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Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 1:13 PM EST
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I'd like your opinions about what I should do when SHTF in regards to staying home or going to my sister's house. By May we should be living in nicer apartments or a house because we're getting military housing this time, but I'd still like help with my current plan, assuming something happens while we're still here. So we (me, my husband and our son) live in San Diego. We're on the "3rd" and top floor of our apartment building, but the apartments are on the side of a hill, so when you walk through the front door, you can climb up one flight of stairs and be on our floor, and pretty close to our apartment too. If you enter the building through the back, then you actually have to go up three flights of stairs. Our apartment is small, we have a balcony with a sliding glass door, and one of our rooms has a floor to ceiling window, which I hate. The apartment building's hallways each have their own lockable metal door. If we closed our hallway door, our apartment and two neighbors would be closed off from the rest of the building. My sister, her husband and their two kids live in a small town about 20 miles north of us and about 6 miles more inland. They live in military housing, so they're (hopefully) surrounded by trained military members, some of them with families. They have a 2 story home with a small backyard and a wooden fence. They also have a sliding glass door, on the ground level. I really hate glass doors, they make me nervous. Obviously if we go to my sister's it would be very early on. From a home defense standpoint, which do you think would be my best option? If you think my sister's house is safer, do you think it's worth the risk of driving over there? Do you find this valuable?
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PedroAsani |
1. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 1:43 PM EST
Would your sister allow you to improve the fortifications at her place pre-Z day? If not, then planning on staying put and improving your place is a better option.Are the windows double glazed? If so, don't worry about them being a security hazard. If not, think about having some furniture to use as a barricade in that room. Since you are planning to move, don't go nuts improving security. If you are going to install better door locks, remember to take them with you to the new place. Really, with a three month window until you move, I would simply concentrate on supplies. If you have moving boxes full of your long term supplies, it won't be such a hassle in May. You don't have to worry about packing and unpacking. Just move the whole box. In fact, moving is a good way to work out just what essentials you really need. Box everything you think you won't need between now and May. If you then need it, maybe it's more worthy than you thought. Conversely, if there is something unboxed that doesn't get used in three months, maybe that is one less thing you need in an emergency? Do you find this valuable? |
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2. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 2:11 PM EST
No, my sister and her husband wouldn't fortify their home, they don't do anything related to preparing or survival. That's my reason for considering going over there. Her and her husband are intelligent adults, and her husbands a Marine, but I'm afraid she wouldn't think clearly in an emergency. I'm just worried about her and my nieces. I'm wasn't planning on improving security here, these apartments are crappy and aren't worth the effort.
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Mortalitus |
3. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 2:33 PM EST
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I've lived in san diego base housing before, if you haven't I suggest not moving in unless you absolutely have to. First of all keep in mind you are not allowed to modify it in any way, and the regulations for upkeep can be a bit of pain at times. Not to mention the huge fee you'll have to pay someone to clean it if you end up moving out( believe me everyone thinks they can pass the final inspection, but they never do). Also depending on your sister's husband's rank it may or may not be legal (base rules) for them to do so. I know for a fact junior enlisted housing you can't have visitors past 30 days. I was divorced before I picked up staffsgt so I can't comment on staffnco housing policies. Now what I do not like about your current arrangement is the hillside, it's a natural barrier on one end which is good, but to have only one level approach to leave can be a serious drawback if you need to move quickly. I'm not a fan of apartment buildings for survival, mainly because most of the residents in the upper floors will be doing the same thing you are. staying up there and keeping stairways barricaded. This means you will have to deal or survive with people that you may not want to. My advice is get a house closer to your sister (inside 10 miles) most communities surrounding marine corps bases you can find homes for rent or buy relatively cheap as most people around there know that the military although doesn't pay that great, the proposed military tenents have a regular steady income so they lower the price. Just don't make the mistake that living by a military base that the military will defend the area. All base emergencies require the gates of that base to be secured. Do you find this valuable? |
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4. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 3:02 PM EST
I'm not worried about upkeep or cleaning of our new home right now, I'm just talking about home defense. And if I go to my sisters house during an apocalypse type situation, I doubt visitor rules will still apply. As far as where our new home will be situated, we're choosing that based on proximity to my husband's base, not my sister's house.
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5. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 4:39 PM EST
Just bumping this for more opinions.
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kinelta |
6. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 5:27 PM EST
I'd stay where you are at. You are on a third floor, which means that you can barricade the staircase, and then barricade the window. It sounds like you would only have one staircase to worry about with the metal door. It's chancey to be travelling with a child, even if you would leave early on, because you never know how bad things will get in a short period of time. And then what if you can't get on the base, for whatever reason? And fyi, someone once said something about using a garage door for my sliding glass door (I hate them, too and it's why I don't want to stay here when tshtf). It might be something to keep in mind should you find yourself needing some kind of reinforcement for the window. Getting your hands on one might be another matter. Do you find this valuable? |
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7. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 5:58 PM EST
My sister doesn't live on a base, she just lives in a military neighborhood. But good advice.
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8. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 11:36 PM EST
Anyone else?
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Freelancer47 |
9. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 24 2010, 11:57 PM EST
Not much else I can add.*Goes into Sgt. Cujo Mode* If you sister isn't 'Prepared' or even 'Preparing' she's a liability. She will get you killed, or at the very least will be placing you in harms way. Intentionaly or unintentionaly. A Military Neighborhood is a good choice, much better then the idea many people will have of running to a Military base. If the folks there are anything like the folks that lived near Ft. Stewart GA during my time in, it's safe to say many will be armed or have access to firearms. I'd find a place with the least amount of entries & with as little glass as possible.... That's all I got... Do you find this valuable? |
DevilNuts |
10. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 12:20 AM EST
If the housing is on-base, then there is a good chance the base would be locked down in the event of an apocalypse. You wouldn't be able to get out, but with Marines at the gate you can rest assured nobody else would be getting in, either. Camp Pendleton is like a city in itself, with grocery store, hospital, library and just about anything you could need short of an actual walmart. Do you find this valuable? |
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11. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 12:23 AM EST
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"If the housing is on-base, then there is a good chance the base would be locked down in the event of an apocalypse. You wouldn't be able to get out, but with Marines at the gate you can rest assured nobody else would be getting in, either.Again, they're not on a base. I wouldn't even consider going there if they were on a base. @Freelancer I know they're a liability, but they're family, I have to at least consider being with them. Do you find this valuable? |
Jahadaz |
12. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 12:34 AM EST
You know my opinion. lol
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PyroPredator |
13. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 12:45 AM EST
What is the neighborhood like where you and your sister live? Which one has more people per block? It may be safter to go to a location with less people.You may want to try to get your sister at least somewhat prepared. These are dangerous times and everyone should at least have emergency gear. Do you find this valuable? |
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14. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 1:02 AM EST
"What is the neighborhood like where you and your sister live? Which one has more people per block? It may be safter to go to a location with less people.My sister lives in a small town and I'm in San Diego, so there's less people there. I know she should prepare, maybe I'll get her a survival kit for our birthdays. Do you find this valuable? |
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Jahadaz |
15. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 1:19 AM EST
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"What is the neighborhood like where you and your sister live? Which one has more people per block? It may be safter to go to a location with less people.I'm not sure if this is valid, but also check the crime stats. Depending on what type of crimes happen in that area (crimes happen in every area) it could be a good or bad thing. Lots of theft - high raiding potential (especially if these are home invasion thefts) Gangs - Either raiding parties or community effort (depends on your point of view) Drugs - Useless to you. People will be caught unprepared or uncaring Sex crimes - Bad idea. Not saying these people are heathens or anything like that, but, if you knew the end of civilization was coming, what would you do? Everything you have always wanted to do without fear of consequences. There are several other crimes that happen and if the area you are looking at moving into has a high crime rate of one particular type of crime, it might help to think about how these people would react to the Zed invasion. They will be your neighbors and the first contact you have with other survivors. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DevilNuts |
16. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 5:22 AM EST
"....I wouldn't even consider going there if they were on a base.....Contradict much? 3 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Mortalitus |
17. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 9:54 AM EST
"Again, they're not on a base. I wouldn't even consider going there if they were on a base.You said that they lived in military housing in your first post so i'm confused. There are plenty of base housing communities that are con base property but are outside of the gate either way the same regulations I told you about would apply. In fact most base housing is outside the gate. Camp pendleton is an ginormous place as is all usmc bases, just because the housing may be in oceanside does not mean it's not base property so be careful. Do you find this valuable? |
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18. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 1:36 PM EST
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"Contradict much? "Once again, they are not on a base. They live in military housing, but it's a neighborhood 25 minutes away from the base her husband works at. If you want to call it "base housing" instead of "military housing" fine, but that doesn't change the fact that they're not near a base. Do you find this valuable? |
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Mortalitus |
19. RE: Your opinions on what I should do
Feb 25 2010, 2:32 PM EST
"Once again, they are not on a base. They live in military housing, but it's a neighborhood 25 minutes away from the base her husband works at. If you want to call it "base housing" instead of "military housing" fine, but that doesn't change the fact that they're not near a base. "That's what I'm telling you military or base housing whatever you call it does not mean it is ON the base, It means housing that is allotted to service members with families that the government pays for, and 90% of that housing is not on the base, case in point when I was stationed at lejeune my military housing was 7 miles outside of the main gate, in the city of jacksonville,nc. , but it IS still government property, and all on base rules still apply. Pendleton is setup the same way trust me I've been stationed at both. I'm not trying to piss ya off, i just think you may not be fully aware what it is you are referring to.If they live in military housing they must obey the same rules as if the house were ON the base. hence no modifications for survival. Hell you can't even paint the walls they all have to be a uniform color (usually white) Do you find this valuable? |
