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mahamalamabingbong
mahamalamabingbong
Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 12 2010, 11:43 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 12 2010, 11:43 PM EST
I was thinking, for ragged colonization (large colonies but with poor military training but sufficient arms ) would Guerilla Warfare tactics be useful for confusing and eliminating zombie threats? (This will be used for asaults and similar attacks Do you find this valuable?    
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John_234
John_234
1. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 12 2010, 11:51 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 12 2010, 11:51 PM EST
"I was thinking, for ragged colonization (large colonies but with poor military training but sufficient arms ) would Guerilla Warfare tactics be useful for confusing and eliminating zombie threats? (This will be used for asaults and similar attacks"
I don't see how guerrilla warfare can be applied to a faction that lacks tactics in the first place, or even an infrastructure.
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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
2. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 12:04 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 12:04 AM EST
"I was thinking, for ragged colonization (large colonies but with poor military training but sufficient arms ) would Guerilla Warfare tactics be useful for confusing and eliminating zombie threats? (This will be used for asaults and similar attacks"
Zeds: No.

People: Maybe.

These 'Guerrilla Warfare' Tactics you speak of are of use only against an opponent that is of Military Training & Conventional Warfare tactics.

There's book written on 'Small Unit' Tactics that might be more applicable to your request for info.

In the event of 'Zeds', your best tactics, IMO: Firing Line - intermixed with the 'Australian Peel'.
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nnaruto25
nnaruto25
3. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 12:28 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 12:28 AM EST
"Zeds: No.

People: Maybe.

These 'Guerrilla Warfare' Tactics you speak of are of use only against an opponent that is of Military Training & Conventional Warfare tactics.

There's book written on 'Small Unit' Tactics that might be more applicable to your request for info.

In the event of 'Zeds', your best tactics, IMO: Firing Line - intermixed with the 'Australian Peel'. "
I'd say the guerilla warfare tactics is like minute men, poor training but high fire power.

Also i honestly will need some great tactics. I only know a few tactics..
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John_234
John_234
4. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 12:39 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 12:39 AM EST
"I'd say the guerilla warfare tactics is like minute men, poor training but high fire power.

Also i honestly will need some great tactics. I only know a few tactics.."
Guerrilla warfare isn't based around the skill of the combatants or the available weaponry. It simply means unconventional warfare, in circumstances where you would not be able to win a head-on battle.

The Vietcong tunnel based fighting was guerrilla warfare. If a modern US infantry division hid by the road to ambush a X faction armor column, that is also guerrilla warfare.
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nnaruto25
nnaruto25
5. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 12:48 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 12:48 AM EST
"Guerrilla warfare isn't based around the skill of the combatants or the available weaponry. It simply means unconventional warfare, in circumstances where you would not be able to win a head-on battle.

The Vietcong tunnel based fighting was guerrilla warfare. If a modern US infantry division hid by the road to ambush a X faction armor column, that is also guerrilla warfare. "
Oh i see now, guerilla warfare is just getting an unfair advantage correct?
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John_234
John_234
6. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 12:57 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 12:57 AM EST
"Oh i see now, guerilla warfare is just getting an unfair advantage correct?"
Well, terms in war don't have a moral connotation, generally.

But, not really. Guerrilla warfare literally means, unconventional warfare. It just means you're fighting differently than the norm for the battlefield.
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nnaruto25
nnaruto25
7. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 1:01 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 1:01 AM EST
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AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
8. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 1:34 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 1:34 AM EST
Actually the most effective tool of guerilla warfare is the fear it instills on the people it's used against. That fat gun historian from the military channel did an hour long special about.

Against an enemy that potentially is unable to fear for it's life, guerilla tactics would be pointless. Save booby traps for raiders and as a warnin that your perimeter is breached. Those automated motion detecting machine guns from Congo would be the **** too.
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Maricely
Maricely
9. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 2:15 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 2:28 AM EST
I was just reading Guerrilla Warfare by Che Guevara. You should read it, mainly chapter 2 and onward. I think he was secretly talking about zombie survival. The whole communist murderer thing aside, Che was a good writer.

http://www.smallwars.quantico.usmc.mil/search/articles/cheguevarraonguerrillawarfare.pdf

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Carnack
Carnack
10. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 2:20 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 2:20 AM EST
In Vietnam if the Vietnamese soldiers fought us face to face we would have mopped the floor with them.

They used booby traps and their familiarity with the terrain to counter our numbers.

It was pretty effective. Limit your firetime against your opponent and use traps to not only save time but demoralize the opposition.

With this you need to know A) The terrain and (B how to make lethal traps.
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John_234
John_234
11. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 2:42 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 2:42 AM EST
The Vietcong were literally in the terrain. They hand dug tunnels and caverns entire headquarters, a pain to detect and harder to destroy. In fact, they had the complex of Cu Chi, which extended right into Saigon.

I mean.... liquid partitions for tear gas, trap doors, escape tunnels, above ground firing posts, bomber observation posts (which amplified sound to warn of approaching craft). Even field hospitals complete with surgical theatres. The latter utilized mostly salvaged American equipment, such as parachute silk for wall lining. These places were also the ground for a number of rather unconventional if effective medical techniques.

The only real way to destroy a tunnel was to pound the exact location with bombers, or to send the infamous tunnel rats to clear out and demolish the complex. The Americans burned down, or poisoned entire forests without finding many tunnels.
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IrishHitman
IrishHitman
12. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 5:20 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 5:20 AM EST
"Actually the most effective tool of guerilla warfare is the fear it instills on the people it's used against. That fat gun historian from the military channel did an hour long special about.

Against an enemy that potentially is unable to fear for it's life, guerilla tactics would be pointless. Save booby traps for raiders and as a warnin that your perimeter is breached. Those automated motion detecting machine guns from Congo would be the **** too."
Precisely.

A key part of guerrilla warfare is psychological denial of battlespace.
Though guerrilla warfare is capable of inflicting significant casualties (and is therefore slightly more useful against unfearful enemies than Alex thinks), the psychological effect acts as a force multiplier.

Even in guerrilla versus guerrilla conflicts, which basically require any potential victor to be more innovative than the opponent, the psychological factor is of utmost importance.
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Freelancer47
Freelancer47
13. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 5:31 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 5:31 AM EST
"Precisely.

A key part of guerrilla warfare is psychological denial of battlespace.
Though guerrilla warfare is capable of inflicting significant casualties (and is therefore slightly more useful against unfearful enemies than Alex thinks), the psychological effect acts as a force multiplier.

Even in guerrilla versus guerrilla conflicts, which basically require any potential victor to be more innovative than the opponent, the psychological factor is of utmost importance."
Well... yes & No

Fear with Guerrilla warfare & standard warfare can amount to the same thing.

No, in this aspect- In Iraq the U.S. is experiencing 'Guerrilla Warfare' & is still conducting it's operations through out the state.

Yes--- in the aspect of the fact that U.S. forces ( & other nation states ) have their 'Commando Unit's' do the same thing ( I.E. Subterfuge, Spying, Guerrilla Warfare, etc... )

There's something I'm not thinking of, I apologize.
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timberrattler
timberrattler
14. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 7:17 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 7:17 AM EST
I'm going to say yes. The way small pockets of humanity will have to deal with a zombie threat will have to be inventive and out side the box. We will not be a military powerhouse we will be ordinary everyday citizens.

A big shipload of ammo is not coming. The fuel truck is not going to pull up to refill your car. Aid that military is accustomed to will not be there. Who will be the resistance? You, me, the little old lady down the street.

Guerilla warfare in my eyes is a state of mind. Taking what little you have and making it work for you to me is guerilla warfare. Facing overwhelming force with your wits and doing whatever it takes to win is guerilla warfare.

When push comes to shove this ol' silverback will deploy whatever tactics pop into his head. I'm no military strategiest, I hope to be a problem solver.
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herrteufelhund
herrteufelhund
15. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 9:24 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 9:24 AM EST
And as I’m not a general nor do I claim to be one however I will put my two cents in. I feel in a survival situation even with well armed, well trained and well supplied small unit they will not have the ability to mount any sort of realistic offensive against zombies, raiders ect. I do not see the logic in charging into the muzzles of the guns so to speak. I see very few reasons to commit my limited supply into combat even if we’re talking about Zeds. I strongly believe that most people who try and mount any sort of offensive against zombies raiders ect will eventually get you and your killed. I agree with Timber. Call it a guerilla mindset or whatever you want but you will need a warrior mindset, that will to survive to do so. Do you find this valuable?    
IrishHitman
IrishHitman
16. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 3:48 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 3:48 PM EST
"Well... yes & No

Fear with Guerrilla warfare & standard warfare can amount to the same thing.

No, in this aspect- In Iraq the U.S. is experiencing 'Guerrilla Warfare' & is still conducting it's operations through out the state.

Yes--- in the aspect of the fact that U.S. forces ( & other nation states ) have their 'Commando Unit's' do the same thing ( I.E. Subterfuge, Spying, Guerrilla Warfare, etc... )

There's something I'm not thinking of, I apologize. "
The Iraqi resistance is splintered, erratic, changes sides and does not use what could be considered traditional guerrilla tactics. What I mean by that is that they are not constantly innovating at the level necessary to fight the US to a stalemate, never mind victory.

Compared with the PIRA, ETA, FARC, or the 26th of July Movement, the Iraqis are amateur hour.

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Frag-12
Frag-12
17. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 4:09 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 4:09 PM EST
I think overkill is the best for Zombies. They are like fighting terminators except much weaker and less cunning. But like the terminators, you do not want them to get a hold of you. As for small groups of the living either do not engage them unless you have to or snipe them from a distance.

If you are talking about Guerrilla tactics such as ambushing and then tactical or full retreat. Why? You will need to apply fire discipline because of a potential ammunition shortage. If you want to because you feel that you should to save the human race then maybe you should make some bows and arrows and use horses. Quickly engage and then disengage the zeds.
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Birdman44
Birdman44
18. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 8:24 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 8:24 PM EST
"In Vietnam if the Vietnamese soldiers fought us face to face we would have mopped the floor with them.

They used booby traps and their familiarity with the terrain to counter our numbers.

It was pretty effective. Limit your firetime against your opponent and use traps to not only save time but demoralize the opposition.

With this you need to know A) The terrain and (B how to make lethal traps."
Casualties vs. casualties I'm pretty sure we still mopped the floor with them in that area.. But thats besides the point. If it ever comes to for me to have to kill something I'm doing it the only way I've learned how, using hunting techniques. Being as that's the only way I kill things and know how to kill them (legally of course).
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zombie_odom
zombie_odom
19. RE: Guerilla Warfare Tactics
Jan 13 2010, 8:38 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 13 2010, 8:38 PM EST
" If it ever comes to for me to have to kill something I'm doing it the only way I've learned how, using hunting techniques. Being as that's the only way I kill things and know how to kill them (legally of course)."
That's a good idea but understanding different tactics both Guerilla and Conventional will keep your forces adaptable and effective. Understanding what to do in any situation whether you have the stronger forces or weaker, offensive and defensive

Let's say you became the hunted, but couldn't flee how would you keep your assests safe and secure?

Compare it to Z-Day and almost all tactices developed in previous wars will still be effective.

Soldiers are a different story all together as hunters. Soldiers have learned valuble lessons from hunters over the years but to fight a war a hunter is trained Militia at best
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