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Rocketman52 |
Barge Farmers
Feb 13 2010, 8:44 PM EST
The basic ideas of my plan are down. What does everyone think? Does anyone think its a good idea? And intrested in pulling off a similar plan elsewhere?
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sakamatana5 |
1. RE: Barge Farmers
Feb 19 2010, 9:48 PM EST
You have a flipping FS2000? WHERE DO YOU LIVE AND HOW CAN I LIVE THERE! I live in RI and (as far as I know)the only thing we get to carry are shotguns and 22s (legally of course). I like the idea, but it seems like you're closing yourself in (which is good, but you'd want human contact). As for the island fortress, I think that is bad. If you read WWZ you'd know that the zombies would wash up on your shore and lay waste to everything. I think the best idea would be to stay and maintain the barges. It is safer and puts lets resources/people at risk.P.S. Congrats on being the first person that did not piss me off with their plan. Did you read the one with the guy building a fort at a BJ's? How the hell many zombies do you think are going to be there? More than you can handle THATS how many! Do you find this valuable? |
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Rocketman52 |
2. RE: Barge Farmers
Feb 19 2010, 11:34 PM EST
"You have a flipping FS2000? WHERE DO YOU LIVE AND HOW CAN I LIVE THERE! . . . . .Haha to answer your first question, I live near Pittsburgh, PA, and my dad bought said weapon off of Gunbroker.com. I still havnt shot it, but Ive held it, played around with it a little, and it is nice. Haha If I did wish to make human contact (if, big if. I do not trust anyone, as raiders could be prevelant), it would require a sort of system (the likes of which I have seen elsewhere on this site). I would post a sign in town, near where we are located, with a message and a few flares. The sign would say to fire off a flare, and wait for contact - the area would have been set up to favor our side in any sort of conflict. Alternitavely, we could set up a radio. There would be instructions on how to turn it on and contact us. I actually just finished reading WWZ again today, and yes I understand the risks of the island; however, the barges can only supply so much food, and to have it supplied by land would be more.... effecient, I beleive. If we had the base on shore, we could make high walls all around, and turn the river acess into a sort of deepwater port, to avoid undead visitors. Hahaha thanks. Seriously, that means a lot. I have seen some I do not like, but to each his own, eh? Do you find this valuable? |
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Rocketman52 |
3. RE: Barge Farmers
Feb 20 2010, 11:18 PM EST
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Couldnt fit this in my last post, so I gotta post again.I finally got a chance to put some rounds through the SU16 and the FS2000 today. Oh, my, Lord. I love the FS. Its incredible. Im now doubting which weapon to take with me: the FS or the M1 Carbine. Perhaps the FS, since it uses the same ammo as the SU (EDIT: I forgot to mention, they both share the same rounds and clips with our AR-15), therefore, ammo compatibility. IMO, the FS has a low recoil, is comfortable to hold, is ambidestrous (good for me!), and is accurate. I built a small snowman a good distance in my yard (poor guy was only as tall as my stomach). On the first clip, only 11 rounds in the 30 round clip, every shot went through the snowmans mid section except two: one in his head, and one in his lower section. However, as accurate as this weapon is, the factory sights are terrible. Its nearly impossible to even see your target. We will get a holographic sight as soon as possible. I love this gun. I also fired the Kel-Tec. It is a pretty nice weapon - light, acurrate, resonable recoil. The recoil is worse than the FS, making faster shots more difficult. However, the standard iron sights are superb. It might be a bit lighter than the FS, and the fact that it folds means it can fit in a backpact. Also, the front grip splits and becomes a bipod - not an entirely useful one, but a nice feature. So either way they are both very very nice weapons. If you can, I would deffinitely recommend getting the FS2000. Im in love! Edit: Spacing Do you find this valuable? |
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Rocketman52 |
4. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 22 2010, 7:11 PM EDT
I hate to seem like the only one posting on my own thread, but I am. Ha. In any case, I need help on several issues, and I'll be adding more as I go.First off, I am very reluctant to let our horses go... In our future shore fortress, we could use horses for plowing, patroling, and more, but before we get there, how would we take care of them? The best solution I have so far is to dedicate a barge strictly to the horses - a large amount of space, and it would be difficult to get them in and out of the barge. Also, I would like to obtain cows for the fortress, but how? As far as I can see, we could only wait til the fortress is built and then go out looking for surviving cows. Any better ideas? Do you find this valuable? |
ItsMrManCub |
5. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 22 2010, 7:27 PM EDT
one good thing about having the horses is not only does it provide transportation but also will let you carry more supplies back if you ever have to go out scouting...bring one of your barges on the miss. river or lol the sabine or neches if thats possible and pick me up
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ItsMrManCub |
6. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 22 2010, 7:30 PM EDT
speaking of the barges they could always be beached or anchored offshore nearby once a decient base of operations is up and running and if its every overrun just pull back to the barges
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Rocketman52 |
7. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 22 2010, 11:04 PM EDT
"speaking of the barges they could always be beached or anchored offshore nearby once a decient base of operations is up and running and if its every overrun just pull back to the barges"Yep thats the plan. They will stay in operation even after the fortress is built. However, Im not sure I ould beach them - that would depend on whether i could get that back into the river. Do you find this valuable? |
DevilNuts |
8. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 23 2010, 2:49 AM EDT
I've never cared for horses before, but don't they eat grass? I mean, there's grass all over the place in PA. It can't be that hard to feed a horse.... maybe in the winter.
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AlexHigginbotham |
9. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 23 2010, 3:31 AM EDT
Rocket...What do you think about the casing ejection system on the FS2000? I'm not a big fan of it, but I want the opinion on someone who actually owns the rifle.
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ItsMrManCub |
10. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 23 2010, 8:51 AM EDT
"Yep thats the plan. They will stay in operation even after the fortress is built. However, Im not sure I ould beach them - that would depend on whether i could get that back into the river."you can always anchor if you have an extra boat to ferry you back and forth between land and the barge Do you find this valuable? |
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Rocketman52 |
11. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 23 2010, 4:06 PM EDT
"I've never cared for horses before, but don't they eat grass? I mean, there's grass all over the place in PA. It can't be that hard to feed a horse.... maybe in the winter. "Yes, of course, the horses eat grass, but if zombies were to break out we couldnt exactly leave them in a pasture on shore. Theyd be eaten pretty quick! Ha. We could ferry them back and forth between shore, and will probly do that at points, but if the horses panic, as suggested in the ZSG, and with one of our horses, a very likely possiblity, it would be dangerous for the horse and the rider to move them with the undead around. Also, the very boat itself could scare them. Alex, the FS2000's case ejection is certainly intresting. When I shot it, it didnt have a profound effect on my shooting - as I understand, it was designed for combat stuations - keeping the shells off the guy directly to your right. So until I get into a combat situation, its isintresting, kind of a novelty, but in no way detrimental to the weapon's efficiency. And lastly, Cub, thats the plan. There are all sorts of boats and docks around the river, and the previous owners wont have a use for them as they shuffle around. The only question with the horses is moving them back and forth - how feasible and dangerous is that? And another question - what if there are many other survivors on boats - if they threaten to fight to take over our barge. Would we simply have to fight them off? Or might there be a (non military/police) solution? Do you find this valuable? |
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DevilNuts |
12. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 23 2010, 6:34 PM EDT
Well if its PA, chances are everybody involved will be armed to the teeth so I would avoid hostile confrontation wherever possible. You can attempt to disguise your barge to make it look less appealing to observers. If you have to fight to defend it, I would recommend a "Guardian Angel" position set up, which is someone who has complete overwatch of the area and is in a tactically superior position from the start. If sh!t pops off, everybody go to cover and let the GA do his job -- the bad guys will get tore up pretty quickly and are likely to leave you alone after that. Do you find this valuable? |
AlexAtWork |
13. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 23 2010, 6:38 PM EDT
I really don't understand why they develop weapons with all these bits and pieces that are designed specifically around organized combat when the likelyhood they will be used by a sanctioned army is extremely low.Do you find this valuable? |
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Rocketman52 |
14. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 23 2010, 7:41 PM EDT
"I really don't understand why they develop weapons with all these bits and pieces that are designed specifically around organized combat when the likelyhood they will be used by a sanctioned army is extremely low.The FS2000 is used by both police forces and special operations. So this weapon is actually designed with law enforcement in mind. And DevilNuts, I like this idea. Maybe always have at least 2 people in the top of the tugboat, and make sure they are well trained with their weapons? The only problem with that is, if there are snipers hiding in the woods, they could take watch for a while and potentially nuetralize us. Which is another thing i could use help with. Snipers and night attacks. Do you find this valuable? |
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ItsMrManCub |
15. RE: Barge Farmers
Mar 27 2010, 5:40 PM EDT
well as for being worried about the horses being scared im sure once they are used to it it would be no problem being around horses for parts of my life i've noticed things like loading them into trailors at first is tough if the are frightened but after they have done it a few times it should be no problem you could always build a platform to ferry them back and forth much like the kind used in the early days of the US to get them across the river...for an example watch the outlaw josey wales with clint eastwood there is a scene with them using such a ferry
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Rocketman52 |
16. RE: Barge Farmers
Apr 8 2010, 4:52 PM EDT
"well as for being worried about the horses being scared im sure once they are used to it it would be no problem being around horses for parts of my life i've noticed things like loading them into trailors at first is tough if the are frightened but after they have done it a few times it should be no problem"That true. Our newest horse it scared to death of trailers, but we're working with him. I saw somewhere else on the site, about how to get your horse used to gun shots. Maby we could do the same with a captured and hog-tied zombie. As for the transport, I guess we will have a lot of time to make the most horse-friendly boat possible. Thanks. Do you find this valuable? |
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ItsMrManCub |
17. RE: Barge Farmers
Apr 8 2010, 5:10 PM EDT
"That true. Our newest horse it scared to death of trailers, but we're working with him. I saw somewhere else on the site, about how to get your horse used to gun shots. Maby we could do the same with a captured and hog-tied zombie. As for the transport, I guess we will have a lot of time to make the most horse-friendly boat possible. Thanks."the sound of my gun should be the last thing a zombie hears i dont want him to get used to it Do you find this valuable? |
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Rocketman52 |
18. RE: Barge Farmers
Apr 8 2010, 6:26 PM EDT
"the sound of my gun should be the last thing a zombie hears i dont want him to get used to it"True its gona attrack some zombies. But I cant silence all our guns in a short time. There will be gun shots. And in any case, I just meant the process could be used to get them used to the scent, sounds, and sights of zombies. Do you find this valuable? |
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ItsMrManCub |
19. RE: Barge Farmers
Apr 9 2010, 4:14 PM EDT
"True its gona attrack some zombies. But I cant silence all our guns in a short time. There will be gun shots. And in any case, I just meant the process could be used to get them used to the scent, sounds, and sights of zombies."ah i understand what you mean introducing it into their enviroment in a controlled dose...Good Idea Do you find this valuable? |
