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LLukeL	Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Jan 6 2010, 6:29 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 6 2010, 6:29 PM EST While I have heard many people voice themselves against the use improvised weapons, often citing the poor quality of improv and fabricated weapons. A telescoping pole with a knife tied to it, the knife/pole becomes broken, and now what? Understanding these qualities of fabricated and improvised weapons, people should not become disillusioned to what they really are: a single- or few-use weapon, designed to be manufactured quickly and in large quantities. They should be effective the first or second use, but not more beyond that. With this said, what suggestions does the community have that fall in line with these qualities? Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
timberrattler	1. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Jan 6 2010, 6:54 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 6 2010, 6:54 PM EST " With this said, what suggestions does the community have that fall in line with these qualities?" As far as a toss away weapon goes it doesn't get more practical and simple than a sharpened stick. I'd say any form of improvised spear would be easy to make if you didn't expect much from it. Bamboo spears (if you lived in an area that raised bamboo) would probably be the most sturdy and also the quickest to produce. Cut one end off at an angle and you have a spear head. Galvanized pipe would be heavier but would make good spears as well as clubs. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
thepanzieman	2. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Jan 14 2010, 3:11 PM EST a thaught i had... simple yet effective weapon you can do in a pinch. got it from a prison movie. rock in a sock i would use it if i had to. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Themiddleodnowhere	3. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Jan 14 2010, 3:49 PM EST "a thaught i had... simple yet effective weapon you can do in a pinch. got it from a prison movie. rock in a sock i would use it if i had to. " I have made a ton of Improvised weapons, some, from that anarchist handbook, others, more thought out. Bamboo grow rapidly, and roots almost any where, i know, some is taking over my field as we speak, growing at a rate of 4 inches a day, there isnt much more renewable than that are we talking about prethpught out weapons or just **** you grabbed and made into a weapon, no proir forthought Post reply Do you find this valuable?
cheif-beef	4. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Feb 25 2010, 8:46 PM EST railroad spike tomahawk or knife. relatively easy forging process and rr spikes are abundant if you know where to look. after settling in one could see too fabricating a forge. good way to have a renewable weapon supply to outfit a large team with reliable melee weapons. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
AlexHigginbotham	5. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Feb 25 2010, 8:54 PM EST An improvised weapon and a weapon of opportunity are two different things. A weapon of opportunity is grabbing something in an emergency and using it, like a stick, beer bottle, etc. An improvised weapon is something you make in safe conditions in preparation for combat, IE a knife tied to a stick. Weapons of opportunity > Improvised weapons Myself and a party member (who is an ordnance tech, read my survival plan) are comfortable using improvised explosives. Do I recommend someone who has the anarchist cookbook to do the same? Absoloutly not. If you have a good bit of knowledge of what your working with, and some experience to boot, you should be OK fabricating a weapon. If you don't know what you're doing, then stick with a club. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Themiddleodnowhere	6. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Feb 25 2010, 9:23 PM EST "An improvised weapon and a weapon of opportunity are two different things. A weapon of opportunity is grabbing something in an emergency and using it, like a stick, beer bottle, etc. An improvised weapon is something you make in safe conditions in preparation for combat, IE a knife tied to a stick. Weapons of opportunity > Improvised weapons Myself and a party member (who is an ordnance tech, read my survival plan) are comfortable using improvised explosives. Do I recommend someone who has the anarchist cookbook to do the same? Absoloutly not. If you have a good bit of knowledge of what your working with, and some experience to boot, you should be OK fabricating a weapon. If you don't know what you're doing, then stick with a club." not gona lie, ive made some beastly weapons, all it takes is a welder, a grinder, and a vice .5" stainless steel rod, with 2 blade at the end, also a spike, for jabing, at the other end, a combination prybar and nail remover, its a kick ass thing, and its realy only limited by your imagination as for explosives....i personally dont know too much about explosives, beyond gunpowder and fertilizer, lol, molotovs, smoke bombs, draino bombs, and fertilizer stuffs...but i wouldnt use them in combat, no way in hell, half the time they dont even work Post reply Do you find this valuable?
chevellescool	7. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 19 2010, 6:53 AM EDT do weapons of opportunity include things like baseball bats, crowbars,ect.? if so then they'll be worth more than gold(golds stupid and does nothing but look pretty and stay pretty.)also, improvised weapons can be amazing, you just need skill,knowledge, and creativity. after all nerve gas can be made by properly mixing two common ingredients, im not telling which, simply because i dont want hear about nerve gas wielding terrorists on the news, plus i.e.d.s are easy as crap to make if you know you stuff, so when the world goes to hell and zombies terrify every man,woman, and child, remember dont waste a perfectly good chance to upgrade you survival chance, allright people? also, stay away from crime people, or ill find you(its my job) Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
TheSecondShooter	8. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 19 2010, 7:11 AM EDT I have a friend who is a blacksmith, and he is helping me make a weapon out of a shovel. Here is a rough picture so you get an idea of what it will be like. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4518264513_db437b1b0f_o.jpg We are taking the bends out of the neck so it will be straight, and hammering the curve out of the shovel blade so it is flat except for the fold in the center of the blade that will be left for strength. it has a good fiberglass handle and we are going to weld the handle in the back where the two sides come together to make the tube. We will work harden the edges after we shape the blade to hold a good edge. what do you guys think good or no good? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
brandon_a_boyer	9. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 19 2010, 7:18 AM EDT The furthest i'd probably go is welding up a flanged mace, beyond that I feel like you are leaving the realm of improvised and entering the realm of purpose-built construction. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
FracturedCell	10. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 19 2010, 10:00 AM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 19 2010, 10:01 AM EDT "what do you guys think good or no good?" Having wrecked many a shovel in my time, just by using them, I feel qualified to say that the shape they are, not to mention the bent re-enforcement, are all there for a reason - as soon as you start to remove those things it starts to loose it's structural strength. Also, from the image, it looks like the tip is too fine and wide for such thin material, and will bend before it penetrates the skull. If you are going for sweeping attacks, you have to bear in mind that composite materials (like fibreglass) show only tiny reports of stress, therefore you won't know the extent of the damage before it shatters, and rips up the palms of your hands. That is the reason why metal or wooden shafts were/are predominantly used. However, this is mostly speculation, having not held said item in my hands, or seen the finished product. Do me a favour though, test it out well before depending on it - and I mean some proper rough stuff, not just watermelons. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SkittleDojo	11. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 19 2010, 10:15 AM EDT "As far as a toss away weapon goes it doesn't get more practical and simple than a sharpened stick. I'd say any form of improvised spear would be easy to make if you didn't expect much from it. Bamboo spears (if you lived in an area that raised bamboo) would probably be the most sturdy and also the quickest to produce. Cut one end off at an angle and you have a spear head. Galvanized pipe would be heavier but would make good spears as well as clubs." Bamboo can be Taken from any friendly neighboorhood walmart, or any gardening store for that matter, if you arent mobile youll want to have that stash ready. On the same note, gardening stores are a mans best friend, anythinh in there can be a weapon, tools, supplys. There should beca good pair of hedgeclippers , or, one of tgose sharp metal poles used for tomato growing Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Commander98	12. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 19 2010, 6:22 PM EDT Meh I'll just take a bottle pour gasoline in it, stick half of a piece of cloth in it ,close it, and then light the end and toss. Welcome to the molotov cocktail. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
brandon_a_boyer	13. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 19 2010, 6:31 PM EDT "Meh I'll just take a bottle pour gasoline in it, stick half of a piece of cloth in it ,close it, and then light the end and toss. Welcome to the molotov cocktail." Silly amateur, you have to add a gelling agent, otherwise the gasoline doesn't stick to the target. Used motor oil or soap flakes work particularly well. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
1337z0mb13	14. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 20 2010, 9:19 PM EDT For me, I choose crowbars. They are useful tools, and deadly weapons. They can pry open doors and craniums, can be used like on ice pick, or use them to remove nails from found lumber. The only thing I see wrong with it is the curved part can get stuck in a skull. Post reply 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
randomknife666	15. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 22 2010, 8:21 PM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 22 2010, 10:00 PM EDT Electric guitars heavy but if you trip it up it shouldnt take more than one hit to smash its brain in as a note though wouldnt advise it against multiple attavkers due to the lack of control when swinging Post reply Do you find this valuable?
brandon_a_boyer	16. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 23 2010, 2:20 AM EDT Please be joking Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
randomknife666	17. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Apr 23 2010, 8:05 AM EDT As an added note the guitar will never be playable again :( and likely will have smashed Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Acer81996	18. RE: Improvised and Fabricated Weapons Jul 31 2010, 8:17 AM EDT why use a guitar if there is a bass? Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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