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Carnack |
The Disabled
Feb 4 2010, 4:44 PM EST
Here is something to think about.You are the the leader of a large group of survivors (200) in a very well-defended settlement. The whole settlement has a large supply of food as well as well-tended gardens and livestock. You also have a clean well that was dug and so you have water as well. A woman in your settlement Marie is 26 and is "married" to 28-year-old Jacob. The pair of them for the past year had been trying to concieve and had finally succeeded a few short months ago. The camp had huddled together outside their hovel as the settlements doctor helped her birth their child. A few hours later the doctor comes out looking apprehensive. The child, a boy was perfectly healthy save for one thing. His leg was missing a foot and was unable to easily bend at the knee. Some members of your settlement have proposed euthanizing the child claiming it to just be a drain. So you can A) give in to their wishes and gently kill the baby. B) Allow the child to live among you and simply teach him ways to make himself useful. C) Allow the child to live but exile the baby and its parents D) Other. No right answers. Be kind. I'm new at the whole scenario thing. A woman in your camp 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
kinelta |
1. RE: The Disabled
Feb 4 2010, 6:16 PM EST
B. The child is healthy save for a leg. His health is reason enough to let him live because he would not be incapable in any other way other than his ability to do things that require it's use. There are plenty of other things that can be done and are useful.Even if he wasn't useful, I still take issue with someone else deciding what his fate should be. It is an open avenue for other abuses based on someone else's idea of "quality of life." Do you find this valuable? |
Kam47 |
2. RE: The Disabled
Feb 4 2010, 8:17 PM EST
I didn't see this option but....I'd leave it up to the parents. However, since the child will not be able to work for the betterment of the society (physical labor), one or both of the parents must be willing to work harder to pick up the slack when he comes of age. However, i'm sure we can find something he can do, like watch the walls from some makeshift tower (like a pirate crows nest).
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zachy_vengeance |
3. RE: The Disabled
Feb 4 2010, 8:29 PM EST
If there's 200 other survivors for work and the colony is well fortified and self-sufficiant with no lack of food or water then you'd have no reason to kill the kid so I'd let him live.
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AlexHigginbotham |
4. RE: The Disabled
Feb 4 2010, 9:17 PM EST
A or B, probably B. Turn him into a think rather than a laborer. Educate him and train him to be a leader rather than a follower.
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MajorDamage |
5. RE: The Disabled
Feb 4 2010, 9:25 PM EST
Some thoughts:the 'This is Sparta" mindset will depend on the size, temperment and make up of the group (no morality intended or presupposed here) (A) Using firearms (being a sniper for example) doesn't require legs for the shooting part. The wheelchair was invented for this sort of thing. There a number of things/jobs that don't involve running or walking. It's possible a prostetic limb (knowledge, technology, existing one) can be found or made. Why get rid of 2.5 people? Overcrowding? (C) It's B. Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
6. RE: The Disabled
Feb 5 2010, 12:30 AM EST
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"I didn't see this option but....I'd leave it up to the parents. However, since the child will not be able to work for the betterment of the society (physical labor), one or both of the parents must be willing to work harder to pick up the slack when he comes of age. However, i'm sure we can find something he can do, like watch the walls from some makeshift tower (like a pirate crows nest)."*edited for interference* Do you find this valuable? |
182crazyking |
7. RE: The Disabled
Feb 5 2010, 12:56 AM EST
Are you kidding!? Give him a prosthetic (spelling?) leg. I know a guy at my school, he has an entire prosthetic leg, and IIRC it's over his knee. That guy is more athletic than I am.Still, if I'm missing the problem, name him Stockholm (This is an in-joke, tell me if you get it), train him with a sniper rifle, and let him pick off any zeds that wander too close. You don't need a good leg to look down a sight and pull a trigger. Do you find this valuable? |
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Kam47 |
8. RE: The Disabled
Feb 5 2010, 1:01 AM EST
"name him Stockholm (This is an in-joke, tell me if you get it),"is that fallout? Do you find this valuable? |
Conmiro |
9. RE: The Disabled
Feb 6 2010, 11:16 PM EST
"is that fallout?"No. THAT IS SPARTA!!!!! Do you find this valuable? |
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AlexHigginbotham |
10. RE: The Disabled
Feb 6 2010, 11:21 PM EST
"Are you kidding!? Give him a prosthetic (spelling?) leg. I know a guy at my school, he has an entire prosthetic leg, and IIRC it's over his knee. That guy is more athletic than I am.THIS IS MADNESS!!! Do you find this valuable? |
Maricely |
11. RE: The Disabled
Feb 6 2010, 11:35 PM EST
"THIS IS MADNESS!!!"I'm terribly sorry to inform you that this is in fact Sparta. Do you find this valuable? |
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Tollymain |
12. RE: The Disabled
Feb 7 2010, 12:26 AM EST
Concerning the sniper angle... If you train the child to be an efficient, effective marksman early on, they will surpass the skill of those who must split their efforts between defensive preparations and daily life. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QED, *****. Do you find this valuable? |
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182crazyking |
13. RE: The Disabled
Feb 7 2010, 1:28 AM EST
"is that fallout?"Yeah, Fallout 3. The guard of Megaton. And this is not Sparta. If I remember correctly, THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Do you find this valuable? |
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Carnack |
14. RE: The Disabled
Feb 7 2010, 2:53 AM EST
"No.Actually Stockholm was a sniper who lived in Fallout 3s Megaton. Do you find this valuable? |
PedroAsani |
15. RE: The Disabled
Feb 7 2010, 5:57 AM EST
"Yeah, Fallout 3. The guard of Megaton.Actually... THIS IS THE INTERNET! Do you find this valuable? |
SGTGerman |
16. RE: The Disabled
Feb 7 2010, 6:20 AM EST
"Actually...Actually... THIS IS Rather confusing. How does Sparta fit into this and what if its the USA? If it was Sparta then you would have most likely been left on the hillside to die for not being healthy. As for the disabled, plenty of jobs for them. Clerks, snipers as one person mentioned. Do you find this valuable? |
FracturedCell |
17. RE: The Disabled
Feb 7 2010, 7:33 AM EST
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Personally, I would go for option B, and train him as a second line of thought (not a yes-man). Failing that, train him as a lookout, with a sufficently camoflaged post.Either that, or build him a fibreglass prosthetic leg (not too difficult to do for me, as I have the knowhow, and the facilities, barring the actual attachment. That would take a bit of bodging, but hey.) Definitely keep him alive, and why would you exile 2.5 healthy people and their hyenas (another in-joke), and lose the labour force? EDIT: Spelling Do you find this valuable? |
byates |
18. RE: The Disabled
Feb 7 2010, 2:58 PM EST
BDisability would not prevent him from becoming a productive member of society. Carve a foot out of wood when he starts to learn to walk. Do you find this valuable? |
JPTank |
19. RE: The Disabled
Feb 7 2010, 3:49 PM EST
B- meh, the kid can live. If I lost my hand or an eye, I'd just go captain hook or get an ipatch, I'd still be of use.. The kid is missing a foot, yea, but he has another one. And a little bit of "jungle medicine" can give him a new prosthetic one... Almost like a shoe he would put on the stub.
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