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VagabondVance |
My first shtf plan
Mar 12 2010, 11:28 AM EST
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Well what do you guys think about my plan A? Have any questions feel free to ask! Edit: adding in a link so less searching for you! http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/page/VagabondVance%27s+Plan Do you find this valuable?
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theghostnthedarkness |
1. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 12 2010, 2:53 PM EST
i have some questons about your first location.1. how far is it from a largely populated area? 2. does it have a well? it almost sounded like your fist location would have been better then your second. i know the islands sound like a good idea but you have to realize that everybody knows they are there. alot of people may flock to the islands durring the initial panick because the largely populated areas on the mainland will be crazy. it would be bad if you got to your second position and it was already inhabited by other people or zombies. i think most people that live away from the cities would be better off fortifying their home and surrounding area then to take a dangerous trip to an area you dont know as well as your home. Do you find this valuable? |
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VagabondVance |
2. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 12 2010, 3:19 PM EST
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1. Five miles (as the crow flies) and that town has ~100 residents2. Yes it does, and even if it didn't work there is a river right about 2000 ft away And the second location is uninhabited, the military owns it for the lighthouse and storage,and it is my backup plan in case if I was in a coma, woke up to find sh!t flying around and had to do something. On a quriky side note I'm going to make a quick detour and get this; http://www.asylum.com/2010/03/10/mothman-statue-point-pleasant-west-virginia-john-keller-mothman-festival/?icid=main|aim|dl10|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asylum.com%2F2010%2F03%2F10%2Fmothman-statue-point-pleasant-west-virginia-john-keller-mothman-festival%2F That way you all know its me lol Do you find this valuable? |
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MajorDamage |
3. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 12 2010, 4:37 PM EST
Q'show far is location I and 2 from you in miles and 'normal' time? is there capacity for your group in both locations? additional capacity for others? any ideas on fencing or creating more perimeter defense other than a trench? Do you find this valuable? |
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VagabondVance |
4. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 13 2010, 3:23 PM EST
A'sLocation I: Is approximately 250 miles and is a four hour truck drive, on a moderate traffic day. I also spend most of my summer and early fall at this location. There is plenty capacity for my group along with several other people should I choose to take them along. For perimeter defense this location already has an outer fence along the perimeter of the property, along with an inner fence along the perimeter of the house. Aside from that it is located on a mountain and surrounded by the Monongahela national park on three sides. I would raise both of the cattle crossing on my side preventing any vehicles from running straight up the drive way. I would also have people positioned half way up the road at the barn. Location II: Is approximately 10 miles from my current residence. And the rest I am still working on for this location Do you find this valuable? |
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MajorDamage |
5. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 13 2010, 5:44 PM EST
Analysis of the 'A's:based on that, I would say that location 2 is an achievable goal whereas location 1 is a strategic goal given: 4 hrs in moderate traffic conditions may not exist as the roads may be clogged (it only takes one major accident to stop traffic/block road and no one will be showing up to haul it away) Unless you have more than 1 alternative route to get there. Even if it takes longer, as long as the route is clear and you have the fuel, that's more plausible 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
RoboZed |
6. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 13 2010, 6:26 PM EST
@Major, I honestly agree, roads post Z-Day will be hellish.@Vance, I think location 2 should be plan A, and if it's taken or you can't get there, switch to location 1. Just my opinion. Do you find this valuable? |
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VagabondVance |
7. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 14 2010, 4:29 AM EDT
Well for location: I, there is a rail road track that I could take to get into the northern part of the county, from there I would head south till I would reach my destination that is if roads were absolutely inaccessible. Although I would start heading out when I feel that something might be up with reports of multiple gunshots needed to stop people attacking armed cops, and the deceased tried to bite before death. @RoboZed, Plan A is simply where I would rather be if sh!t was flying around, I know the area well, I know the land well, I know the people well. Plan B involves me going onto an island that at least one other person will think of, which is my biggest concern because people are like variables you never know them, so it is best to just not have them in the picture. Do you find this valuable? |
Naberius |
8. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 20 2010, 11:59 AM EDT
Do you really have to take your girlfriend? Does she offer any skills other then "emotional" support.
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kinelta |
9. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 20 2010, 12:13 PM EDT
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"Do you really have to take your girlfriend? Does she offer any skills other then "emotional" support."Does that really matter? What a jerk. How would you get to the island? Even if it is a back-up plan you need a way to get there. Is it close or far from shore, because the closer it is, the easier it would be (maybe) to get there in a small craft like a canoe. About the property for the first location: will you have enough garden space to support at least five people for an extended period of time? Would you be able to expand the farming area at all? Or are there other places in the region that it might be possible to farm or perhaps trade with other survivors that might be around? And echoing Major D, plan a few alternate routes. Get some maps if at all possible, just in the off-chance route A, B, or C in not passable. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
ItsMrManCub |
10. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 20 2010, 12:33 PM EDT
"Do you really have to take your girlfriend? Does she offer any skills other then "emotional" support."lmao hilarious but i think i would hate to be stuck with rosie for the rest of my life 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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VagabondVance |
11. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 20 2010, 1:47 PM EDT
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"Do you really have to take your girlfriend? Does she offer any skills other then "emotional" support."@Naberius: Why, are you jealous? @kinelta: The island is only a few 1000 feet from shore, and my next door neighbor (who I've grown up with) owns a sailboat docked at the closest marina. Also there is plenty of land to grow crops on the property. The neighbors across the street up at location one own a over a square mile of usable crop space. I've also found a fair share of alternate routes to boot, so I'm ready to roll if SHTF Do you find this valuable? |
Nesrath |
12. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 20 2010, 4:26 PM EDT
Great first plan. Try your different routes during work hours and then again during rush hour (morning when you head to location #2) I am in Manassas and work in Arlington, traffic is hell in the DC area. Imagine it during a panic or crappy weather. I have an Eastward location as a #3 bug out spot, a one hour trip took me almost two hours on a Wednesday morning route test. And look into Lifesaver bottles, should be ok for the bay water if it's not too salty. Or for location #1 if you have a freshwater source near it. Do you find this valuable? |
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Naberius |
13. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 21 2010, 10:41 AM EDT
"Does that really matter? What a jerk.Seriously? a "jerk"? This is a survival situation, maybe she can't handle the emotional stress of the situation, maybe she's a liability because she's stupid, maybe there's a lack of food or clean water and she's not actually contributing to the society but taking up resources. It's a valid question. My girlfriend doesn't get to come with me on Z-Day, because unless I need a BJ she has no skills relevant to my survival. 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
PedroAsani |
14. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 21 2010, 11:16 AM EDT
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"My girlfriend doesn't get to come with me on Z-Day, because unless I need a BJ she has no skills relevant to my survival."When she reads this and dumps your ass, can I get her number? 7 out of 7 found this valuable. Do you? |
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VagabondVance |
15. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 21 2010, 1:22 PM EDT
@Naberius: Then don't count on coming across anyone who will f*ck you post Z-day, as the saying goes "If you don't have it now, don't count on getting it then" Now getting back on topic; my BOL has a bear rug, so +1 to kids that can grow up and say that they were conceived on a bearskin rug? :D 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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kinelta |
16. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 21 2010, 2:14 PM EDT
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"Now getting back on topic; my BOL has a bear rug, so +1 to kids that can grow up and say that they were conceived on a bearskin rug? :D"Sounds like a plan. XD And yes, Naberius, a jerk. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
mudroll |
17. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 21 2010, 2:54 PM EDT
"Sounds like a plan. XDLols. True enough. With that attitude you get shot or left behind. Plan overall seems pretty solid, but another point would be you should learn methods of preserving the game you catch such as drying or smoking it. You would most likely be able to catch enough food in the warmer months but stockpiling them for winter would be needed. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Naberius |
18. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 21 2010, 10:05 PM EDT
"When she reads this and dumps your ass, can I get her number?"My girlfriend doesn't browse "Zombie Survival & Defense Wiki", and she's aware of what will probably happen to her come Z-Day. Don't be dumb. 0 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
EgAce |
19. RE: My first shtf plan
Mar 21 2010, 10:29 PM EDT
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"My girlfriend doesn't browse "Zombie Survival & Defense Wiki", and she's aware of what will probably happen to her come Z-Day. Don't be dumb."And this stops you from being stupid how, exactly? Or a 'jerk'? She likely dosn't believe that anything like this will ever happen? Women are more than what you described earlier. I have no idea what makes you think that his girlfriend, or yours for that matter, cannot contribute in any way. Think about it. Don't be an ass. And who are you going to bring with you? Or are you going 'lone wolf'? Edit: Content Do you find this valuable? |
