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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
OT: Living off the grid
Mar 18 2010, 10:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2010, 10:31 PM EDT
Not literally, as in no power or anything. But I have been seriously pondering what life would be like if I turned off the cable for a year and put all of my computers and videogames in storage.

I would still go out to see movies, and still visit the library to get on the internet once in awhile, and of course I would have a phone line. But I think "unplugging" myself from all of this extra digital nonsense might have some really interesting effects on my life.

I think too often people build these great "Entertainment Fortresses" and then forget that there is a whole world full of awesome and fascinating sh!t outside, waiting to be explored. Hell, I live no more than a hundred feet away from arguably one of the most beautiful and pristine dive sites in the world -- and I look out of my office window at the gorgeous blue and green waters and smile befure turning my attention back to World of Warcraft.

I'm about sick of it. I'll bet that for 99% of us there are dozens, if not hundreds of interesting, exciting and culturally enriching things to do or see right in our local areas! What the hell are we doing?? We were not made to sit and rot away on the internet. I'm ready to start checking some boxes. I was twenty one years old a few days ago. I woke up one morning and *BAM* I'm twenty seven. WTF happened?

Has anyone ever done this or thought about it? Tell me I'm not alone.

(...Now the hard part will be tearing my wife away from her precious laptop...)
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StrykerPez
StrykerPez
1. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 18 2010, 10:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2010, 10:37 PM EDT
I've thought about it. Not sure what direction I want to go with it though. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
VagabondVance
VagabondVance
2. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 18 2010, 11:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2010, 11:33 PM EDT
@DevilNuts, my .02:
That sounds like a great idea, go out and see the world as it was meant to be seen. Heck if you can do it, take a vacation up into the mountains or down by the beach. Enjoy life, plain and simple, I take my summers off and head up to my BOL away from everything, and I come back a little bit stronger and, much more relaxed.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
3. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 18 2010, 11:39 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2010, 11:39 PM EDT
I'm not really talking about living off the land or anything that extreme... Just living simpler.

I'm negotiating with the wife right now about this via email... we may try it next year.
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
4. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 18 2010, 11:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2010, 11:46 PM EDT
@DN, well if it's living simpler your going after, your electric bill is going to go way down then, just be sure to unplug anything you know your not going to use. That is my little tid bit o' advice for the day :D 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
DevilNuts
DevilNuts
5. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 18 2010, 11:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 18 2010, 11:59 PM EDT
I live on base, I don't pay for utilities or rent. It's really not about the money for me. I just feel like I'm wasting my time by sitting at home all day and night. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

Bipp
6. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 12:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 12:12 AM EDT
I have to say I am 35 and I have only had cable and the internet for under a year. I admit, that I use to use that time to do more physically demanding past times. But since I have had the net and cable I have opened my self up to a large treasure trove of knowledge.

I still don't play any video games, and I still spend time working, volunteering for several organizations, hunting, fishing, gardening, and playing sports. But I like to think I do all of those things and more smarter and with more intelligence and insight to what I am doing.

I do think people who sit around watching T.V. and on computers (not working) for 4 or more hours every day, need to turn it all off for a while and do something.

60% of the time I spend on line just happens to on this sight or looking up things relative to survival, my work, projects I want to do, and news from around the country (U.S.), and the world.

I will probably be off the couch and internet more this summer, because I have several projects I have drawn up to do. Including building a 40'X80' Pole barn with a chicken and rabbit coop, lights, and a storage. That way I can use my 3 car garage for a metal and wood work shop, to build what ever tickles my fancy.

I also want to build 4 more small wind turbines, and possibly mount a couple more solar panels.
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theghostnthedarkness
theghostnthedarkness
7. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 12:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 12:16 AM EDT
"I live on base, I don't pay for utilities or rent. It's really not about the money for me. I just feel like I'm wasting my time by sitting at home all day and night. "
i think its a good idea DN. that way when the world goes to sh1t the loss of technology wont be such a shock to your system.
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Akerris
Akerris
8. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 7:39 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 7:39 AM EDT
"Not literally, as in no power or anything. But I have been seriously pondering what life would be like if I turned off the cable for a year and put all of my computers and videogames in storage.

I would still go out to see movies, and still visit the library to get on the internet once in awhile, and of course I would have a phone line. But I think "unplugging" myself from all of this extra digital nonsense might have some really interesting effects on my life.

I think too often people build these great "Entertainment Fortresses" and then forget that there is a whole world full of awesome and fascinating sh!t outside, waiting to be explored. Hell, I live no more than a hundred feet away from arguably one of the most beautiful and pristine dive sites in the world -- and I look out of my office window at the gorgeous blue and green waters and smile befure turning my attention back to World of Warcraft.

I'm about sick of it. I'll bet that for 99% of us there are dozens, if not hundreds of interesting, exciting and culturally enriching things to do or see right in our local areas! What the hell are we doing?? We were not made to sit and rot away on the internet. I'm ready to start checking some boxes. I was twenty one years old a few days ago. I woke up one morning and *BAM* I'm twenty seven. WTF happened?

Has anyone ever done this or thought about it? Tell me I'm not alone.

(...Now the hard part will be tearing my wife away from her precious laptop...)"
You would have to give yourself meaningful projects all year round. My recommendation is to make your own supply of alcoholic beverages. Other than that there's diy solar panels, wind turbines, and water heaters. Also, if you want any electronics of any kind you would need a DC power inverter to make your electricity usable with common household devices.
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AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
9. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 7:51 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 7:51 AM EDT
"I'll bet that for 99% of us there are dozens, if not hundreds of interesting, exciting and culturally enriching things to do or see right in our local areas!"
So you have made it clear that you have never been to Havelock, NC...

Did the WoW bug hit the marines or what? Something I have learned though about me and technology. If I stay away from a specific technology for a couple days, I completely lose interest. I spent a good chunk of my teenage years watching TV, joined the marines almost 5 years ago, and haven't had cable since. Do I miss it? Only during football season.

I played WoW for a good 3 1/2 years. (if this doesnt make sense to some of you, just ignore it) Had 6 80s decked to the hilt in gear, was in an end game raiding guild as a raid leader, had 2 toons in the latest arena gear, etc. I decided to just not play one weekend and poof, I completely lost interest.

Now mind you, when I drop one habbit I always pick up another. I dropped TV for world of warcraft. I dropped Wow for these forums and other survival related content. I dropped Modern Warfare 2 (which was total sh!t for the PC) for Bad Company 2 (which is the sh!t for the PC).

I have absolutely no problem given up something I am addicted to technology wise, but something has to fill the void it leaves.
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LJ126
LJ126
10. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 9:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 9:32 AM EDT
I actually had somewhat of the same realization DN, but for me, there was a great sense of urgency - I was getting REALLY fat and en route to a heart attack or stroke. Hell, it's almost been a year since I started my health kick and while I'm still a big dude (and always will be), I'm 90 lbs lighter and ten times happier. Other than this forum (and youtube) I've pretty much given up on the internet, gaming and television. No more Guild Wars or WoW for me. It'll be a year since I quit smoking in two weeks. I have replaced all of those things with reading and school work, intermixed with powerlifting, judo & jujutsu and hiking. Instead of driving, I often walk to the grocery store and get only what I need - nothing extra. If I need a lot, I've got one hell of a workout ahead of me! It's much more eco-friendly too, since I reuse my canvas grocery bags now too.

People aren't meant to live their lives like many first-world citizens do today. IMO, that's why obesity, depression, alcoholism and many other common social and physical ills are so rampant here in the States and elsewhere. I honestly believe that the cure for many of these problems lie in proper diet and positive lifestyle change, not medication.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
11. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 9:50 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 9:50 AM EDT
"You would have to give yourself meaningful projects all year round. My recommendation is to make your own supply of alcoholic beverages. Other than that there's diy solar panels, wind turbines, and water heaters. Also, if you want any electronics of any kind you would need a DC power inverter to make your electricity usable with common household devices."
I think you misunderstand me. I have no intention of actually living "off the grid" it was just a clever title. I just meant getting away from Cable and leading a more active lifestyle.

AHB- I understand what you mean about WoW. I've been playing for about 3 years, the first 2 I was like a zombie myself. Last year or so however, I haven't been *as* committed to the game, and I am starting to lose interest.
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MajorDamage
12. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 1:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 1:47 PM EDT
"I think you misunderstand me. I have no intention of actually living "off the grid" it was just a clever title. I just meant getting away from Cable and leading a more active lifestyle.

AHB- I understand what you mean about WoW. I've been playing for about 3 years, the first 2 I was like a zombie myself. Last year or so however, I haven't been *as* committed to the game, and I am starting to lose interest. "
DN: then for accuracy's sake, the title should be 'living less on the 'net' or 'going less tech for a time'

Going fully off the gird (John Connor style) means going Amish.

I understand this point: we've filled ourselves with 'necessary items' such as cable TV, internet, cell phones, laptops, game devices, ipods, etc and all of these items have costs (upfront and monthly committments). When I was 27, they were around in more Flintstone format but not quite overtaking life itself.

Cutting out most if not all of these items probably save $2-3K year which can be rolled back into the Defense Budget as a 'Tech Dividend'
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timberrattler
timberrattler
13. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 3:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 3:23 PM EDT
OK this is coming from an ancient 40 yr. old who has lived most of his life without video games, cable and internet. I've discovered all these things in the last year and a half and my life isn't any better as a matter of fact its worse.

Since I stepped away from all these things I've lost about 15 lbs., discovered reading again and remain blissfully ignorant about current affairs and anything to do with the outside world. I honestly believe thats how man was meant to live. Do we really need to know whats going on where or whos doin' who? We all get so wrapped up in what others are doing around us that we forget about....ourselves.

For the love of all thats good and holy step away every now and then and LIVE. "This is your life and its ending one minute at a time."~Fight Club.
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Carnack
Carnack
14. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 3:31 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 3:31 PM EDT
I've thought about it. But like Stryker I'm not sure what direction to go with it.

Another solution is to have a schedule and to minimize the amount of time inside on the net/PS3.

But around here? For me going outside just causes more problems that it's worth.
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
15. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 3:32 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 3:32 PM EDT
" We all get so wrapped up in what others are doing around us that we forget about....ourselves.

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Damn, I couldn't of said anything better, you rock Timberrattler :D
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Carnack
Carnack
16. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 3:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 3:38 PM EDT
"OK this is coming from an ancient 40 yr. old who has lived most of his life without video games, cable and internet. I've discovered all these things in the last year and a half and my life isn't any better as a matter of fact its worse.

Since I stepped away from all these things I've lost about 15 lbs., discovered reading again and remain blissfully ignorant about current affairs and anything to do with the outside world. I honestly believe thats how man was meant to live. Do we really need to know whats going on where or whos doin' who? We all get so wrapped up in what others are doing around us that we forget about....ourselves.

For the love of all thats good and holy step away every now and then and LIVE. "This is your life and its ending one minute at a time."~Fight Club."
Well dude I discovered books years before I hand da interwebz so reading has always been classed as entertainment for me.

Problem is that I keep up on current affairs because they effect me. In effect I'm keeping up for myself.

But this does give me a thread idea.
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cyrano222
cyrano222
17. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 6:45 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 6:45 PM EDT
I do quite agree with you, little more than a decade ago I injured myself quite severly and was limited to basically watching tv for about 3 months. After I got done with pt and ot I had the ability to get away from the boob tube and was grateful. Now I only watch tv for about 4hrs a week, This and two other sites are about all I do on the internet. I now camp, hike and ski much more frequently and wife and I enjoy it much more. What the hell is WoW? I have more than a decade on Timber so I am officailly an old fart, but hey I can retire in two years. Do you find this valuable?    
Freelancer47
Freelancer47
18. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 19 2010, 11:29 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 11:29 PM EDT
This is a heck of a thread.

You're not alone DN.

When I left the Army over a year ago I just wanted to get back to 'Normal'. Downtown apartment, be able to visit my old haunts again, be close to family & friends, do what I used to do before I enlisted...

I'm realizing, more & more everyday, that may have been a mistake.

I had saved up over $12.000 by the time I was ready to leave the Army. I should have moved to New York...

Austin, TX...

Jeauno, Alaska...

Hawaii...

Gone back to Croatia (I still have my old Yugo passport, I believe I still qual. for dual citizenship)...

I spend WAY too much money on Going Out & buying Movies, seeing movies, purchasing weaponry (nothring really wrong with that, it's just I don't NEED more).

I've pretty much decided I'm moving to a cheaper apartment, getting my Nursing Cert... and after working & saving for a few years just Move.

Heck, Chicago is technically alien to me.. I haven't LIVED there for almost a 2 Decades...

Unplugging from the 'Real' world is sounding better everyday...
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StrykerPez
StrykerPez
19. RE: OT: Living off the grid
Mar 20 2010, 1:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 20 2010, 1:04 AM EDT
If my girl and I decide to take this relationship farther, we both would love to move to the middle of nowhere, buy a ton of land, and live as "off the grid" as possible. Growing our own crops, hunting for meat, raising chicken and goats, wind turbines for power, well water, the whole works. Do you find this valuable?    
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