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herrteufelhund	20. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Feb 22 2010, 1:40 PM EST Heard back from a few far more knowledgeable people then I and none of us can find any recorded instance of and diseases passed in such a manner however as the theory is going if you were to have open cuts sores whatever and that was exposed it could in theory happen. We placed a call to our local Level 1 Trauma center and spoke to the chief ER doctor who agreed with our theory but said he'd give it some thought and see if he could come up with something else (we sold this as an hypothetical situation where an officer shot a suspect who was infected with HIV/AIDS and was exposed to HVBS and if he should get the "Cocktail” or not), Granted this isn't the same thing but at least its a direction to go. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
onearmshortofasoufle	21. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Feb 22 2010, 2:20 PM EST i wonder if the splatter would be affected by the fact that the target you are engaging has no blood flowing through its veins.. but then that opens up the whole "what kind of zombie are you shooting" problem Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ArielT	22. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Feb 25 2010, 3:53 AM EST "Cons: - Peripheral vision is shot" "Visibility There's a myth that's perpetrated by the anti-helmet law faction that claims that motorcycle helmets decrease peripheral vision. The truth is that no motorcycle helmet would last very long in the marketplace if it blocked the owner's view of the road. Every full-face helmet that any of us have ever tried had an opening wider than our peripheral vision. This is easy enough to check when trying on a helmet." The bigger issue I've run into is dampened sound. It's particularly an issue that your ability to judge distance by sound is somewhat distorted by the helmet. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
duttyrock	23. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 2 2010, 9:43 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 2 2010, 9:43 PM EST "http://www.helmets911.com/_images/products/brands/hawk_black_motorcycle_helmet.jpg If you read "The Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks you will notice that he says that you should not wear a helmet because the zombies need it more than you do, but think about it. Scenario: You're in close range (3-5 feet)of a zombie and they are about to attack you. You must attack or they will end your life, but you have to make sure that you do not ingest any part of the,hopefully, soon to be eliminated zombie. You pull out your super awesome shotgun and blast his/her skull to smithereens, but chunks of that jolly dead being fly at your face and you accidently take in some blood and a few hours later your knee deep into your partner's insides. End Scenario. Well that isn't good for anyone and it could've not happened if you just would've worn a helmet. True it my take away your peripheral vision, but you wont need it if your party is looking in those directions and even if a zed head got close enough it is just going to bite the helmet and then get its brains blown in. Long story short: Pros: - Protects head/neck - Doesn't allow you to ingest fluids from enemy - Can deflect glare (depending on brand) - Can be used as a weapon - Is wiped easier than your eyes (blood in eyes takes much longer than blood on visor) Cons: - Can make your head hot - Peripheral vision is shot Any thoughts?" A motorcycle would kill your situational awareness. not only limiting your field of vision but reducing your hearing. If your worried about splatter, wear sometype of eye protection like ISS Goggles and maybe a disposeable face surgical mask. I would also wear Peltor Sound Trap hearing protection. The headphones also amplify background noise, like an electronic "hunters ear". helmets are a waste. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
duttyrock	24. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 2 2010, 9:46 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 2 2010, 9:46 PM EST and for CQB combat, I'd opt for a suppressed 9mm or .22 cal pistol. A shotgun sounds cool, but its overkill. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Survivor15	25. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 2 2010, 9:49 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 2 2010, 9:49 PM EST "and for CQB combat, I'd opt for a suppressed 9mm or .22 cal pistol. A shotgun sounds cool, but its overkill." -and a .22 is underkill. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
duttyrock	26. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 2 2010, 10:37 PM EST "-and a .22 is underkill." the .22lr has been used for stealthy kills by the Mob, SpecOps community and many others for years. its proven and highly effective. you can go for flashy and impractical, i'll stick with proven and reliable. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
duttyrock	27. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 2 2010, 10:40 PM EST "the .22lr has been used for stealthy kills by the Mob, SpecOps community and many others for years. its proven and highly effective. you can go for flashy and impractical, i'll stick with proven and reliable." My bad, Survivor15, just checked your profile. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Survivor15	28. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 3 2010, 5:32 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 3 2010, 5:32 PM EST Yeah lolz, I never said I didn't like it, I just think it isn't effective enough to be compared to something like a shotgun. I wouldn't depend on it if I had the choice. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
cookiegerard	29. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 6 2010, 5:28 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 6 2010, 5:28 PM EST Depends on the situation, moving from place to place.... not so good. But in forced close combat, would work if you had other protection to make up for the lack of peripheral vision. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Pillsbury_dopeboy	30. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 6 2010, 5:58 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 6 2010, 5:58 PM EST Better would be a SWAT helmet and full face gas mask rated lvl II-A, protects you from zombie and bullets, also has a attachment for water tube (keep hydrated while kiling!) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
theghostnthedarkness	31. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 8 2010, 12:39 AM EST i think i would rather have a gas mask because it would be less cubersome then a helmet or just wear a swat team type face sheild it wouldnt be a stuff. and if you are worried about bites or scratches to your head or neck you could make kevlar ski-mask like that guy did in that bank robbery in cali, zombies couldnt bite or scratch through it and it wouldnt be so bulky as a helmet. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Akerris	32. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 8 2010, 8:08 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 8 2010, 8:08 AM EST "i think i would rather have a gas mask because it would be less cubersome then a helmet or just wear a swat team type face sheild it wouldnt be a stuff. and if you are worried about bites or scratches to your head or neck you could make kevlar ski-mask like that guy did in that bank robbery in cali, zombies couldnt bite or scratch through it and it wouldnt be so bulky as a helmet. " Gas masks get hot very quickly, and you'd better have non fogging lenses too. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
theghostnthedarkness	33. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 8 2010, 9:06 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 8 2010, 9:06 AM EST "Gas masks get hot very quickly, and you'd better have non fogging lenses too." the same goes for the motorcycle helmet, its prolly not that stuffy when your riding but if your ingageing in cqc then it would the same problems. it would be nice if somebody would do a test of both. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ArielT	34. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 8 2010, 8:19 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 8 2010, 8:19 PM EST A compromise might by the three quarters motorcycle helmet. They're terrible for actual motorcycle use because they don't protect your neck / chin, but they might fit here just fine. Throw on a baklava and you've got about as much coverage as any swat team. This avoids the issue of fogging and heat build up as well as distorting hearing a bit less. http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/Harley-Three-Quarter-Helmet.jpg Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Counter-Zombie_Unit	35. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 9 2010, 5:02 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 9 2010, 5:02 AM EST I'd take a riot police helmet with a faceshield. I'm not sure how the neck should be fully well guarded against bites and scratches though a scarf may provide a tiny bit of cover....unless the zombie bites in too deep. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
John_234	36. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 9 2010, 5:29 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 9 2010, 5:29 AM EST "the .22lr has been used for stealthy kills by the Mob, SpecOps community and many others for years. its proven and highly effective. you can go for flashy and impractical, i'll stick with proven and reliable." duttyrock, unless you've been involved with any such organizations, you have no ground to make such a claim. Even if you were, you couldn't very well prove it. Logical argument might be an option. On topic: Maybe a clip on face shield, designed for some ballistic helmets would work. I don't mean a visor, but the cover that somewhat resembles a mechanical jaw. Or perhaps one of the gas masks that covers the lower face, and you utilize your own, fog free eye protection. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
hazard1337	37. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 10 2010, 3:01 PM EST rather than a motorcycle helmet, i'd recommend a bandana, a paintball mask, and something to protect the rest of your head. ex.(leather helmet) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
IanKaplan	38. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 10 2010, 8:16 PM EST "http://www.helmets911.com/_images/products/brands/hawk_black_motorcycle_helmet.jpg If you read "The Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks you will notice that he says that you should not wear a helmet because the zombies need it more than you do, but think about it. Scenario: You're in close range (3-5 feet)of a zombie and they are about to attack you. You must attack or they will end your life, but you have to make sure that you do not ingest any part of the,hopefully, soon to be eliminated zombie. You pull out your super awesome shotgun and blast his/her skull to smithereens, but chunks of that jolly dead being fly at your face and you accidently take in some blood and a few hours later your knee deep into your partner's insides. End Scenario. Well that isn't good for anyone and it could've not happened if you just would've worn a helmet. True it my take away your peripheral vision, but you wont need it if your party is looking in those directions and even if a zed head got close enough it is just going to bite the helmet and then get its brains blown in. Long story short: Pros: - Protects head/neck - Doesn't allow you to ingest fluids from enemy - Can deflect glare (depending on brand) - Can be used as a weapon - Is wiped easier than your eyes (blood in eyes takes much longer than blood on visor) Cons: - Can make your head hot - Peripheral vision is shot Any thoughts?" finally, I started a thread about and short range combat causing infection, a motorcycle helmet is just what I was looking for, lets put this one down in the MUST category, Post reply Do you find this valuable?
duttyrock	39. RE: Motorcycle Helmet? Good? Bad? Mar 10 2010, 8:42 PM EST "finally, I started a thread about and short range combat causing infection, a motorcycle helmet is just what I was looking for, lets put this one down in the MUST category," Well, you go right head and wear that motorcycle helmet; with its limited field of view, sound muffling, and unnecessary weight. Make it a colorfully one too. After you re-animate, it will make easier for real survivors to give you rest. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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