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ShaneofReading
ShaneofReading
Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 27 2010, 1:05 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 27 2010, 1:05 PM EDT
Satellites require maintenance from ground crews from time to time. Things like re-aligning antennas and solar panels and fixing system anomalies. In time, these things add up and eventually, one by one, they will cease to function. Therefore, GPS system will work at first, but slowly over time the system will fail. How long that is? I don't know. A few years perhaps. 6  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
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hazard1337
hazard1337
1. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 27 2010, 7:24 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 27 2010, 7:24 PM EDT
thats one of the reasons i think you should stick to relatively common ground. you know where you're going (at least to some extent) Do you find this valuable?    
AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
2. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 27 2010, 10:01 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 27 2010, 10:01 PM EDT
Satellites are only go betweens. If the recievers and transmitters on the ground dont have power, then satellites are useless. GPS isn't directly satellite guided, there are quite a few go betweens down here on earth.

Hazard, sasquach might not like your choice of avatar.
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Reaper37
Reaper37
3. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 27 2010, 10:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 27 2010, 10:09 PM EDT
I think Satellites would be better used for communications if the proper facilities on the ground are powered. I would probably use GPS for a short time, but only long enough to fully learn my terrain, after thats done i would not even bother with that sort of thing. As for how long the satellites orbit might last before decay, i think it would be good for a couple decades actually. Most sattelites that do fall from the sky have been up there for a good 30 to 40 years, soviet union era stuff. Like i said though this is most, i guess it would also depend on the rate of decay for other satellites around them and the height in which it is orbiting the earth, because as most know, there are various layers of satellites around our planet. Do you find this valuable?    
survivortype
survivortype
4. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 27 2010, 11:00 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 27 2010, 11:00 PM EDT
The main concern with satellites is space junk. More and more often, orbits have to be altered to avoid collisions with discarded rocket boosters, dead satellites, tools, etc. With nobody on the ground keeping track of orbital debris and altering trajectories, low earth orbit will rapidly become a dangerous place.

A screw moving at 17,500 miles per hour has roughly the same kinetic energy as a car doing highway speed, and one satellite can shatter into a lot of pieces, each with the same destructive potential. Without a lot of manpower on the ground, a cascade reaction is inevitable.
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mudroll
mudroll
5. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 27 2010, 11:07 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 27 2010, 11:07 PM EDT
" The main concern with satellites is space junk. More and more often, orbits have to be altered to avoid collisions with discarded rocket boosters, dead satellites, tools, etc. With nobody on the ground keeping track of orbital debris and altering trajectories, low earth orbit will rapidly become a dangerous place.

A screw moving at 17,500 miles per hour has roughly the same kinetic energy as a car doing highway speed, and one satellite can shatter into a lot of pieces, each with the same destructive potential. Without a lot of manpower on the ground, a cascade reaction is inevitable."
And eventually you end up with the Kessler Syndrome which equates to no more space traveling. Or at the very least a hell lot more annoying time to travel in space.
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Reggy1
Reggy1
6. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 28 2010, 12:00 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2010, 12:00 AM EDT
GPwotsit? learn to use a compass! 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
USNtwidget
USNtwidget
7. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 28 2010, 12:25 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2010, 12:25 AM EDT
What would really suck is when zombies start wandering around the control facilitys, you could have made every anti zombie precaution in the world on your house, but that doesnt mean squat when zack falls on a console and de orbits a satellite into your fortress Do you find this valuable?    
AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
8. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 28 2010, 12:30 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2010, 12:30 AM EDT
"What would really suck is when zombies start wandering around the control facilitys, you could have made every anti zombie precaution in the world on your house, but that doesnt mean squat when zack falls on a console and de orbits a satellite into your fortress"
are satellites strong enough to survive re-entry?
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casquis
casquis
9. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 28 2010, 12:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2010, 12:32 AM EDT
"are satellites strong enough to survive re-entry?"
no, they arent build to whitstand heat as shuttles are, thats why they are transported inside the shuttles cargo area.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
10. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Mar 28 2010, 8:34 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 28 2010, 8:34 AM EDT
GPS satellites are designed to last for 10 years. There are 24 of them, one renewed every six months.

So if we are not sending up new satellites, the GPS systems will begin to degrade fairly quickly.
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hollickrichard
hollickrichard
11. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Aug 28 2011, 8:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 28 2011, 8:42 PM EDT
On May 19, 2009, the United States Government Accountability Office issued a report warning that some GPS satellites could fail as soon as 2010.
On May 21, 2009, the Air Force Space Command allayed fears of GPS failure saying "There's only a small risk we will not continue to exceed our performance standard."
A GPS satellite was launched on May 28, 2010. The oldest GPS satellite still in operation was launched on November 26, 1990, and became operational on December 10, 1990.
The GPS satellite, GPS IIF-2, was launched on July 16, 2011 at 2:41am ET from Space Launch Complex 37B at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.
good old Wiki
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hollickrichard
hollickrichard
12. RE: Can Zombies take out Satellites? Sort of...
Aug 28 2011, 8:52 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 28 2011, 8:52 PM EDT
upon further reading i have learned that most satellites contain a cesium clock to regulate themselves and this needs to be regulated and checked for accuracy it has been stated that this type of clock may lose time at a rate of 0.000000000001 seconds over the course of 25 years sounds damn inaccurate to me don't want to trust that... 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

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