"you know what im sorry that last post made me sound like a total di(k. i can see you are new and if you are interested in learning the finer points of different weapons there are alot of people on this site, myself included, that will be more then happy to help."

"i see a few problems with rifles
1.with bolt rifles you have to re-load with each shot, so if ou end up under attack it would be quite useless at points
2.they are quite effective with range but a shot gun would be more effective for taking out bodyparts because unlike a normal person a shot to the leg or body wont stop them dead (or.um...undead)
3.because of there slow rate of fire (with the escaptoin of assault rifles)you would probably need a back-up gun,or a partner/team
please reply and give your oppinoin"

"1. I agree. The big argument over bolt action rifles comes down to additional distance/accuracy and it encourages people to pick their shots. Personally, for a zday application, I won't need to reach out and touch someone at a distance a semi automatic rifle cant comfortably reach. Why risk missing at 700 yards with a bolt action when you can wait a bit and guarantee a hit when they get within 300 yards.

2. Shotguns fall short in magazine capacity, control, and reload speed. Even with a magazine fed saiga, it only holds 7-8 rounds. I have slowly been changing my opinion on shotguns over the last few months, and I'm starting to see where my pistol would be more suited for most any situation a shotgun would find itself in.

3. If you have the means, you should be carrying a backup gun (or 2) anyways. Some can accurately shoot a bolt action as fast as an equally accurate shot with a semi auto. Now give the guy with the bolt action a semi auto rifle. He just got a little faster.

4. Nevermind, you didn't post a 4.

Rifles in general are historically the most useful weapons in battle second maybe only to aerial delivered ordnance. It isnt perfect for every situation, but then again, what is more perfect for any situation?"

"i think bolt actions are great for their intended purpose: killing from a distance after taking aim. though i am a relatively good shot and quick reloader (i have a 10 round clip that i can load in 17 seconds) with bolt-action rifles, i personally wouldn't use them post zday. i would much prefer a single-shot or double barrel shotgun with a melee to defend myself if the zeds are right on top of me. given, i definitely would have multiple people in my group "sniping" from rooftops with bolt actions."

"17 seconds? Christ, ever heard of a stripper clip?"

"If you have to tell your parents, you have issues.
COnsidering there are absolutely zero regulations on them, should be easy enough to simply order them. If you don't have a checking account (debit card) or anything like that, guess you're screwed.
I mean, I just ordered 500 MORE rounds of .30CAR, plus 15 magazines of various make and size (those are for testing purposes, though, I already have a metric assload of reliable magazines), shipped to the house. Mom will sure get an interesting surprise with the 30+ pound box with "AMMUNITION TO GO, THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING US!" on it."