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timberrattler	People's take on saws. Jan 9 2010, 7:23 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 9 2010, 7:24 PM EST The popular firewood cutting tool for many backpackers is a hachet. I think the best all around wood cutter is a saw. Bow saws are excellent as are hacksaws but I saw a backpacker's saw today that is just perfect. Its called the Sawvivor and is lightweight and supposed to be easy to break down and store unlike a bow saw. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002J91TCI?ie=UTF8&tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=4230830139&ref=pd_sl%5F92pxqzuvnk%5Fb Where a hatchet is good for lots of things (mainly cutting wood) a saw like this can use a wood blade, a bone blade and a metal blade. I can personally saw up more firewood with a saw than I can with a hatchet. The two most popular hatchets (Gerber and Fiskar) are made by the same company. I've never been impressed with Gerber's mystery steel. You'll spend more time sharpening it than using it. Eastwing however makes a good quaility camping axe for less money. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: camp saw hatchet wood cutting
AlexHigginbotham	1. RE: People's take on saws. Jan 9 2010, 7:33 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 9 2010, 7:33 PM EST I like the hand operated chainsaw blades more than an actual saw. It's smaller, faster, and tougher. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
StrykerPez	2. RE: People's take on saws. Jan 9 2010, 7:36 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 9 2010, 7:38 PM EST "I like the hand operated chainsaw blades more than an actual saw. It's smaller, faster, and tougher." + 1 You can make your own with a spare chainsaw chain, some 550 paracord, and two 4" lengths of PVC. Thread two pieces of cord thru the ends of the chain, thru the PVC for handles, tie it, and you're done. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
timberrattler	3. RE: People's take on saws. Jan 9 2010, 8:11 PM EST \| Post edited: Jan 9 2010, 8:11 PM EST "I like the hand operated chainsaw blades more than an actual saw. It's smaller, faster, and tougher." I can see where they'd be smaller, faster and tougher for certain jobs. I'll honestly admit I've never tried one (will be out in my garage making Stryker's version tomarrow :)). I always steered clear of them because they seemed like they'd be better for sawing down green living trees and branches but kinda unweildy with downed seasoned wood like fallen tree branches. I guess I'll just have to give one a try and decide for myself. They would save a lot of space in your pack. Thanks dudes. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
AlexHigginbotham	4. RE: People's take on saws. Jan 10 2010, 8:08 AM EST as far as i know they are faster and more energy efficient than man powered saws. I can kind of vouche, as ive used both, and prefer the chain. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Avtomat_Kalashnikova	5. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 13 2010, 5:53 AM EST Thought this would be for use as weapons, but i'm glad its not. Anyway, a saw IS more effective than a hatchet for cutting wood, but a hatchet is also a weapon. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Filadog	6. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 13 2010, 6:21 AM EST I agree with you on a saws advantage over an axe for cutting wood, these folding saws are handy and I can see thier intended use as a back packing item. Downside is also thier advantage..they are pretty small. This limits what wood they can cut. Also the ones I have seen have been kind of flimsy. For limited cutting of small limb size branchs probably a good choice and I guess what they are intended for. I like the old time buck saws. While not a small backpacker saw like this one if you loosen the turn buckle they come apart to make a compact package yet have a 30 inch blade so you can cut larger logs. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Whybother08	7. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 13 2010, 11:55 AM EST "I like the hand operated chainsaw blades more than an actual saw. It's smaller, faster, and tougher." Except I've personally never seen a quality one, ever. All the ones I've seen my friends get break in the same day they get them, and all the ones I've seen online have poor reviews, saying the same thing. I have a cheap Colghan folding saw in my BOB. It's held up fine, and I've used it a good amount. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
jdi35	8. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 13 2010, 12:26 PM EST "Except I've personally never seen a quality one, ever. All the ones I've seen my friends get break in the same day they get them, and all the ones I've seen online have poor reviews, saying the same thing. I have a cheap Colghan folding saw in my BOB. It's held up fine, and I've used it a good amount." what about this then, WB?...... http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/CAMP226-1.html i've got a Wyoming takedown saw and a folding hand saw and both work very well for me but i also have a hatchet with be just in case. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
brandon_a_boyer	9. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 13 2010, 11:43 PM EST I'd take a folding buck saw. I think lehman's carries a few. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
S.Pro.Ukr	10. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 14 2010, 1:13 AM EST You can use a hatchet to bash a zombie's brains out. Try that with a saw, and you'll probably end up dead. Just saying. You can also use a hatchet to drive a nail, or dig a hole, or break stuff (I don't know what you'd need to break, but a situation might come up). If the hatchet/axe had a beard, you might be able to use it for climbing. I wouldn't really want to, but if there's nothing better... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
2WheeledSpeed	11. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 14 2010, 8:07 AM EST "You can use a hatchet to bash a zombie's brains out. Try that with a saw, and you'll probably end up dead. Just saying. You can also use a hatchet to drive a nail, or dig a hole, or break stuff (I don't know what you'd need to break, but a situation might come up). If the hatchet/axe had a beard, you might be able to use it for climbing. I wouldn't really want to, but if there's nothing better..." That's exactly why I like hatchets as opposed to saws or machetes. They're a bit better as a multi-tool imho. I do want to buy a survival hand operated chainsaw blade that some people have mentioned, it wouldn't take up much space at all. jdi35 linked the exact one I was thinking about. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	12. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 14 2010, 10:13 AM EST \| Post edited: Nov 14 2010, 10:14 AM EST "You can use a hatchet to bash a zombie's brains out. Try that with a saw, and you'll probably end up dead. Just saying. You can also use a hatchet to drive a nail, or dig a hole, or break stuff (I don't know what you'd need to break, but a situation might come up). If the hatchet/axe had a beard, you might be able to use it for climbing. I wouldn't really want to, but if there's nothing better..." Did you read the original post at all? I just suggested adding a saw. I didn't say it was a replacement I listed its pro as a tool. Not only that I put in my 2 cents on what I thought was the best hachet for the money. Being from the midwest I'm best served with a hachet myself. I just prefer the speed and ease of a saw when collecting firewood. I use a hachet to hack off the small branches and a saw to cut up the rest. The hachet is then used to split the wood. I'm not going to go one on one with a zombie with a saw and never even came close to suggesting it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
OutlawJames	13. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 14 2010, 10:46 AM EST I have a folding camp saw in my BOB. Looks lilke a foot long folding knife. Works quite well. I had a few of the early incarnations of the hand chain saw ( They where cable saws actually) They were okay for one or two cuts then broke or coiled so badly from heat you couldnt use them. I have neve tried one of the chainsaw blade type though. But I always carry the folding camp saw when out roughing it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
S.Pro.Ukr	14. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 14 2010, 11:57 AM EST "Did you read the original post at all? I just suggested adding a saw. I didn't say it was a replacement I listed its pro as a tool. Not only that I put in my 2 cents on what I thought was the best hachet for the money. Being from the midwest I'm best served with a hachet myself. I just prefer the speed and ease of a saw when collecting firewood. I use a hachet to hack off the small branches and a saw to cut up the rest. The hachet is then used to split the wood. I'm not going to go one on one with a zombie with a saw and never even came close to suggesting it." And that was my argument against a saw. The hatchet is a far more versatile tool, and can do anything the saw can do, in addition to the things I originally mentioned. A saw may work a little faster, but it's also dead weight, and I would suggest putting it in your BOL, if anywhere, rather than carrying it with you while on the run. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
timberrattler	15. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 14 2010, 1:26 PM EST "And that was my argument against a saw. The hatchet is a far more versatile tool, and can do anything the saw can do, in addition to the things I originally mentioned. A saw may work a little faster, but it's also dead weight, and I would suggest putting it in your BOL, if anywhere, rather than carrying it with you while on the run." Facepalm....Pounds head against keyboard The saw I'm suggesting is a folder that won't take up much more room than a good sized knife. Didn't follow the link did ya? What did you think I was talking about? A chainsaw? The Sawvivor lets you switch out blades. Ever see someone butcher a deer and instead of sawing through the bone take a hatchet to it? What about a locked fence? You take a hachet and I'll take a saw with a metal blade. Who do you think will get done first without doing serious harm to their blade? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
IthroZada	16. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 14 2010, 1:28 PM EST "And that was my argument against a saw. The hatchet is a far more versatile tool, and can do anything the saw can do, in addition to the things I originally mentioned." Now, while a bit larger than a hatchet, wouldn't an Entrenching Tool be even more versatile? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrenching_tool Not the Nato version, the Soviet version. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
brandon_a_boyer	17. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 14 2010, 4:59 PM EST Anyone who says that a saw wouldn't be worthwhile has never had to cut thick branches into logs for firewood. You could easily make five cuts with a saw in the time it would take you to get through a log with a hatchet. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Happyman0	18. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 14 2010, 7:17 PM EST "Anyone who says that a saw wouldn't be worthwhile has never had to cut thick branches into logs for firewood. You could easily make five cuts with a saw in the time it would take you to get through a log with a hatchet. " Yes. I was just about to say that. I remember one thing about cutting against the grain with a hatchet, it sucked. About the entrenching tool, I am 99% sure it will not work as a hatchet, and would be nearly useless as anything other then a shovel. A weapon maybe, just cross you fingers that zombies can't sprint. What do you think about this? http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/59284-1.html It is a machete with a saw blade on the other side. The reviews aren't bad and the price is right. Anyone own one? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
S.Pro.Ukr	19. RE: People's take on saws. Nov 15 2010, 4:30 PM EST "Facepalm....Pounds head against keyboard The saw I'm suggesting is a folder that won't take up much more room than a good sized knife. Didn't follow the link did ya? What did you think I was talking about? A chainsaw? The Sawvivor lets you switch out blades. Ever see someone butcher a deer and instead of sawing through the bone take a hatchet to it? What about a locked fence? You take a hachet and I'll take a saw with a metal blade. Who do you think will get done first without doing serious harm to their blade? " You got me...I didn't follow the link. But the situations you mentioned wouldn't come up while traveling as much as they would when living in a BOL (except the fence, you climb that). So again, I'd suggest putting it in your BOL, as it is easier to cut with a saw, but on the run, you need to save space and weight, and if a saw has one use, against what a hatchet can do, I'd take the hatchet when running. Post reply Do you find this valuable?