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Johnny3000 |
the panic
Jan 7 2010, 3:00 PM EST
While I completely agree with everything on here, IF and that's a big if, the zombies turn fast there will be a lot more gas than you think, however if you can provide numbers that dispute this claim, I will concede.Gas will go bed there is no question about it but some convenience store owners will fight (with or without weapons) for their store. the Rodney King riots and the Korean shop owners come to mind. critisim and pointing out any holes that are there is welcome. Johnny3000 Do you find this valuable?
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PedroAsani |
1. RE: the panic
Jan 7 2010, 7:07 PM EST
No matter how fast the zombies turn, deliveries will be stopped at some point. All that is left then is what is in the storage tanks.The smallest tanks hold just 5,000 gallons. That's about right for most convenience stores in small areas. Larger gas stations will have anything up to 35,000 gallons. The trucks have up to 9,000 gallons. Average gasoline consumption in the US is about 35 gallons per month. Most people fill up about twice a month. So the smallest tank can only fuel 284 vehicles for their average fill-up. Even the largest will only be able to fuel 2,000 vehicles. And that is from a fresh delivery. I agree that store owners will try and defend their places, particularly the smaller ones. However that is outside the scope of this article. I chose WalMart because most new members, and so most of the population, choose WalMart as the place to go in an emergency. Do you find this valuable? |
inu-dude25 |
2. RE: the panic
Jan 7 2010, 7:28 PM EST
You're omitting diesel and premium/racing fuel there. While glanced over by the general public, they are in many gas stations. And again, at least in the U.S., gas station are literally everywhere. Not to mention, I could take a trip to Philly and knock over the Sunoco refineries, which have zero security. And I mean zero; a news crew drove rihgt into the heart of the place multiple times, even months after informing them about the fact that enough fuel to obliterate the city was just sitting out with no protection.
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Johnny3000 |
3. RE: the panic
Jan 7 2010, 7:55 PM EST
"No matter how fast the zombies turn, deliveries will be stopped at some point. All that is left then is what is in the storage tanks.while i agree the deliveries will stop eventually we should not count fuel stations out of the equation either way (bad or not) the fuel stations are not going to be knocked over for supplies as quick as some people think and v8 juice is delicious, but i have yet to find another similar thinking person on the planet. and thanks for the numbers btw Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
4. RE: the panic
Jan 7 2010, 9:33 PM EST
"You're omitting diesel and premium/racing fuel there. While glanced over by the general public, they are in many gas stations. And again, at least in the U.S., gas station are literally everywhere. Not to mention, I could take a trip to Philly and knock over the Sunoco refineries, which have zero security. And I mean zero; a news crew drove rihgt into the heart of the place multiple times, even months after informing them about the fact that enough fuel to obliterate the city was just sitting out with no protection."I couldn't find numbers for diesel. The low uptake for vehicles with diesel makes numbers harder to find. Ditto your "premium" fuel. But having witnessed many Panic buying sessions in this country due to bad weather, fuel strikes and other reasons, I can tell you that yes, they will be dry in 24 hours. Deliveries are timed to try and match consumption without overfilling the storage tanks. But they don't seem capable of increasing deliveries quickly enough to cope with a Panic. Whether it's their number of trucks, drivers or simply production issues, they just can't do it. You might be able to come up with other lesser known sources of fuel, but this article is about the herd mentality that goes along with the Panic. Very few people will think "I need fuel: head to the stockyard." Few have cars equipped to run on these alternatives. The fact that you know of them, where to find them and apparantly have or will have a vehicle that can use them simply means you know about this behaviour and are prepared to avoid it. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
5. RE: the panic
Jan 7 2010, 9:35 PM EST
"while i agree the deliveries will stop eventually we should not count fuel stations out of the equation either way (bad or not) the fuel stations are not going to be knocked over for supplies as quick as some people think and v8 juice is delicious, but i have yet to find another similar thinking person on the planet. and thanks for the numbers btw"Check out the next time there is a blizzard warning in the northern states. I guarantee that fuel is scarce within 24 hours. If you can't find anyone else who thinks fuel will get scarce, simply google "panic buy fuel" or "fuel queues". Do you find this valuable? |
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Johnny3000 |
6. RE: the panic
Jan 7 2010, 10:01 PM EST
in 2003-2004 the we had a massive ice storm, there where stabbings over nilla wafers. and the fuel sources gas, diesel,even premium fuel was exhausted in around 12 hours. so yea there is defined a herd mentality with humans as a whole. and aone thing I thought of is siphoning from other cars that the driver is either a) dead or b) a zombie. also have you seen videos of Portland oregon in the winter of 2008? it was pretty bad even where i am. (on a big ass hill) Do you find this valuable? |
richboy33lb |
7. RE: the panic
Jan 29 2010, 6:17 PM EST
One simple fact. Aside from mosquitos, the human emotions of fear and panic have killed more humans thatn anything else. Fear was what inspired the Columbine massacre, the Holocaust, pretty mucha ll other disasters that were NOT natural. People are naturally scared of each other and in disasters, this is amplified. thousands. People fear that others will take their food, their water, their very lifelines! Therfore, during this type of disaster, bunkering down for the first couple of weeks, months, or even years is entirely necessary. Until you stop hearing the gunshots and the screams, do not leave your house or base! The only exceptions that I can concieve of are fire, flood, other natural disasters, or for GUARENTEED SAFETY. NOT ASSUMED SAFETY!
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