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AlexHigginbotham |
response to kevlar
Dec 15 2009, 10:21 AM EST
Yea, pretty much poorly written. Ill add some notes.He had it way wrong with kevlar. Not all vests will stand up well to getting shot. If you have a vest it is likely to be either the Interceptor, MTV, or Dragonskin. If you wear the interceptor or MTV and dont have the insertable (and heavy) ceramic plates, high muzzle velocity pistol amuunition and pretty much any rifle round will tear through it like swiss cheese. With the plates, it will only sustain a couple shots before the plate is destroyed and penetration is possible. Dragonskin is much more reliable in takiing multiple rounds, and it isnt as "rare" as LJ126 said. Many swat organizations and mercinaries (such as halo or blackwater) use dragonskin. Dont expect to find any on a military base though because as of now it is still banned through the army and marine corps. The MTV is a heavy piece of **** that severly limits movement, i had to wear one for 7 months, and not a second of it was fun. On top of that, even if wearing the best kevlar armor, if someone shoots you with a small round such as a 9mm or .38, it will HURT LIKE HELL. It will can bruising, it can break ribs, and it can stop you heart and cause internal bleeding. Surviving a grenade blast.... Almost comical. There are cases upon cases of people jumping on grenades, covering it with a solid kevlar helmet, then laying across it with full kevlar vest with plate inserts. The likelyhood of surviving without recieving very severe injury is slim and none. Personally on Z-day i will have no use for kevlar body armor. Kevlar tears very easily and with continued use, holes wear through the material. The only viable use i could see are the UK versions of the kevlar "stab proof" vest. I can see where thin kevlar with a thing copper wire mesh woven in (i think thats how they are made) would be pretty bite resistant, and also very lightweight. Do you find this valuable?
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PedroAsani |
1. RE: response to kevlar
Dec 15 2009, 11:37 AM EST
"Yea, pretty much poorly written. Ill add some notes."If you think it needs it, re-write it so it makes sense, is readable, and is correct. Hint: I think it needs it :) Do you find this valuable? |
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AlexHigginbotham |
2. RE: response to kevlar
Dec 15 2009, 12:05 PM EST
ill make a weekend of it, im not an expert on the matter by any means, but i have had a good bit on hands on experience with the material.
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PedroAsani |
3. RE: response to kevlar
Dec 15 2009, 10:16 PM EST
"Personally on Z-day i will have no use for kevlar body armor. Kevlar tears very easily and with continued use, holes wear through the material. The only viable use i could see are the UK versions of the kevlar "stab proof" vest. I can see where thin kevlar with a thing copper wire mesh woven in (i think thats how they are made) would be pretty bite resistant, and also very lightweight."I agree with this when discussing zombie attack, however human encounters could still end in gunfire, and if I had one of these, I would be wearing it a lot of the first year or so. Raiders, jumpy survivors, some idiot who leaves a home-made trap active and then buggers off... Do you find this valuable? |
DevilNuts |
4. RE: response to kevlar
Dec 16 2009, 5:02 AM EST
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Dunham Do you find this valuable? |
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AlexHigginbotham |
5. RE: response to kevlar
Dec 16 2009, 5:40 PM EST
I'm responding from my phone so I can't open that article, but didn't he die from injuries after a week in the hospital?
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IrishHitman |
6. RE: response to kevlar
Dec 16 2009, 6:04 PM EST
Dragonskin is banned from the US military?Why's that? Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
7. RE: response to kevlar
Dec 16 2009, 6:34 PM EST
"I'm responding from my phone so I can't open that article, but didn't he die from injuries after a week in the hospital?"8 days. Do you find this valuable? |
John_234 |
8. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 1:47 AM EST
"Dragonskin is banned from the US military?In very hot or cold weather, the "scales" fall apart and sink to the bottom of the vest, offering no ballistic protection. Do you find this valuable? |
uncleiroh13 |
9. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 10:05 AM EST
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"Yea, pretty much poorly written."Give me a break im lazy and in 9th grade plus i hated english class i barely pass it(but im good in other subjects) Do you find this valuable? |
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DevilNuts |
10. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 11:40 AM EST
"In very hot or cold weather, the "scales" fall apart and sink to the bottom of the vest, offering no ballistic protection."The temperatures at which this happens is very extreme, and it is commonly believed that this conclusion was a BS copout on the part of corporate lobbyists in order to maintain the current Dod contract for the interceptor line of body armor. Some commands allow the use of personal armor, and some commands (as I understand it) restrict its use so as not to be liable for its supposed shortcomings. It's all about politics and money. Do you find this valuable? |
WoodlandGhillie |
11. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 12:09 PM EST
""Yea, pretty much poorly written."That's no excuse. Especially for a ninth grader! At least capitalize correctly... -WG Do you find this valuable? |
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John_234 |
12. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 2:48 PM EST
"The temperatures at which this happens is very extreme, and it is commonly believed that this conclusion was a BS copout on the part of corporate lobbyists in order to maintain the current Dod contract for the interceptor line of body armor.I just wish the armor system was cheap enough for individual testing so one of us could confirm or deny that. Do you find this valuable? |
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AlexHigginbotham |
13. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 2:59 PM EST
"In very hot or cold weather, the "scales" fall apart and sink to the bottom of the vest, offering no ballistic protection."The DoD banned the use of the vest for that very reason, 2 DAYS BEFORE THEY STARTED TESTING IT! There was a big investigation on it but it got swept under the rug. Youtube it, theres a ton of news reports on it. Do you find this valuable? |
nnaruto25 |
14. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 3:19 PM EST
One bad thing about kevlars and zombies, ZOMBIES CANOT SHOOT YOU, THEY BITE YOU...
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John_234 |
15. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 3:21 PM EST
"One bad thing about kevlars and zombies, ZOMBIES CANOT SHOOT YOU, THEY BITE YOU..."Humans are a much bigger threat. Do you find this valuable? |
Conmiro |
16. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 3:34 PM EST
"One bad thing about kevlars and zombies, ZOMBIES CANOT SHOOT YOU, THEY BITE YOU..."Caps Lock is cruise control for idiots. John_234, you must be in a play world. nnaruto is right, no people would want to shoot you, right? /sarcasm nnaruto, quit posting on this site. Do you find this valuable? |
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John_234 |
17. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 3:55 PM EST
I added dragonskin to the current page, I tried to be impartial with my writing, but eh..... Thoughts?
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deathseekrakodo |
18. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 5:22 PM EST
yea, naurto...i'd wade into a crowd of zombies with not but a mx helmet and a off hand parry shield+machette, but then a raider sees my pretty helmet and shoots me in the back for it lol.slow movers would be just a game to me and worry me not at all, fast movers...just a little worried, but people with guns pointed at me makes me worry alot. i can dodge, parry, or absorb any combat strike, but i can't dodge, parry, or absorb a rifle round. armor would be nice....i was looking around the other day on the interwebs and a IIIa full torso w/molle webbing and plate pockets was like 1600 and restricted to le/mil use(supposedly). that was the cheapest i found, the most expensive was 4000. does any one have any ideas for homaid ballistic protection? Do you find this valuable? |
Frag-12 |
19. RE: response to kevlar
Jan 2 2010, 5:30 PM EST
Ideal, a custom made armor that would give you the most protection from the living and the dead. In addition, it is not too hot and provides maximum maneuverability.I guess the best way to do this would be to wear a shark suit and wear class III armor or better. I guess you could use chain mail which is the easiest and most time consuming armor you can make. If you could attach shark suit (or chain mail) leggings and arms to the class 3 body armor, that would be the better than wearing a suit and the vest. Then wear heavy combat boots and protect your hands. As for the head, this gets tricky. If you wear no head gear, make sure to wear glasses and keep your mouth shut when splatting close range Zombies. If you do wear head gear, wear something that enhances your visibility and your hearing or you can add things to enhance those senses. There are both good points and bad points to wear head gear. And don't forget to protect your throat if the body armor or chain protection does not. Leather around your neck will work good for this. Do you find this valuable? |
