learn. For the record, most Native Americans did not have riding equipment nor did they shoe their horses. Those things are useful, but not absolutely needed, all you have to have is rope for a halter. Do you find this valuable? |
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womule2005 |
12. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 7:09 PM EST
"I'm with you on a lot of things man.im not going to question you but that doesnt seem right. when i ride i just sit there and let the horse do the work, but then again im not going on a hard ride just 6 to 8 hours. and im not a scientist! the thing about bikes is i get tired riding a bike, depends on the quality of the bike but i do get tired after a long hill. flat rides on a bike are nothing to me its the hills. i've never tried to ride a bike while hauling gear, but i imagine it would make it worse. a horse will still be able to carry me and some gear. if the gear is to large i could use a second horse or mule as a pack animal to carry it. then it would be tricky to ride, lead a pack animal and fight while evading a mess of zed! im not saying the horse is a magic bullet solution, but i am saying that it is a skill we need to learn. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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womule2005 |
13. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 7:13 PM EST
"With most of the population gone, I dont think the handful survivors are going to run out of gas anytime soon, even if no new petroleum is extracted from the earth. There's always biofuel and several other concoctions which could serve as alternatives. Also, a lot of people can make basic repairs to cars.you're missing the point about car break downs. i'll use batteries as an example. sure most people know how to change a car battery. everyone can do it if they just tried it. the problem is that batteries WILL ALWAYS GO BAD. when i worked for autozone i had to routinely check the new batteries to see if they were still good to sell, the shelf-life is shorter than the vehicle installed life. not to mention that tires go bad. either from wearing out or from dry rotting (sitting in one place till the elements have their way with it) we can and should use vehicles as long as we can, but we need to have a long term view in mind. Do you find this valuable? |
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womule2005 |
14. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 1 2009, 7:21 PM EST
"@SGT - in the 1800s just about everybody knew those skills who didn't live in a large settlement. Not that they are simple, just easy to learn.DLOWTHEMAD you're absolutely right. actually the Native Americans and anybody that needed a horse for transportation, went through quite a few horses. horses didnt live as long back then due to the rough live they were put through. what did people do back then? got another horse lol! NA kept a herd with them where ever they went. horse broke its leg? there's another over there. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
John_234 |
15. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 2 2009, 2:03 AM EST
That was.... rather creepy....
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DLOWTHEMAD |
16. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 2 2009, 11:55 AM EST
"im not going to question you but that doesnt seem right. when i ride i just sit there and let the horse do the work, but then again im not going on a hard ride just 6 to 8 hours. "When you ride, you have to move with the horse. Flexing your legs and swaying your hips with it's stride. That's why it wears out even an experienced rider. If your not tired at the end of a day(or even a couple of hours of riding) you are probably doing damage to the horse. The cantle(the large roundish butt pad) at the back of the saddle sits directly over the horse's kidneys, if your just sitting there every bump will grind the majority of your weight into the poor horses kidneys. I've seen horses have blood in their urine after a greenhorn rides them for a day. Seriously you have to move with the horse or you could kill it. You have to remember that it's not a motorcycle or a bike, it's a living being and any mistakes in your horsemanship could have very dire effects on the horse. That's also why people are so sore when they first learn to ride, a few blisters and really sore thigh muscles, at least that was what killed me for the first week when I first learned to work on horseback. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DLOWTHEMAD |
17. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 2 2009, 11:57 AM EST
"That was.... rather creepy...."It's true, native americans would kill and eat a lame horse with almost no thought about it besides what part to cook first. Do you find this valuable? |
agentaaa |
18. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 2 2009, 3:32 PM EST
"DLOWTHEMADTo put a point out, the natives didn't have horses till the settlers came. There were no horses naturally in north america, but horses became used by the native after the europeans brought them over. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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timberrattler |
19. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 2 2009, 3:55 PM EST
"When you ride, you have to move with the horse. Flexing your legs and swaying your hips with it's stride. That's why it wears out even an experienced rider.DLOW, You my friend are a horseman. Sit a horse like a sack of sh*t and you'll both end the day hurting. Thank you for keeping it real. Toes up, heels down brutha! Do you find this valuable? |
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DLOWTHEMAD |
20. RE: horses as tranportation post z-day
Dec 2 2009, 4:26 PM EST
"DLOW,I don't know about a real horseman, shy of a couple of trail rides, I haven't been on a horse in ten years. I did how ever work on the 02 in Alpine, TX ranch as a general hand for about 3 summers when I was a teenager. My uncle was the ranch boss for awhile, and he was an impatient teacher who did things the old way, and didn't take any excuses. Especially for bad horsemanship. I had my hands whipped with his reigns every time I held the saddle horn for too long(he called it the greenhorn grip lol), and he always rode at a trot. If you didn't want to get lost on that 275,000 acre ranch, you kept up. Do you find this valuable? |
