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EgAce |
1. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 17 2010, 1:20 AM EDT
Now that I can see other posts in the recent site activity, I believe that this has been somewhat discussed in the disabled thread. http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/3682173/The+Disabled However, for the kids and elderly, I do not know if it was discussed. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
VagabondVance |
2. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 17 2010, 1:22 AM EDT
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Go slower when traveling, offer up more breaks when on the move. Sure it may take longer to get to your destination, but everyone will make it in one piece. Nobody is useless, ever that's the key, the whining kid might grow up to save your life, that old fella might remember a few tricks from his dad being a farmer, the disabled guy could be the next Steven Hawkins. Do you find this valuable? |
kinelta |
3. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 17 2010, 1:59 AM EDT
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The way to overcome physical shortcomings of group members is to just expect it in the first place, and not ever, ever assume otherwise. Someone *will* sprain an ankle, somone *will* come down with the flu, someone *will* have boots that are just too damn tight. Not to mention those with the more obvious problems. No one is perfect, even if there are some that like to think themselves so. I'd say the same as VV said above. Everyone would benefit from it, even those in the best of health. As difficult as it might be, the best possible nutrition, plenty of sleep, and stress relief, as well. Edit: content 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you? |
duttyrock |
4. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 18 2010, 2:56 AM EDT
For myself and my kids, physician fitness is a regular part of our daily lives. All of my kids are athletes, we regularly hike, run and bike together. After Katrina, it was important that I start teaching my kids basic survival skills. Now, this may sound cruel, but i have several every good friends, with vital skills in a SHTF situation. But, their lack of phyiscial fitness and chronic illnesses would be a severe liablity, for our long term survival. What do you do with the type 2 Diabetic, went their insulin runs out? Of the Hypertensive when their heart medication is no longer available? Or the elderly and crippled? You may be forced with the difficult choice of leaving them behind. Some family members may refuse to leave Mom or Dad. If you can evac them to a secure area, do so. If not, than some very difficult decision have to be made. Do you find this valuable? |
AlexHigginbotham |
5. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 18 2010, 3:03 AM EDT
"the disabled guy could be the next Steven Hawkins. "How in the hell is the theoretical cosmology going to help us in WWZ? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
DevilNuts |
6. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 18 2010, 5:55 AM EDT
"How in the hell is the theoretical cosmology going to help us in WWZ?"Time machine bro. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
PedroAsani |
7. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 18 2010, 6:12 AM EDT
"How in the hell is the theoretical cosmology going to help us in WWZ?"Smart is smart. Plus, a background in physics makes contruction and engineering a breeze. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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duttyrock |
8. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 18 2010, 1:26 PM EDT
"Smart is smart. Plus, a background in physics makes contruction and engineering a breeze."When the batteries on his power chair run out, what then? What about the full time nurse you would need to maintain his ventilator, his special dietary needs? Some of you do not have a survival mindset. Someone like Hawkins is a liability to you and your groups long term survival. Granted if you have the resources to support a disabled person, the means to transport them and the extra personnal to care for them, that's fine. Do you find this valuable? |
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PedroAsani |
9. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 18 2010, 1:32 PM EDT
"When the batteries on his power chair run out, what then? What about the full time nurse you would need to maintain his ventilator, his special dietary needs?I'm not denying the logistical nightmare of doing so, just pointing out the areas that go in the Pro column for Keeping The Crippled But Smart Guy Around. Besides, he could probably come up with something to do it all, he is ScarySmart. :) Do you find this valuable? |
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AlexHigginbotham |
10. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 18 2010, 4:14 PM EDT
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"Smart is smart. Plus, a background in physics makes contruction and engineering a breeze."Theoretical physics and mechanical engineering are miles apart. Get on youtube and look up "Dr. Quantum". It is a cartoon lesson guide aimed at teaching middle school students quantum physics, which is a completely theoretical science. It all make perfect sense and absoloutly no sense at the same time, but I don't see where much of any of it would tie into mechanical engineering. Edit: Except for the math aspect. A geometry whiz would really help out in construction. Do you find this valuable? |
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kinelta |
11. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 18 2010, 7:04 PM EDT
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"Theoretical physics and mechanical engineering are miles apart.Mathematics and physics are the bases of *all* sciences. Every last single one of them. Including mechanical engineering... Do you find this valuable? |
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duttyrock |
12. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 22 2010, 7:56 PM EDT
"I'm not denying the logistical nightmare of doing so, just pointing out the areas that go in the Pro column for Keeping The Crippled But Smart Guy Around.Crippled Smart and can only communicate thru electronic means. Sorry, unless he can teach me how to preserve diesel fuel longer, build a wind generator (i already know how) create explosive bullets or naplam out of hand lotion; he's SOL. His Scary Smarts may not be of any particular use after Z-day. Unless he can create a stable Wormhole, to get us to the Gamma Quadrant. His ass is bait. Do you find this valuable? |
mudroll |
13. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 22 2010, 8:04 PM EDT
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"Crippled Smart and can only communicate thru electronic means. Sorry, unless he can teach me how to preserve diesel fuel longer, build a wind generator (i already know how) create explosive bullets or naplam out of hand lotion; he's SOL. His Scary Smarts may not be of any particular use after Z-day.Have fun trying to convince your group of that. Unless they are all cold hearted bastards no one is being used as bait. Left behind maybe but bait, no. Things like seeing a defenseless person being eaten gruesomely tend to traumatize or at least disturb them. And as for the physical shortcomings of our group just like kinelta said, expect them. You're not getting a group of athletes. Just incorporate this into your plan and everything should work out fine. Unless they are ragers, in which case you might have a problem. Do you find this valuable? |
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duttyrock |
14. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 22 2010, 8:04 PM EDT
Now, a crippled Blacksmith or Gunsmith, he's worth the extra effort. Or a Blind swordsman.
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mudroll |
15. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 22 2010, 8:08 PM EDT
"Now, a crippled Blacksmith or Gunsmith, he's worth the extra effort. Or a Blind swordsman. "Really? A crippled blacksmith or gunsmith? I can't tell if the blind swordsman is a joke but I'd rather go through the effort of bringing an extremely smart cripple then a crippled blacksmith or gunsmith. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Vault-tech. |
16. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 22 2010, 10:57 PM EDT
"Now, a crippled Blacksmith or Gunsmith, he's worth the extra effort. Or a Blind swordsman. "WTF would a blind swordsman do? This isn't Hollywood! He'd be just a bigger and useless pain. Not to diss the blind, because they have a lot to offer, but a blind swordsman? He/ she doesn't qualify as a swordsman anymore. Blind smiths would be alright, because there are somethings you can't learn in a book, so if they can teach you, they are all right. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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mudroll |
17. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 22 2010, 11:27 PM EDT
"WTF would a blind swordsman do? This isn't Hollywood! He'd be just a bigger and useless pain. Not to diss the blind, because they have a lot to offer, but a blind swordsman? He/ she doesn't qualify as a swordsman anymore. Blind smiths would be alright, because there are somethings you can't learn in a book, so if they can teach you, they are all right.True enough on a blind swordsman but I think a blind smith would be useless. They might be able to tell you what to do, but they wouldn't be able to make anything. If they could, I would bow down to them and worship him/her. Do you find this valuable? |
JPTank |
18. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 23 2010, 12:10 AM EDT
what my team does is we adapt to cover eachothers weaknesses. Me, i'm not the best runner (i CAN run, not for lengthy periods of time), but i'm really strong, While my buddies are gaining some ground, i'd most likely be either watching a flank or keeping those things off our backs.one of us who is more scared than the rest can be as "support". basically in the middle of the group and rushing to relieve whoever else in the team that needs immediate help. No sence putting him alone to hold the zeds off our 3 o clock, when he could be teamed with another member, get THAT job done twice as fast, and then take care of the 3 o clock bumrush. we basically just give eachother jobs and work off eachothers weaknesses. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
SovietPrince |
19. RE: how to adapt to group members pysical shortcomings shtf ?
Mar 24 2010, 9:59 PM EDT
well running wont be all that difficult.you do have to be fast, but, consider the military fall back. example: 2 guys(A) firing to cover to teammates(B). team B gets behind A and then covers for team A. the process is reapeated until you can escape without needing to turn around to fire... maybe to check, but regardless its a proven tactic. now apply that to escorting a man in a wheelchair out. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
