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Go4TheHead
Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 3:02 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 3:02 AM EDT
First off, I'll have a recurve bow, tactical knife, small close-up pistol, and a katana. I'm getting the recurve bow pretty soon, and I plan on practicing every day to become better with it. The tactical knife my step-dad taught me some moves that focus mainly on the temple/ top of the head areas. The pistol I am a little more familiar with. The katana I am very good with. I have trained using it for 2 years now.

NOTE: Constructive criticism is accepted, but bashing and insulting is not.
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theghostnthedarkness
theghostnthedarkness
1. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 3:16 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 3:16 AM EDT
"First off, I'll have a recurve bow, tactical knife, small close-up pistol, and a katana. I'm getting the recurve bow pretty soon, and I plan on practicing every day to become better with it. The tactical knife my step-dad taught me some moves that focus mainly on the temple/ top of the head areas. The pistol I am a little more familiar with. The katana I am very good with. I have trained using it for 2 years now.

NOTE: Constructive criticism is accepted, but bashing and insulting is not."
welcome to the ZSDW, there is already a thread for this and your gonna get a little bit of both criticisms. here is the link.

http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/thread/3700957/What+weapons+would+you+have+in+a+Zombie+Apocalypse%3F
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
2. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 3:26 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 3:26 AM EDT
I'll shoot because your asking us to assess your personal weapons. Although I will need to know a bit more about what you've got.

What quality is the katana of?
What caliber is the pistol you have?
Will you get real arrows and not just field arrows for the re-curve?
What is the bow's draw weight?
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AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
3. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 6:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 6:05 AM EDT
Welcome, and now my brutal analysis....MUAHAHAHA.....

1. Bows are a no go. The first time you hit bone with an arrow, the broadhead is destroyed and the arrow will likely be warped. Surface bone such as a skull is notorious for deflecting arrows if it doesn't impact at a perfect perpendicular angle. I would just scrap the idea and grab a rifle. If you are on a budget, there are a few great bolt action and semi automatic rifles you can grab for under $400, including AK-47's, SKS, and Mosin Nagants.

2. I wouldn't pack a knife to be used as a weapon, but more as a tool. Are you confident enough in that blades construction to not snap when using it under "less than perfect" conditions?

3. I wanna know more about this pistol. Make, model, caliber, capacity, the works.

4. If the katana was built specifically for use against a person (not the $200 and less display swords) then it will probably serve as a pretty good weapon. The problem with that is a katana doesn't second well as a useful tool. Proper Japanese sword steel is very flexible, making it very poor for prying, chopping, and pretty much anything not involved with severing someones limbs. I would stick with a good quality machete (blade style of your choice, I personally use a Ka-Bar Kukri). A machete might not be as graceful as a katana, but it will split a skull open and still hold up to the punishment if you have to chop through a door.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
4. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 6:47 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 6:47 AM EDT
"The katana I am very good with. I have trained using it for 2 years now."
Wow, 2 whole years?

I M P R E S S I V E
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AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
5. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 7:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 7:36 AM EDT
"Wow, 2 whole years?

I M P R E S S I V E"
At least he is trying......and I haven't heard anything about Walmart yet...
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Akerris
Akerris
6. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 7:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 7:48 AM EDT
"First off, I'll have a recurve bow, tactical knife, small close-up pistol, and a katana. I'm getting the recurve bow pretty soon, and I plan on practicing every day to become better with it. The tactical knife my step-dad taught me some moves that focus mainly on the temple/ top of the head areas. The pistol I am a little more familiar with. The katana I am very good with. I have trained using it for 2 years now.

NOTE: Constructive criticism is accepted, but bashing and insulting is not."
If you can't find a usable katana, just get a bastard sword. The wight will take some time to get used to but it will be worth it.

Other than that, be more specific with your handguns.

Bows are only good in the right hands, which are few and far between, so I'm going to recommend the crossbow.

Tactical usually just means its black. You might be thinking of a combat knife.

Please, find an avatar or something if you're serious about staying. If you're looking for praise and compliments this might not be the place for you.
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theghostnthedarkness
theghostnthedarkness
7. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 7:56 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 7:56 AM EDT
"If you can't find a usable katana, just get a bastard sword. The wight will take some time to get used to but it will be worth it.

Other than that, be more specific with your handguns.

Bows are only good in the right hands, which are few and far between, so I'm going to recommend the crossbow.

Tactical usually just means its black. You might be thinking of a combat knife.

Please, find an avatar or something if you're serious about staying. If you're looking for praise and compliments this might not be the place for you."
and if you can find an avatar as cool as akerris' dont worry about it because there isnt a cooler avatar than kermit holding an ak. unless maybe its miss piggy holding and RPG.
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AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
8. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 8:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 8:05 AM EDT
"Tactical usually just means its black."
Thanks for that comment. I am going to use that to come up with a lot of tasteless jokes for work where racial humor is widely accepted.

And another thing.....Why does Akerris always bring up avatars when he sees me in a thread? I know what you're doing buddy, and I don't approve.
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theghostnthedarkness
theghostnthedarkness
9. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 8:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 8:18 AM EDT
"Thanks for that comment. I am going to use that to come up with a lot of tasteless jokes for work where racial humor is widely accepted.

And another thing.....Why does Akerris always bring up avatars when he sees me in a thread? I know what you're doing buddy, and I don't approve."
i for one am very curius as to what akerris is doing and why you dont approve of it alex.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
10. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 9:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 9:55 AM EDT
"Tactical usually just means its black. "
Or has velcro. Don't forget about the velcro.
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
11. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 11:58 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 11:58 AM EDT
"Thanks for that comment. I am going to use that to come up with a lot of tasteless jokes for work where racial humor is widely accepted.

And another thing.....Why does Akerris always bring up avatars when he sees me in a thread? I know what you're doing buddy, and I don't approve."
I think Akerris is just tired of seeing dozens of new members sign on, post one or two threads, having no picture, and he gets mildly confused by them if he doesn't remember their user names. (I know I do from time to time)
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timberrattler
timberrattler
12. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 3:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 3:13 PM EDT
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NOTE: Constructive criticism is accepted, but bashing and insulting is not."
You don't make the rules here junior.

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mecamouser
mecamouser
13. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 3:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 3:27 PM EDT
"1. Bows are a no go. The first time you hit bone with an arrow, the broadhead is destroyed and the arrow will likely be warped. Surface bone such as a skull is notorious for deflecting arrows if it doesn't impact at a perfect perpendicular angle. I would just scrap the idea and grab a rifle. If you are on a budget, there are a few great bolt action and semi automatic rifles you can grab for under $400, including AK-47's, SKS, and Mosin Nagants."
ok on this i have to both agree and disagree. yes, arrows do have the problem of one time use, but isn't the same with bullets? the only difference is a skilled craftsman can make arrows out of natural materials, while u need special equipment for bullets!

yes a broad head would more then likely get destroyed after hitting bone! But is the bullet not the same way? not to mention that with both bullet's and arrows, a shot to the head may not destroy the brain, if u shoot someone in the face, u may miss the brain or brain stem. at least with an arrow, as the zombie moves, the arrow will continue to tear and destroy flesh as it moves.

So i wouldn't put the bow and arrow idea down completely, considering its good for not only hunting, but equally as important, stealth and distance.

Basically if u feel comfortable enough in the abilities to use a bow, then frankly more power to you! guns arent for everyone, And if we are talking about a true apocalypse, bullets will run out, wood probably wont. (depending on the state of the planet)

Thanks for listening

o and PS: Tactical also means it may have a name with "high speed" or "mil spec" not to mention look really nifty!
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VagabondVance
VagabondVance
14. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 5:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 5:17 PM EDT
" and PS: Tactical also means it may have a name with "high speed" or "mil spec" not to mention look really nifty!"
No, tactical means you've over paid for that particular item, and it will break down on you when you need it the most.
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DevilNuts
DevilNuts
15. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 7:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 7:05 PM EDT
"You don't make the rules here junior.

"
Hey, a broken clock is right twice a day.
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EgAce
EgAce
16. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 7:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 7:17 PM EDT
"Hey, a broken clock is right twice a day. "
Unless it's a broken digital clock. Then it's just a piece of junk.
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AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
17. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 19 2010, 10:33 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 19 2010, 10:35 PM EDT
"yes a broad head would more then likely get destroyed after hitting bone! But is the bullet not the same way? not to mention that with both bullet's and arrows, a shot to the head may not destroy the brain,"
I get your point. When comparing bullets to arrows, the one time use factor spans both, so is pointless to use in argument.

Damage to the brain will come down to the characteristics of the ammunition you use.

An arrow that penetrates will cut what it passed through with minimal collateral damage.

A heavy slow round like .357 mag or .45 ACP will transfer a lot of energy to what hits by energy transference through mass.

A fast round like 5.56 and .270 will have a small entrance and exit wound but pressure differences cause by the path of the round would severely damage anything it hit within a closed space, like a skull.

My personal favorite, 5.7x28mm naturally yaws (turns sideways) when it penetrates tissue. That allows max surface area to tumble through the target. Not to mention, if it doesn't work, I still have 19 more tries before I have to reload. A bow cant do that as efficiently or as quickly.

By the way, when referencing that arrows can be made by skilled craftsmen and bullets need special tools to make, consider that special tools are required to fashion an arrow that will shoot accurately in a modern bow. The slightest twists or curves in a homemade arrow can make it useless.

I don't have any statistics but i would think that there are more gun owners that know how to reload ammunition than there are bow owners that know how to make arrows.
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Akerris
Akerris
18. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 20 2010, 7:43 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 20 2010, 7:43 AM EDT
"Thanks for that comment. I am going to use that to come up with a lot of tasteless jokes for work where racial humor is widely accepted.

And another thing.....Why does Akerris always bring up avatars when he sees me in a thread? I know what you're doing buddy, and I don't approve."
Hey man, it just creeps me out. It looks like your jawbone is just going to pop out so you can wrap your lower lip around someone's skull and suck their brains out.......Gives me the willies......
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kadarazombiehunter7
kadarazombiehunter7
19. RE: Would these be ideal weapons?
Mar 21 2010, 1:36 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 21 2010, 1:36 AM EDT
I would go more with a Long Bow, and arrows can be made from a lot of materials, so don't scrap the idea entirely. The good thing about arrows, though, is that you can re-use the as many times as needed(if it isn't damaged). Guns are more veristile(sp?) and easier to use, yet they have there problems(like jamming). Katanas are great for fighting, so stay with that, but you may also want to get a machete. Knives are great tools, so have plenty of them.

I suggest you get a few other melee weapons, like bats, shovels, or hammers, too :)
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