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Spartan1190 |
Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 11 2010, 2:03 PM EST
Call me lazy if you want but I don't see the reason of leaving your home or neighborhood. You have an extreme tactical advantage. You know the area and you know your home. I live in a small suburb outside of Chicago, so yes the zombie count will be high, however everything I need is within a 2 minute drive of each other. My house is already slammed with enough weapons and ammunition. Weapons ranging from 1AR-15, 3 Glock 17s, 1 Remington 12 gauge, and various smaller .22 caliber pistols. I have plenty of ammo to intelligently protect myself. Im fortunate to live within under half a mile of a gas station, grocery and hardware store. While I go on a scavenger mission my survivor team, composed of my family will watch and quickly fortify all doors and windows with the huge cache of wood and metal in my garage. 1st order of business for my scavenging loot the grocery store for whatever canned food and water I can get my hands on, and blow any zombie or even human that gets in my way straight to hell. Straight from the grocery store, head to to the hardware to store I will grab whatever amounts of plywood and 2 by 4s I can find. Bug out back to the house and help with the fortification. After that, run as much water as I can into whatever I can, because we know it WILL run out. Canned food? Check. Weapons & Ammo? Check. Water? Check. Fortified holdout? Check. Whatever I need simply jump in the good old Ram 1500 mow down everything in my way, pick it up, and hall ass back to the holdout.
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Knuxz |
1. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 11 2010, 6:17 PM EST
Hate to say it, but i'm not even one of the more respected members here, and i can shotgun some holes in your plan. 1) Yes, you do have a TACTICAl advantage, but LONG-TERM advantages are what you need. 2) The Second the panic sets in people will be maxing out their credit cards getting wood, metal, etc. Also, at the grocery stores. I went to my local Wal-Mart at noon PM on black-friday, and they were closed because they had only two or three things left on the shelves. In a zed-pocalypses, the whole city will be at Wal-Mart. 3) Once you eventually run out of food, water, etc. what will you do? You're screwed. You need to be able to sustain. 4) A house in the middle of Chicago, even with guns, will eventually be over-ran. 5) I hate to say it, but just because you think you are macho with all your guns, eventually you'll wish you would have toned down that money towards guns, and considered moving to the country. XD 6) Good argument. Just trying to put in some input! 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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VagabondVance |
2. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 12 2010, 2:47 AM EST
1.If your Ram is not a diesel, don't count on it lasting you long without fuel.2.Are you proficient with these guns? I've seen many mall ninjas who's daddy owns a gun think that they are the next Rambo because of the time they've spent playing "halo" 3. Guns blazing is just a stupid way to fight, it draws way too much attention, if you really know your neighborhood you should be able to bypass most stragglers. 4. 2x4's are just a waste to carry on your person because you seem to be the only one heading out, unless your truck could make it to the store. Provided no zeds or cars, trees, junk gets in your way. 5. Knuxz already hit all the other major points I would have made 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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DevilNuts |
3. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 12 2010, 3:45 AM EST
"3. Guns blazing is just a stupid way to fight, it draws way too much attention..."This. "Blowing anything to hell" should not be your priority if you are serious about surviving. Conserving your ammo, keeping a low profile and not making enemies is a better option. 5 out of 5 found this valuable. Do you? |
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SoulDeparted |
4. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 12 2010, 7:33 AM EST
By the time it happens im sure nobody will have time to prepare. I suggest making a plan to get away from people and civilization asap. It would be much easier to take out a small country gas station to keep up on food.
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VagabondVance |
5. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 12 2010, 9:15 AM EST
"By the time it happens im sure nobody will have time to prepare. I suggest making a plan to get away from people and civilization asap. It would be much easier to take out a small country gas station to keep up on food."1. As of now zombies are an if not a when. 2. Most members of this site are actually pretty prepared for Z-day or any disaster scenario. 3. Ever think small country gas station owner protecting what is his may take out you? 4. Even if you did take the gas station, you know how to live long term? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Knuxz |
6. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 12 2010, 6:19 PM EST
"5. Knuxz already hit all the other major points I would have made"That makes me feel smart! :D 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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duttyrock |
7. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 12 2010, 7:46 PM EST
"Call me lazy if you want but I don't see the reason of leaving your home or neighborhood. You have an extreme tactical advantage. You know the area and you know your home. I live in a small suburb outside of Chicago, so yes the zombie count will be high, however everything I need is within a 2 minute drive of each other. My house is already slammed with enough weapons and ammunition. Weapons ranging from 1AR-15, 3 Glock 17s, 1 Remington 12 gauge, and various smaller .22 caliber pistols. I have plenty of ammo to intelligently protect myself. Im fortunate to live within under half a mile of a gas station, grocery and hardware store. While I go on a scavenger mission my survivor team, composed of my family will watch and quickly fortify all doors and windows with the huge cache of wood and metal in my garage. 1st order of business for my scavenging loot the grocery store for whatever canned food and water I can get my hands on, and blow any zombie or even human that gets in my way straight to hell. Straight from the grocery store, head to to the hardware to store I will grab whatever amounts of plywood and 2 by 4s I can find. Bug out back to the house and help with the fortification. After that, run as much water as I can into whatever I can, because we know it WILL run out. Canned food? Check. Weapons & Ammo? Check. Water? Check. Fortified holdout? Check. Whatever I need simply jump in the good old Ram 1500 mow down everything in my way, pick it up, and hall ass back to the holdout. "You live outside Chicago right? One of the largest cities in the US, with one of the largest Gang populations, right? Conservative estimates put Chicago's gang population at over 50, 000 members. When the food runs out in the city, where do you think those gangs will look next? Zombies will be the least of your worries, when wave after wave of heavily armed gang members come looting thru abandoned neighborhood. Do you find this valuable? |
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duttyrock |
8. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 12 2010, 7:53 PM EST
Don't get it twisted, street gangs would be the most prepared to deal with a post Z-day world. Well armed, many with high discipline, and organized, they could secure their neighborhoods and raid other areas. I live near Houston, with a similar gang problem. I would differently E&E the hell out of their way and the zombies. Ultimately, the gangs would turn on each other, but that could take some time. Do you find this valuable? |
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VagabondVance |
9. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 13 2010, 2:58 PM EST
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"Don't get it twisted, street gangs would be the most prepared to deal with a post Z-day world. Well armed, many with high discipline, and organized, they could secure their neighborhoods and raid other areas.No, gang-banger is not the "most prepared" people out there. Most don't know how to farm, fish, and track game. They are used to going to restaurants and wal-mart for their food. They aren't ready for anything to disturb the system, it is what keeps them in check, it is what keeps them alive. See this http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/2233618/Gangs%3Draiders This also http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/The+Panic Conclusion street gangs aren't all that powerful because every human has some level of ambition and will always compete, and as long as infighting occurs they cannot grow, they will not last, they will die just as quick as Joe Six-pack. Do you find this valuable? |
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JPTank |
10. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 13 2010, 3:39 PM EST
You could live within two minutes of everything you need but what if you get there and it's licked clean? I think for some people, staying home is great. As long as you basically have a fortress, you're fine. One could wait out the initial stages untill things chilax a bit.In my case, I'd need to relocate cause I live in a crappy apartment townhouse and I could forsee a car or two crashing through my wooden fence and wall. Do you find this valuable? |
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11. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 16 2010, 4:04 PM EDT
In a zombie outbreak the power is going to go off and you cant pump gas because the motor or whatever sucks the gas and puts in your tank is off and if it isn't, what about all the people emptying the gas stations for there vehicles, generators, back-up, etc. You should also get a machete or non ammunition taking weapon for close combat or if you run out (of ammo). The stores wont have anything, there will probable be people taking the actual shelves that the items are put on to use as barriers/barricades/or ripped into usable parts. There are probable some other zombie people in your area so they will take the canned food also. not to mention that a truck running in a near quiet city would be like a dinner bell. Would you be able to stand having to shoot your family if they somehow turned? large groups of people are also not good. The more people, the more food, supplies etc. that would be consumed. I could go on but I feel not.Do you find this valuable? |
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VagabondVance |
12. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 16 2010, 5:35 PM EDT
@L4D, already covered by the panic link and others contributions
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mosinnagant |
13. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 16 2010, 7:52 PM EDT
bugging in is fine if its a small town, but Chicago! I give you two weeks tops
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Spartan1190 |
14. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 16 2010, 8:55 PM EDT
"bugging in is fine if its a small town, but Chicago! I give you two weeks tops"actually one of the small suburbs outside of Chicago, but still the same problem from the perspectives you see. I mean my thing is, everyone will be wanting to leave and will be trying to head out to rural areas. Immediate evacuation in my circumstance would be more fatal then waiting in the long run. Not only would I have to contend with ZEDs but also with panicky Chicagoans. As is we are one of the most dangerous cities in the United States and have the worst drivers. I feel just waiting a week tops would prove more effective in the end. I also would most likely cut off most electrical systems, i.e. heat and air conditioning and non essential lights. Just so any live looters and or bandits dont know Im there. I rather take my chances with the undead then crazed and armed person. I do see what you all mean though. Do you find this valuable? |
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mosinnagant |
15. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 16 2010, 11:45 PM EDT
"actually one of the small suburbs outside of Chicago, but still the same problem from the perspectives you see. I mean my thing is, everyone will be wanting to leave and will be trying to head out to rural areas. Immediate evacuation in my circumstance would be more fatal then waiting in the long run. Not only would I have to contend with ZEDs but also with panicky Chicagoans. As is we are one of the most dangerous cities in the United States and have the worst drivers. I feel just waiting a week tops would prove more effective in the end. I also would most likely cut off most electrical systems, i.e. heat and air conditioning and non essential lights. Just so any live looters and or bandits dont know Im there. I rather take my chances with the undead then crazed and armed person. I do see what you all mean though."hell you'll have a lot of food that will go bad if you bug out within the first week,might as well eat that first week or so. then you can save your stock pile and bug out if it gets too bad. waiting a while will thin the herd and give you a safer way to gtfo. stay away from stores and other peolpe and you should do better than most Do you find this valuable? |
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DevilNuts |
16. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 16 2010, 11:57 PM EDT
"bugging in is fine if its a small town, but Chicago! I give you two weeks tops"It can be done, if it's done smart. Check out my plan (profile), I have no problems with staying in the city. Do you find this valuable? |
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mosinnagant |
17. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 17 2010, 12:50 AM EDT
"It can be done, if it's done smart. Check out my plan (profile), I have no problems with staying in the city.I don't know how well I could do the whole building hopping thing if I had my family with me : ( Do you find this valuable? |
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18. RE: Locking, Loading, and Baricading
Mar 17 2010, 5:25 AM EDT
Cars draw attention to yourself, Zombies will follow you and you cant hide in your house forever, zombies can wait...you cant.Guns, the same thing, you use a gun to take out one of the Zeds, suddenly all of the zombies in the area are after you. Basball bats are better in some ways (not all) At the beggining of Z day, the roads will be filled with people trying to escape or get supplys, you wont be driving anywhere quick. When The power shuts off, your home will be dark and you would wish you didnt board up all the windows, also gasoline wont be able to be pumped out andwater will be cut off. After a while, you would have eaten all the food in the area, or its gone rotten. You would be forced to move somwhere else. I would suggest Leaving the city In a big truck that you hijacked, filled with food water, and sainity items. Leave town Immediatly after finding out about the Zeds. The last thing you need is being forced to kill Zombies That you were Friends with, just leave town. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |