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JohnHarrison
JohnHarrison
California.
Jan 29 2010, 9:30 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 29 2010, 9:30 PM EST
I have a Hypothetical question of strategy. I'm writing a feature length screenplay, about teen pregnancy...

And zombies too.

Anyways, Because I don't really know, What would the army do if a massive outbreak of zombies occurred in Coastal California? What I had was a temporary relocation of all refugees to a point away from the unspecified town, and then further removal to Sacramento, which is far enough away. Another reason for this would be that as a city, Sacramento is more sprawled out than say, San Francisco, and therefore easier to contain.

But I don't know sh*t about anything, so please enlighten me.

Also, what would a trained, but scared soldier do in a situation where a mob is approaching only some of which is infected.

And thirdly in a situation where a convoy of vehicles (Humvees, APC's school buses, anything with wheels) are escaping a compromised city, and civilians lay themselves down in front and block the vehicles' ability to escape, and mobs of infected and uninfected civilians are swarming the vehicles.

and also, is it possible for infected blood to contaminate the water supply of a city?

Can anyone give suggestions, and help eliminate plot holes?
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JohnHarrison
JohnHarrison
1. RE: California.
Jan 29 2010, 9:31 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 29 2010, 9:31 PM EST
oh, and you guys are gonna love this:
I've never been to california.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
2. RE: California.
Jan 30 2010, 2:23 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 30 2010, 2:23 AM EST
I can only talk about the possible biology, rather than the army response.

Blood borne pathogen infecting the water supply? It would need to be able to survive and replicate in the water. Since most water is treated with chlorine, and is at a temperature well below the human body, it needs to be hardy enough to cope with that.

Research Legionella. But mostly just research pathogens. Any behaviour is explainable, provided you have a good backing of information.
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JohnHarrison
JohnHarrison
3. RE: California.
Feb 4 2010, 6:01 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2010, 6:01 PM EST
can anyone offer any advice about military procedure? Do you find this valuable?    

MajorDamage
4. RE: California.
Feb 4 2010, 6:36 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2010, 6:36 PM EST
Most of PRC-East is already a DMZ

Cal-i-forn-ya No Doubt about it
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EgAce
EgAce
5. RE: California.
Feb 4 2010, 7:16 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2010, 7:16 PM EST
I'm live just south of Sacramento, so if you have a specific/regional qustion, ask me. Do you find this valuable?    

MajorDamage
6. RE: California.
Feb 4 2010, 8:09 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2010, 8:09 PM EST
"I'm live just south of Sacramento, so if you have a specific/regional qustion, ask me."
I pity you.
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EgAce
EgAce
7. RE: California.
Feb 4 2010, 10:07 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2010, 10:07 PM EST
"I pity you."
For which reason? That I live right next to a major city? Or that I live in a gun control center? Or is there another reason?
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VampireKiller111
VampireKiller111
8. RE: California.
Feb 5 2010, 1:14 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 1:17 AM EST
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MajorDamage
9. RE: California.
Feb 5 2010, 6:06 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 6:06 AM EST
"For which reason? That I live right next to a major city? Or that I live in a gun control center? Or is there another reason?"
All of those reasons (good summary) but also because of your demographics, political leadership (all levels), taxation, geography (some good though and you have better weather than DPR-MD) plus your choices of escape (to where).

I may be wrong, but if you can find a fertile valley or area that can be isolated and defended near you, get to it in time and secure it, you could do well after all.
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SGTGerman
SGTGerman
10. RE: California.
Feb 5 2010, 6:40 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 6:40 AM EST
"I have a Hypothetical question of strategy. I'm writing a feature length screenplay, about teen pregnancy...

And zombies too.

Anyways, Because I don't really know, What would the army do if a massive outbreak of zombies occurred in Coastal California? What I had was a temporary relocation of all refugees to a point away from the unspecified town, and then further removal to Sacramento, which is far enough away. Another reason for this would be that as a city, Sacramento is more sprawled out than say, San Francisco, and therefore easier to contain.

But I don't know sh*t about anything, so please enlighten me.

Also, what would a trained, but scared soldier do in a situation where a mob is approaching only some of which is infected.

And thirdly in a situation where a convoy of vehicles (Humvees, APC's school buses, anything with wheels) are escaping a compromised city, and civilians lay themselves down in front and block the vehicles' ability to escape, and mobs of infected and uninfected civilians are swarming the vehicles.

and also, is it possible for infected blood to contaminate the water supply of a city?

Can anyone give suggestions, and help eliminate plot holes?"
I'm no expert but for the military question - quarantine. Surround the infected area. No one goes in or out. Shoot on site.

But most people use a "level" structure i.e. "Level 1" outbreak, "level 2" etc etc. So it just depends.
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zombiehunt33r
11. RE: California.
Feb 5 2010, 6:39 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 6:39 PM EST
"I have a Hypothetical question of strategy. I'm writing a feature length screenplay, about teen pregnancy...

And zombies too.

Anyways, Because I don't really know, What would the army do if a massive outbreak of zombies occurred in Coastal California? What I had was a temporary relocation of all refugees to a point away from the unspecified town, and then further removal to Sacramento, which is far enough away. Another reason for this would be that as a city, Sacramento is more sprawled out than say, San Francisco, and therefore easier to contain.

But I don't know sh*t about anything, so please enlighten me.

Also, what would a trained, but scared soldier do in a situation where a mob is approaching only some of which is infected.

And thirdly in a situation where a convoy of vehicles (Humvees, APC's school buses, anything with wheels) are escaping a compromised city, and civilians lay themselves down in front and block the vehicles' ability to escape, and mobs of infected and uninfected civilians are swarming the vehicles.

and also, is it possible for infected blood to contaminate the water supply of a city?

Can anyone give suggestions, and help eliminate plot holes?"
i live in California and me and my friend have been coming up with some theorys
of how the apocalypse would start right now were thinking between a country makes a disease as a biological weapon or they accidently let it break out or a form of rabies mutates and keeps there victims alive instead of killing them and use its host to keep the virus alive by taking control of the brain and feeding on flesh
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Conmiro
Conmiro
12. RE: California.
Feb 5 2010, 6:51 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 6:51 PM EST
"i live in California and me and my friend have been coming up with some theorys
of how the apocalypse would start right now were thinking between a country makes a disease as a biological weapon or they accidently let it break out or a form of rabies mutates and keeps there victims alive instead of killing them and use its host to keep the virus alive by taking control of the brain and feeding on flesh"
I'm not going to be mean.
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Maricely
Maricely
13. RE: California.
Feb 5 2010, 7:20 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 5 2010, 7:20 PM EST
"All of those reasons (good summary) but also because of your demographics, political leadership (all levels), taxation, geography (some good though and you have better weather than DPR-MD) plus your choices of escape (to where).

I may be wrong, but if you can find a fertile valley or area that can be isolated and defended near you, get to it in time and secure it, you could do well after all."
What's wrong with the demographics of Sacramento?
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EgAce
EgAce
14. RE: California.
Feb 6 2010, 1:07 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 6 2010, 1:07 AM EST
"All of those reasons (good summary) but also because of your demographics, political leadership (all levels), taxation, geography (some good though and you have better weather than DPR-MD) plus your choices of escape (to where).

I may be wrong, but if you can find a fertile valley or area that can be isolated and defended near you, get to it in time and secure it, you could do well after all."
Thank you.

The entire valley is fertile here, so that's not a problem. But, I don't believe it very defensible. I do suppose there are some positions that might work. The problem is that for miles upon miles around me, it is flat. Utterly flat. And person filled. If I was going to make my escape, i would do it to the east or south, as even though this would provide no close defensible positions, it would be best for escape, as farmland is minutes away (by car). Nature offers only bounty, and not protection here. I do need to look much more at the maps though.
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JohnHarrison
JohnHarrison
15. RE: California.
Feb 6 2010, 5:30 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 6 2010, 5:30 PM EST
"I'm live just south of Sacramento, so if you have a specific/regional qustion, ask me."
Okay, thanks
1 could you describe the terrain around you?
2 how out of place would an earthquake be?
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EgAce
EgAce
16. RE: California.
Feb 6 2010, 6:48 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 6 2010, 6:48 PM EST
"Okay, thanks
1 could you describe the terrain around you?
2 how out of place would an earthquake be?
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1: North: Sacramento, lots of people, overpasses, freeways, streets are kind of narrowish (or mine could be largish). Very urban. West and south: Flat, (was cleared by humans, but was mostly flat before) with the occasional hill, rice patty, and some rivers. Huge farms/plots of land. East: A lot of smaller farms, ranches, etc.

How far out exactly? If you send me coordinates, I could describe it much better. I am in Elk Grove.

2: An earthquake would be extremely out of the ordinary, as we have natural cusioning from the actual land underneath us. We have the occasional (like: wait, the water in that cup is wobbling a little bit, how odd) tremor whenever something big happens on the coast. This hasn't happened since I've been born (15 years), so very rarely do we get something noticeable.

However, if you want a huge flood or something, you can get that without an earthquake here.
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JohnHarrison
JohnHarrison
17. RE: California.
Feb 7 2010, 1:35 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 7 2010, 1:35 PM EST
"1: North: Sacramento, lots of people, overpasses, freeways, streets are kind of narrowish (or mine could be largish). Very urban. West and south: Flat, (was cleared by humans, but was mostly flat before) with the occasional hill, rice patty, and some rivers. Huge farms/plots of land. East: A lot of smaller farms, ranches, etc.

How far out exactly? If you send me coordinates, I could describe it much better. I am in Elk Grove.

2: An earthquake would be extremely out of the ordinary, as we have natural cusioning from the actual land underneath us. We have the occasional (like: wait, the water in that cup is wobbling a little bit, how odd) tremor whenever something big happens on the coast. This hasn't happened since I've been born (15 years), so very rarely do we get something noticeable.

However, if you want a huge flood or something, you can get that without an earthquake here."
Thanks so much.

The bit about the earthquake is an idea for an alternative ending, where the world ends and everyone dies except for two people. I was just wondering how surprised I should make everyone. I might Have a flood too, while I am at it!
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JohnHarrison
JohnHarrison
18. RE: California.
Feb 25 2010, 10:12 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 25 2010, 10:12 PM EST
does it snow much? Do you find this valuable?    
EgAce
EgAce
19. RE: California.
Feb 26 2010, 12:45 AM EST | Post edited: Feb 26 2010, 12:45 AM EST
"does it snow much?"
In the valley? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

No. The last time it snowed (and hit the ground) was in the 70's, and then, you couln't make a snowball out of it. That's how little. (I know from my dad). If you want it to snow, go to the foothills, or the north. IDK if San fran ever gets it, but the sacramento area dosn't.

What're you trying to accomplish with the plot, etc? I could probably come up with a few ideas to help you out.
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