"Amusing..."

"First off, I apologize if i was misleading, I did not mean to be.
Second, I understand that this thread is not supporting raiding, just stating that it doesnt seem smart.
(Edit: The page this thread was under was clearly supporting raiding; the starter of this thread, however, was not endearing it.)

Third, I understand human nature: as soon as the SHTF, it's basically every man for himself, to get what he wants, as far as he's willing to go (which, also in human nature, is pretty much anything).
My major problem with this entire topic is that we have people who are premeditating and planning to kill and maime in order to get what they want, before we even know if the disaster will happen. If nothing else, shouldnt we be better than this? I know its not the "Zombie Survival and Lets get along Wiki" - this isnt daycare. But really, I know you wouldnt endorse this sort of thing, right, YourMom?
Aslo, as a note, this point of sharing a plan is to have help editing and furthering the idea, helping to perfect the subject. So on this wiki, (if for no moral reason at all) why would members help the raiders that most of us will be defending from?"

"wrong (dont mistake that: Im major pro-guns, right to bear arms, and have no problem with selfdefense or the defense of other innocents).
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"oh,NOW you're Major Pro-guns?

Look, there is a difference between Raiding (taking from others by force) and Scavenging (taking what you find, no apparent owners about).

Not everyone will need to become a raider."

"Damage, where in the world was I not pro-gun? What Im not is pro-murder (there is a difference, regardless of what gun control advocates think). I never had a problem with scavenging - there is a rather large difference between scavenging (for example, lets say from an abandoned house, or town), and actively seeking out living people and killing/stealing. What, you dont see a difference there? They are two entirely different subjects... Am I wrong there?...."

"so...? what would u do when it comes down to
when it really matters? i would gaurentee that it would be every man for themselves"

"i plan on establishing an empire in the california channel islands so me and my group wil l have to use force to gain control of the other islands i will only do this to unite the people under my rule and recreate civiliztion if i have to kill others in the process i will they never saied war was fare except those pussies up in geneva and the damn un trying to conduct how we fight wars it will soon be impossible with them around to get an advantage over your enemiies in war with all these dumb laws."