"Rice doesn't take but 20-25 minutes if it's white. 45 minutes if it's brown.

There is a little trick to cut down on soaking time for beans: put bean in boiling water for two minutes. Remove from heat and let sit one hour. Then cook as usual.

They make take a while but their nutritional content is far superior to boil-in-a-bag meals. (Sorry SGT). If you can take care of you health it'll serve you better in the long run--if you want to be in the long run, that is.

Lentils don't require soaking and cook in about 30 minutes.

It might be a handy thing to learn to identify edible plants in your area, too."

"I don't plan on being on the move...all you zed killers may do so. but you may be increasingly relying on junk food."

"Really SGT, you don't think that you will be able to spare 30 minutes? Time to take care of yourself and clean your weapons while the food is cooking? And maybe cook some extra for the next few meals? It is feasible. You have to plan for it, because it is just as vital to your survival.

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"going to say like in the movie mad max the road warrior and max mad beyondf thunderdome after a generation or so, none of this will probaly exist. we might have to eat some stuff that you'll probaly never eat like a grasshopper or squirel. yes it does sound nasty but we must do what it takes to survive..

(his is why im taking many seeds along with me.)"

"Then how do you plan on a boil-in-bag boiling? One pot and a spoon is too much equipment? Do you not plan on sleeping? Ever hear of little pits to cook underground without flame?

It is something to consider...or maybe you'll have to reconsider your survival plan so that you can feed yourself.

Don't get defensive. Eventually your supply of ready-made food *will* run out. It is easier to carry these staples and it's not a big thing to cook them, argue it as you will."

"Yes but you can not grow and eat plants on the move. For the short term you have to go Hard routine if you want the best chance of mobile survival. "

"Don't no. It all depends. What if your transport break downs and you have to make it on foot? What if you have divert from your original course?"

"if the place you are spending the night isnt safe enough to cook a 30 min meal, i wouldnt want to be there. if you cant be safe in a location its not a safe place.

as long as you are in those conditions then yes, packaged_no_cooking_necessary_food is they way to go. but you REALLY REALLY need to find a safe place to sleep.

if you are worried about a campfire giving away your position or attracting zed attention. put a sterno oven with sterno fuel in you BOB. no flame, cooks canned foods quickly in about 5 minutes. i havent experimented to see if they will boil water, maybe that is on my to-do list."