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Jaggedrain
Jaggedrain
Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 1 2010, 4:30 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2010, 4:30 AM EDT
So how would you dead with someone who got infected or who came to your compound already infected?

In Carrie Ryan's YA zombie novel, The Forest of Hands and Teeth (Which I heartily recommend, btw) people who are infected are given a choice between being put to death or being put 'outside the fence' once they turn.
They have a complicated system of gates to ensure that a:the zombies cannot get into the village and b: the infected person is safe until he/she returns as a zombie.

So how would you deal with an infected person?

Killing them all before they turn is an easy solution but is going to cost you in morale in the long term.

Allowing them to turn and then putting the zombie down is almost as easy, and of course letting them go once they've turned might be described as suicidally stupid in certain circumstances.

Or would you give the infected person some food and water, point them in a direction and send them on their merry?
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TheSecondShooter
TheSecondShooter
1. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 1 2010, 7:31 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2010, 7:31 AM EDT
they have to be put down, its a simple as that. There is no reason to add to the zombie population, and you would feel stupid if you or a loved one got infected by an infected person that you released only to come back and bite you . Do you find this valuable?    
Knuxz
Knuxz
2. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 1 2010, 8:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2010, 8:07 AM EDT
Well if it were in the kind of establishment I hope to slowly make post-z-day, we'd have them in a secure room being studied. Otherwise, Either put the person in a device so the zombie of them can't get away, or find someone with so little respect for human life they could shoot said zombie. Do you find this valuable?    
casquis
casquis
3. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 1 2010, 8:24 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2010, 8:24 AM EDT
in the beginning, you wouldnt have the guts to do it, but after a few weeks or even a few days it would be like that.
infected stranger-shot in the head.
infected friend- shot in the head with lots of tears and moral pain
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Knuxz
Knuxz
4. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 1 2010, 7:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2010, 7:08 PM EDT
If i got bit, I would crank up the Metallica, and kiss my ass good bye doing all the drugs I claimed i wouldn't do in DARE, just to do something highly rebellious before i die. XD Well, not crack. I'm never touching crack. That **** will f-ck you up. Do you find this valuable?    
Red_Fog
Red_Fog
5. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 1 2010, 11:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2010, 11:08 PM EDT
Shrooms, LCD, exctasy, meth, those are all fine. But crack? Oh no, no, no. MUCH too serious, lol.

Crack makes you feel super awesome (for a bit), is 100x more super addictive and not at all good for you, but f-ck you up? Not so much. There are plenty of things much better for f-cking you up. If anything crack might just give you that extra "umph" to get out there, take some with ya and go out with a bang.

If you wanna get f-cked up and think your fingers are turning into snakes and crap like that, take some thing like acid or shrooms.

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<_<
>_>
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What?
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Knuxz
Knuxz
6. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 1 2010, 11:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2010, 11:28 PM EDT
Oh yea, remove the meth, would never do meth. And i've seen people on acid... It's freaking funny. Especially when the cops show. Do you find this valuable?    
TheSecondShooter
TheSecondShooter
7. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 1 2010, 11:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2010, 11:37 PM EDT
i think if it where me that got infected instead of waiting to turn or letting someone blow my brains out i would rather grab a baseball bat and go out and take as many out as i could until i got swarmed then pull the pin on a grenade and go out with a bang. Do you find this valuable?    
Knuxz
Knuxz
8. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 1 2010, 11:48 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 1 2010, 11:48 PM EDT
Good clean fun...
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Jahadaz
Jahadaz
9. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 12:06 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 12:06 AM EDT
It is probable that a bullet will end up being the solution. But the drugs got me thinking, maybe we could make it a little more humane (depending on how long it takes to turn of course) by letting the infected know what you are going to do and maybe find some form of drug that will ease that knowledge. A couple of Valium maybe? Do you find this valuable?    
DevilNuts
DevilNuts
10. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 12:07 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 12:07 AM EDT
"But crack? "
Hahaha you said "butt crack"

I wouldn't shoot someone unless they were already dead. Let said person spend their last few hours with whatever friends and family they have left, and die with the dignity and respect people deserve.

I have a sneaking suspicion that 99% of the tough guys around here who say they can shoot their loved ones in the face are full of sh*t.
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PedroAsani
PedroAsani
11. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 6:34 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 6:34 AM EDT
"I have a sneaking suspicion that 99% of the tough guys around here who say they can shoot their loved ones in the face are full of sh*t. "
You've never met my mother. :)
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Jaggedrain
Jaggedrain
12. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 6:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 6:52 AM EDT
@PedroAsani: Your mother can't be that bad. No way is she worse than mine.

@Jahadaz: I like your plan. Dope them till they're unconscious and then shoot them. But of course eventually you're going to run out of drugs unless you've been planting opium possies. Anyone know if a page on growing opium poppies and other medicinally useful plants that might be frowned upon by government would get me in trouble?

@Devilnuts: I don't even listen to the tough guys talk anymore. Me big strong man. Me shoot father in head no problem. Ugh! spare me. Your solution is the most humane but also very dangerous unless you know EXACTLY how long it will take to turn. Imagine sharing a last tearful hug with your dsad and suddenly he takes a chunk out of your neck...uncool.

I still like the idea of giving them a choice. They can choose to die before they turn or they can turn and then be shot.
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Knuxz
Knuxz
13. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 9:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 9:17 AM EDT
If I were all alone and going to turn, loud music, guns a blazin, explosives exploding. Wanna get some revenge before I die. But doing all that stuff is only if i know I'm gonna turn. Do you find this valuable?    
nate121
nate121
14. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 9:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 9:17 AM EDT
first they would write a will and give ant last requests and then i would give them a quiet room and a gun with one bullet, then we would have a fueneral afterwards Do you find this valuable?    
AlexHigginbotham
AlexHigginbotham
15. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 1:25 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 1:25 PM EDT
In the beginning when infection is still kind of a mystery, I would try and use recently infected as a study tool. Monitor everything and learn as much as you can about whats causing it.

After the infection symptoms and whatnot are understood with confidence, capable people can work on a cure. I for one have absolutely no idea how to do that kind of stuff, and considering most every day diseases are non curable, I doubt one would be found.

After you get all the info you can you have 2 options. If there is a cure, administer it. If there isn't, kill the host.
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Jaggedrain
Jaggedrain
16. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 3:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 3:46 PM EDT
@Alex: Your solution is very practical but I think that like the 'just shoot them' option, it's going to cost you in morale in the long run. It may seem like I'm very concerned about morale and I hate ot be quoting the ZSG - morale is VERY important. Do you find this valuable?    
Cypher9012
Cypher9012
17. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 4:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 4:16 PM EDT
Personlly I would allow the infected person to make up their own mind based ona set of common options established by the community or settlement. You ask everyone what their preference is and make sure that everyone has some idea of what everyone wants done should they become infected.

Personally if infected I want a 'Living Funeral'. I want too say goodbye, drink myself unconsciouss, then have the Community Security Personnel carry me out to the incenerator block, lie me where I'm going to be burned, and put "Two in the chest, One in the head" and then burn my ass.

Because if; 'BITTEN = DEAD' and you have a few days, people need to be understand that once bitten, you are 'Technically' Already Dead. It's the same as being poisoned, or having inoperable cancer, you ARE going to die, and you don't want to get up and hurt your friends and family do you?

If on the other hand it's a fast acting infection like the '28 Days Later' Rage Virus...don't think...just kill me fast and don't get any blood on yourself.
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Jackhorse
Jackhorse
18. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 4:38 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 4:38 PM EDT
Guns, ammo and grenades will be a valauble commodity after Z-Day any ideas for something to give an infected as a weapon before sending him out to go out fighting? Needs to be plentifull and the infected needs to be able to kill themselves with it (It would be very hard to beat your own brains out with a baseball bat). If such a weapon could be thought up I'm all in favor of Shooters idea. Do you find this valuable?    
Cypher9012
Cypher9012
19. RE: Dealing with Infected (not yet turned)
Apr 2 2010, 4:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 2 2010, 4:59 PM EDT
Problem with a grenade is, if you get swamped you may end up getting eaten to death before you get a chance to pull the pin on a grenade. Now I'm all for the "I'll take as many of you mother****** with me as I can so come get some! Mwuahahaha!!!" as the next guy, but what about choosing the old Japanese method of suicide and having a guy at hand to end your suffering quickly and decisively at a point you agree upon before hand.

What I mean by this is...I go out there with a studded baseball bat swinging for the fences, I'm wearing a very tight fitting 10L back pack which is then duct-taped to my body, and contains enough demolitions-grade explosive to spread me over 3 states...and my buddy on the wall is holding the radio-detonator and is under orders to 'Nuke Me' if I get too overwhelmed, or when there's enough on top of me to validate/justify the wastage of half-a-dozen sticks of TNT.

(But remember that TNT and Dynamite degrade over time until they become too hazardous to handle safely...so maybe using it in that way before it all becomes useless might be an option?)

Note: I get to say goodbye to everyone, and I get half a quart jar of moonshine or other strong spirit in me before i go XD XD XD
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