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british_lion |
Supplements
Mar 30 2010, 1:38 PM EDT
There are plenty of supplements available from your nearest health food shop - most have a 3 year+ shelf life. Good quality multivitamins, spirulina/blue-green algae, wheatgrass all have masses of vital stuff you may be lacking if you're on rations or tinned food. And don't forget coffee, especially if you're a caffeine addict. A lot of people are unknowingly dependant on caffeine, and withdrawal can lead to headaches, loss of concentration and erratic behaviour.
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Aranelinya |
1. RE: coffee
Sep 24 2010, 10:40 AM EDT
as a life long coffee addict (my mum started me drinking coffee before I was weaned from the bottle) who has had to eliminate caffeine on various occasions for various reasons, I can attest that yes the headaches and crappy feeling are miserable...but they only last about 3-4 days. ...for me at least.
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DonovanRichter |
2. RE: coffee
Sep 25 2010, 8:46 AM EDT
I must point out that many nutrition supplements are sketchy. Many of the things about various dietary supplements that come in pill form usually fail their tests to ensure that... oh gosh, how do I say this... =*_*=Most of these things are determined to be good for a particular disorder when it is found that one group of people has a lower instance of a particular ill and an abundance of some food. Fish oil consumption in the Inuit people for instance was believed to prevent heart disease if I recall correctly. When it was used as a dietary supplement it was found to actually work. This is one of the few that passes its tests and is verified to actually have an effect on health, even when given to an entirely unrelated ethnic group/s. It's worth a try for sure, but I don't put a great deal of importance on them. I used to take multi-vitamins, and I've seen some particularly unhealthy people who have tried to rely on them due to a pervasive hatred of green leafy foods. I haven't taken multi-vitamins in the longest time, but I personally have found that the variety that I get in my diet seems to keep me healthier than those who have attempted to use these as a stand in. Research generally agrees with me here. Multi-vitamins may be better than nothing, but most agree that the nutrients they contain don't absorb well into the body. Maybe multi-vitamins are the only thing keeping some people kicking but I prefer to emphasize dietary variety. Look up the kinds of nutrition powerhouses that can be grown in your area, and learn what kinds of foraged foods you can eat, and try to get an idea of what nutrients they can provide you with. Humans evolved under situations where their diets contained extreme variety, due to food scarcity and all edible things had to be eaten just to survive. Naturally, our complex biological processes require a wide range of different minerals and vitamins=^_^= Do you find this valuable? |
LJ126 |
3. RE: Vitamins and Supplements
Sep 25 2010, 9:25 AM EDT
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Donovan's touched on an interesting topic here - vitamin supplementation. Let's think about this for a second, from both a movie critic's and survivalist's perspective.If you watch ANY of the mainstream or B-movie zombie flicks, very rarely will you actually see any of the main characters performing natural body functions. They seem to require no food, no sleep, and they never have to drop a deuce in the woods, so we tend to assume that they only eat the healthiest foods and that sleep and potty breaks happen under ideal circumstances (otherwise it would be in the movie.) The exception to this is 28 Days, where they clearly eat out of vending machines for energy, which is not sustainable over the long term and is terribly unhealthy. If you think about it, this is essentially impossible in a real-life situation - let's face it, nobody goes to the mall to eat healthy because the food courts rarely serve nutritious food. I think that Zombieland does a good job of humorously pointing out this nutrition/biological function cinema inadequacy in the form of Rule #2 and Tallahassee's Twinkie fetish. From a survivalist perspective, one should expect that ideal sources of energy will likely not be available. Sure - if we're living at a prepared BOL that has stockpiled canned foods and grains, with a basic garden setup, we'll be doing pretty good, but most of us cannot afford to have something like this ready to rock and roll. We're likely going to be living out of our BOB's for a few days until we can actually set up some sort of sustainable system - which at first may or may not be entirely healthy. Vitamin and mineral supplementation might be required! For example, if you're greatly deficient on Vitamin C for extended periods of time, you could develop "scurvy." Do you find this valuable? |
darthw |
4. RE: Vitamins and Supplements
Sep 25 2010, 9:39 AM EDT
Great idea, but everyone should know their body before going out & getting random suppliments. A few years back my doctor had requested I start taking a multivitamin, which did help level out some of my deficiencies, but the brand had more calcium benefits than I needed. Because of the high levels of calcium I started developing Kidney Stones, not something you will want to ever have to deal with in any situation. After talking to my doctor again, and my friends wife(who works in herbal medicines) I found the exact items I needed without the added calcium. Needless to say, Id rather have a hippy on hand, than random trial & error. Do you find this valuable? |
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DonovanRichter |
5. RE: Vitamins and Supplements
Sep 26 2010, 8:44 AM EDT
Good point LJ, =^_^= vitamin supplements may be necessary, might even be beneficial. I hear that if you're getting a lot of dietary vitamins then the pills absorb easier which makes sense (most vitamins and minerals require one another to absorb) So it would be good to include them just in case. They may have some benefit. Vitamin C is a perfect example. Its used in the production of collagen and other processes, not just maturing T-cells to keep your immune system strong. Getting it in a fruit devoid world where transportation no longer exists on large scale might be tough, especially since us in the northern areas only have some wild berries and apples which are too hard to come by for a steady vitamin C intake. Potatoes (where most get their vit C from) will go bad after awhile and canned fruits have little in the way of vit C due to peeling the things (Most of the nutrients are in the skin!!! =>_<= same for potatoes.) So where to get your vitamin C if fruit is not available? I don't know for every region but the Native Americans in my area practically lived off of Eastern White Pines. Needles can be eaten or (Much better yet) be made into a tea that they knew prevented and cured scurvy. =^_^= While you're at it, don't just chop down any tree for firewood, chop down one of these then fry up the inner bark and eat that! =^_^= I feel one can learn a lot about how to get their nutrition based on studying the native foodways of their geographic region =^_^= This is only one of many examples! Do you find this valuable? |
